David Hernandez became friends with the Holy Spirit at 13. He’s 27 now and says the most important thing you can do is be friends with the Spirit of the Living God. Better than that, he can help you do it.
Is there a supernatural
dimension?
a world beyond the one we know?
Is there life after death?
Do angels exist?
Can our dreams contain messages
from Heaven?
Can we tap into ancient secrets
of the supernatural?
Are healing miracles real?
Sid Roth has spent over 35 years
researching the strange world of
the supernatural.
Join Sid for this edition of
It’s Supernatural.
Sid: Hello. Sid Roth here.
Welcome to my world where it’s
naturally supernatural.
As a young Jewish believer in
the Messiah, I came to know a
woman that walked in one of the
greatest miracle ministries I
ever saw.
Her name, Kathryn Kuhlman and
she used to say, “Please don’t
grieve the Holy Spirit.
He’s all that I have.” My next
guest started a genuine
friendship with the Holy Spirit
at 13.
He’s 27 now and he says the most
important thing of the hour is
for you to have a friendship
with the Spirit of the Living
God and he would like to help
you develop this.
I want this.
Do you?
Now I’ve been really looking
forward to interviewing my guest
David Hernandez because of the
relationship he has with the
Holy Spirit and everyone is
supposed to have this type of a
relationship.
But your family was sabotaged
generations ago with the occult
and how did they get free?
David: Well they got free when
my grandparents were filled with
the Holy Spirit.
And my grandparents actually
attended a church that looked
down upon people who had the
infilling of the Holy Spirit.
So they get kicked out of their
church and they go find a church
plant locally that was actually
enabling them to move in those
gifts, but it was since that
moment that they were filled
with the Holy Spirit that the
things that the enemy had tried
to do, because you know, even if
you break something he tries to
get back in.
The scripture talