In this Sid Roth’s It’s Supernatural! Classic episode from 2000: Can people travel supernaturally? Ken Peters stepped into the invisible world and found himself in Rio de Janeiro.
Sid: Can people travel supernaturally?
My guest stepped into the invisible world
and found himself in Rio de Janeiro.
Next on this edition of It’s Supernatural!
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Sid: Hello. I’m Sid Roth your investigative
reporter here with Ken Peters.
Ken Peters as a young boy started having visions
and then at 21 had a dream in which he saw
the future of the world.
He saw things that did not even exist, and
all of a sudden, a few years later they came
into being.
And he didn’t know Jesus.
He came from a Catholic background.
He had never read the Bible.
And all of a sudden, things started happening.
For instance, his best friend had an experience
with Jesus and invited him to a church.
It was certainly nothing like the Catholic
Church he went to, was it, Ken?
Ken: No, Sid, it wasn’t.
Sid: What happened in this service?
Ken: Well I went into the service.
It was very much alive.
It wasn’t liturgical, so to speak.
It wasn’t reserved, which I was accustomed
to.
A lot of very vibrant music, the pastor was
preaching, you know, fervently from the Bible.
During the service I literally, in my heart,
I mocked it all.
I sat in the upper balcony of this church.
It was an old theater and mocked just about
everything I heard and saw.
And at the end of the service the pastor began
to pray and said that there was a young man
that was here today that God had put on his
heart, and he began to ask the people in the
church to pray, and they began to bow their
heads and pray.
And I was watching this from the balcony,
and you know, I began to think in my mind,
well who is this young man.
And then he began to share things about this
young man in his life, the direction he was
going, and he said that God was trying to
get your attention through a dream, he had
a plan for your life, he was going to use
you for his will.
And I began to ask myself, well who is this,
who is this, you know.
And probably about three or four times I asked,
you know, in my mind, who is this person he’s
describing?
For five or six, seven minutes, he kept doing
this and he kept describing my life.
And it was like I was dull at first.
I didn’t realize it was my life.
And then all of a sudden I asked again, who
is this that he’s talking about?
And I heard someone speak behind me, “It’s
you.”
Sid: Who spoke?
Ken: I thought at first it was the person
behind me.
So I turned to look and the person behind
me had their head bowed and, you know, they
were praying silently to them self.
And so I thought well maybe I’m hearing things.
So I asked again, who is this, and I heard
it again, “It’s you.”
Only this time I heard it clearly spoken to
me this way.
And so I said, “It’s me?”
And the voice said again, “It’s you.”
And then instantly after that third time I
realized this is the same voice that I heard
in the dream I had when I saw Jesus tell me
that death would never hold me.
The tone of his voice, it was the same voice.
And so I said, “It’s me?”
And then I became very emotional at that moment.
I wasn’t the kind of person that would cry.
I was a very strong individual and I became
very emotional, and something told me, I need
to go to the front of the church and talk
to this pastor.
So the next thing I know, I’m out of my seat,
running down this balcony and I’m at the front
of this church [cough] and, excuse me, he
asked me if I wanted to ask Jesus to be my
Lord and Savior, and to forgive me of my sins,
and I said, “Yes, yes, I do.”
And he filled me with his spirit, and at that
point I had a personal, intimate experience
with Jesus.
Sid: What did it feel like?
Ken: Oh Sid, it felt like all the years that
were troublesome in my life were lifted off me.
You know, it seemed like at that moment from
the time I had the visions as a little boy
up until the point when I didn’t it to happen
any more, from that point forward there was
weight on me.
There was just despair almost and I felt all
that lift off me.
I literally felt sins being lifted off me,
my wrongs, I felt them being taken from me.
Sid: Now you went on the strangest, strangest
trip.
Ken: Yes.
Sid: To another country.
Ken: Yes.
Sid: Tell me the circumstances of that.
Ken: Well I was staying in a parsonage at
a church and shortly after I accepted Jesus
as my savior, people began to ask me about
what was happening with me.
So I was at this church and staying in this
parsonage.
There was no power, no electricity, no heat
in the building.
It was very cold.
It was the winter.
And I was asleep and in the middle of the
night the room lit up.
It got very bright and I thought it must be
morning already.
Sid: No street lamp or something?
Ken: Well I thought it was sunrise because
it was so bright, you know.
Sid: Right.
Ken: And this bright light just shined in
the room, completely took the presence in
the room.
And I began to look, and I said, “Who’s there?”
And as soon as I said who’s there, the light
kind of peeled back so to speak, and there
was Jesus standing there with this light around
him, just brilliant, and he began to speak
to me, and told me that I would be a prophet,
and I didn’t understand what that meant.
Sid: You didn’t know what the word “prophet”
even meant?
Ken: Well maybe like a psychic or something,
you know, something that I heard about, you
know, maybe on television, but to have an
understanding of a prophet that God
would use, no, I really didn’t.
Sid: And incidentally, a psychic is not from
God.
Why?
Because the source is not God and because
God says, “I require accuracy”.
And psychics by their own admission are right
maybe 10 percent of the time.
I think I’m stretching a little bit.
Anyway, go on.
Ken: Well what happened was he began to show
me scriptures.
He took me to my Bible and showed me scriptures
that I was to follow with my life.
And then, I know this may sound silly, but
the next thing I realize is I’m standing on
a mountain in some, I believed in my mind,
a South American country, because I saw a
lot of people that looked South American,
maybe a Latin background, making a trek up
this mountain.
And at the top of the mountain was a huge
statue of Jesus with his arms stretched out.
And these people were climbing up this mountain.
It seemed to be hundreds and thousands.
Sid, there was a huge multitude of people
climbing this mountain.
And I was standing there with Jesus and he
was crying.
Tears were running down his face.
Sid: Why?
Ken: Well I asked him, I said, “Lord, why
were you crying?”
Because I thought these people were, you know,
progressing to meet him or something.
And he said, “If only my people would worship
me.”
And they were going to this image of him.
It was more of an image.
And then I realized that some of my own worship
in the past had been more to an image of God
than to God the Creator, you know.
And many years later, again, the reason I’m
so adamant about these dreams and visions,
many years later, I was watching television
and a television commercial came on, it was
an airline commercial and it was a big jet
airliner flying in the clouds, and all of
a sudden they panned on the jet, and it was
flying next to this huge statue of Jesus on
this mountain.
And I shouted to my wife, “That’s where I
was.”
And then down at the caption it said, “Rio
de Janeiro”.
And so he began to share with me things about
the end and what would begin to happen.
Sid: I’ll tell you what, hold that thought.
I want to find out what’s going to happen
in the end of days.
Don’t you?
We’ll be right back after this.
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Sid: Hello.
I’m Sid Roth your investigative reporter and
I’m having a good time here with Ken Peters
because we found out he literally was transported,
didn’t even buy an airplane ticket, I mean
supernaturally transported from one country
to another.
He found himself, he wasn’t sure where it
was, but he saw things going on and he saw
a specific mountain.
And then many years later, he’s watching television
and he sees that mountain.
Where was that at?
Ken: That was Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
Sid: That’s a pretty exciting thing to be
translated from one country to another.
Ken: Sid, I was in a room where the Lord’s
presence was and then the next thing I know
I’m gone and I’m in another nation.
And I knew it was another place because of
the people, you know, the looks of the people.
Sid: Well has this ever happened after that
to you?
Ken: One other time, actually.
It was a very strange event.
We were trying to get to a meeting place and
a Jewish minister was going to be ministering,
and I wanted to get there to get prayer from
him, because I had seen that he had worked
with miracles.
There had been a lot of miracles in his ministry.
And so I felt like if I could get to that
meeting I could get prayer, you know, because
those were some of the things that I felt
God had shown me that I would be part of were
miracles.
And so we were driving, and a gentleman had
brought his mother, and she was an invalid.
It was very difficult getting her and out
of the car.
We ended up getting out of town late.
We had to drive about two and a half hours.
We should have gotten there about 30 to 40
minutes late and we got there 20 minutes early,
and we never broke the speed limit, ever.
Sid: So you feel that God just transported
you.
He was speeding up time.
Ken: Yes.
Sid: I think he was compacting time.
Ken: Yes.
Sid: In fact, a prophet told me that that’s
what’s going on right now in this world, that
time is being compressed.
Ken: Yes.
Sid: I don’t know whether it’s because of
this grey hair or whether it’s really happening.
But I don’t know, time just, you blink your
eyes and a year passes by.
Do you feel the same way?
You don’t have as much grey hair.
You don’t have any grey hair.
Ken: A few
Sid: A few.
Ken: I feel that way, Sid, because Jesus himself
said that he would shorten time for the elect’s sake.
Sid: Now tell me some specific things that
God has shown you about people, places.
Ken: Well some specifics about the United
States were that there was a period of time
that God was allowing us to continue the way
we were.
We’ve fallen into decay.
We’ve fallen into places of debauchery, literally.
Just we’ve lost every standard that we once
held dear.
So he spoke to me and said that we have a
timeline until 2003.
Sid: That’s not very far.
Ken: No, that’s three years.
And he said to me that by 2003, if there wasn’t
a repentance in people’s hearts and a changing
of going back to the ways of God, that our
nation would be considered a goat nation rather
than a sheep nation.
Sid: What does that mean to you?
Ken: It means to me that goats are those that
were sent away, but the sheep were called
into the presence of God forever.
Sid: That’s a pretty scary thought.
Ken: It is.
Sid: Which way is it going to go, do you know?
Ken: No, I don’t know.
I don’t know which way it’s going to go because
I believe it’s contingent, again, upon our response.
Remember Jonah the prophet?
Sid: Right.
Ken: He had a word that God gave and he said
to, “Tell Nineveh I will destroy it in 40 days.”
There was no conditions.
But Nineveh responded to God.
It says, even the animals fasted.
The people fasted, remember?
They repented.
And so I believe if we change our mindsets
then we will be held in the balances of the
Lord favorably.
Sid: You know, I’m intrigued by your gift.
Tell me how it actually operates.
Do you hear a voice inside of you say something
and then you say it out loud?
Do you see things?
How does this work?
Ken: Several ways, Sid.
The first you described, there’s times I do
hear a voice.
There’s times I hear a strong voice speaking
to me that a certain thing will happen or
to share a certain thing with an individual.
But many times it’s through prayer, you know,
communion with God, communicating to him on
a daily basis that he’ll begin to speak to
me about issues.
But yes, then there’s times there’s dreams,
visions.
Sometimes there’s just a strong knowing, Sid.
You almost know that something is going to
happen and you can’t really say.
Sid: Okay. In the break, you said, “God just
showed me something for you.”
Did you hear this?
Did you know this?
Ken: I saw a picture of when I told you about
that, an instance of a benefactor coming to
you, someone that’s going to enhance your
ministry financially so you can accomplish
God’s will.
What I saw was a picture and I saw a gentleman
walking up to you with a briefcase and saying
to you, “There’s more than enough to accomplish
what God has called you to accomplish.”
Something that’s being spoken into my spirit
right now is that you have a great vision.
You have a deep vision in your heart, big
vision.
You’re like Abraham.
You’re seeing the stars and God is challenging
you to count those stars and he’s telling
me that in your heart stars are representations
of people groups and nations that you will
affect, especially Jewish people groups.
And he’s going to bring to you everything
that’s necessary to reach them.
I keep thinking of how Abraham was given favor
by God and how he was allowed to overthrow kings.
You remember?
And how there was a priest that came to him
and Abraham presented an offering to him,
and God considered that pleasing to him.
I sense, Sid that God is saying that what
you’ve been offering to God has been pleasing
him.
Also he tells me to tell you this, that you’ve
almost felt like there’s a little holding
back, a little bit of maybe the timing hasn’t
been right or there’s just a slight resistance,
so to speak, like maybe just a kind of a nudge
to hold you a second.
But I hear the Lord saying that he says, “My
son, the nudge is being lifted off and the
restraint is being lifted off for you to go
forward.”
One other thing, I’m just going to drop this.
I feel like I have permission to release this,
that you’re going to be well pleased and favored
highly with what you see your children accomplish
for the world.
Sid: That is, I really like that, especially
since I know prophetic words you’ve spoken
that have come to pass.
For instance, you talked to another person
about money.
Tell me about that, that he was going to receive
money.
Ken: Oh, yes. Well…
There’s many times that God will speak to
me about individuals receiving finances.
And some people say, well it’s, you know,
does God put money on trees?
I don’t believe he puts money on trees.
But I do believe that he will give you an
opportunity to fulfill his will.
There’s been times that the Lord said that
a church was going to receive a piece of property
free and clear, and those things have happened,
just numerous, numerous occasions.
Sid: Ken, have you missed it much?
Have you said words that haven’t come true?
Ken: You know, Sid, there was one word that
I gave about 12 years ago that didn’t come
to pass when I saw it coming to pass, but
came to pass later on.
Sid: Outside of that?
Ken: I’m sure I have.
But to have someone come and tell me that
you said this would happen and it didn’t happen,
not yet.
Now that doesn’t mean I can’t.
Sid: Okay.
I’m going to ask him to be so open to the
Spirit of God.
I believe that God, God just told me something.
Someone with a neck problem has just been
healed and I believe some wonderful things
are going to happen when we come back.
Be right back.
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How about you, are you curious about who our
guest is going to be next week?
I am.
Let’s go to the control room.
Janie, who’s on for next week?
Janie: We’re going to speak to a man named
Owens Edge and he didn’t believe in God, but
he prayed, if God was real in a drought then
prove it.
Well it rained only on his house.
A few years ago, all of, then he believed
in God, and then a few years ago, all these
miracles started happening.
And a lady was brought to a meeting of his,
and she was just on the floor, and he thought
he didn’t really know what was wrong with
her.
But then all of a sudden, she got up and she’s
screaming, and everyone is screaming.
He found out later what was wrong with her.
Guess what was wrong with her?
Sid: I can’t guess. What?
Janie: She was brought to that meeting by
her children because she was dead.
Sid: Dead?
Janie: Dead.
Sid: Dead.
Wow.
She was brought to the meeting because she
was dead.
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Sid: Now Ken, just to build the faith a little
bit more, God has shown you things about people
in the past.
Let’s take one specific person, you don’t
have to use their name, that God has shown
you and what has happened.
Ken: Well thinking of a situation with healing,
the Lord showed me a woman and she was in
the back row of a meeting, and he said, “This
woman was stricken with MS and I want to heal
her, and I want to heal her right now.”
I was, you know, a little fearful.
Sid: So what do you do when you get a word
like this?
Do you go forward and say, can I have a microphone?
Ken: There’s times I have, yes.
Sid: What did you do in this case?
Ken: Well in this case, what I did, I said
to myself, I said to the Lord, “Well Lord,
if this is you will you please show me and
show me somehow that this is you telling me
this.”
About three or four minutes later this woman
came up to me and said, “That lady in the
back of the church, the Lord just told me
to tell you that you need to pray for her,
that he wants to heal her of some disease.”
Sid: Something is going on right now.
Ken: Yes.
Sid: Was she healed?
Ken: She was healed instantly.
Sid: But something is going on right now,
right now, it’s going on, on this set.
There’s like the presence of God is, it’s
almost like a river and it’s getting deeper
and deeper.
What does God want to do right now?
Ken: I believe God wants to heal physically.
Sid: Me, too.
Ken: I believe he also wants to heal barren
wombs.
Sid: Really?
Ken: Yes.
Couples that have been contending to have children.
What I saw was people crying and grieving
because they felt they had done something
wrong and God wasn’t going to give them children
because they were being punished.
Sid: Maybe, and God is not telling you this,
I’m speculating, but I really believe there
are some women that have had abortions and
feel that such shame over this that they don’t
even deserve to have another child.
The truth of the matter is abortion is murder.
However, the truth of the situation is Jesus,
he’s the truth, and he says if you’ll confess
your sin, he’s just and faithful, to just
wash it away and make you righteous and right
in relationship with him.
Besides barrenness, is there any other areas
that God wants to heal?
Ken: Yes there is?
I just had something come to me very strongly
as you were saying that Sid, about that situation,
that there’s been people that have known God
and have lost everything in their businesses
or in their employment have lost everything,
literally, went into bankruptcy, lost it all,
and felt as though God was punishing them
and that this is their time now to be restored.
This is a season of restoration.
One other thing that I’m hearing strongly
that’s supposed to happen is that the Lord
wants his people to hear his voice.
It’s not a special thing for myself or you.
It’s for all of God’s people.
And there was a prophecy in the Bible that
said in the last days his people would prophesy.
They would hear his voice.
And so there’s people right now that if they
will reach out to God that he will cause them
to hear his voice.
Sid: How do they reach out?
Ken: Just with their hearts, just by saying,
God, I want to hear you clearly.
I want you to speak to me in a way that I
can hear clearly and know it’s you speaking
to me.
Sid: Is that going to happen right now if
they reach out, right this moment if they
reach out?
Ken: Right this moment if reach out.
Sid: Well then I suggest you do that right
this moment.
Are you interested in hearing God’s voice?
I mean like, I heard the same condition again
that I did before.
Someone’s neck has just been healed and in
the head there are, there’s like something,
anything you need in the head area, if there’s
like a migraine it’s gone.
If you have a back problem you are healed.
By the way, I’m not speculating, I’m hearing
this.
And you can hear this, too.
If you reach out and say, God, I make Jesus
my Messiah and Lord, please forgive me of
all of my sins, I want to hear your voice.
Do you know there is no greater thrill, there
is no greater position to be in than to hear
God’s voice.
I mean, the person whose neck was just healed,
I believe you’re also having your ears healed.
You’re able to hear God’s voice.
Ken, is God telling you anything more?
Ken: Yes.
I’m getting one more thing about an individual
named Martha and that if Martha will not look
back any longer, Martha struggled, Martha
had some very, very shameful things that she
wished she hadn’t been a part of, that Jesus
has forgiven.
And he says to her, “Don’t look back, but
go forward because there’s joy.”
And there’s a river that she’s going to come
into, a river of joy.
It’s going to be a place where the river is
moving slowly and sweeping her along slowly
into joy.
Sid: Martha, that sounds pretty good to me.
But I’ll tell you what God is showing me right
now.
There is such an anointing for healing that
I want you to take your hand and put it on
the part of your body that needs healing,
whether it’s your back or your neck, or your
head, or your nose, whatever, and say, I’m
going to pray right now, in Jesus’ name,
I command healing in your body.
I command the spirit of infirmity to leave.
I thank you that by your stripes, Almighty
God, they were healed.
The greatest healing of all is for you to
know God.
Reach out right now and say, God, I want to
know you.
I must know you.
I’m desperate to know you.
There’s nothing else this world has to offer.
I pray that you forgive me of my sins.
I pray that the blood of Jesus washes them
away and now come inside of me, Lord Jesus.
Take over my life.
I make you Lord of my life.
Amen.
And now you don’t even have to be Martha,
you can start rejoicing because there’s peace!
Shalom!
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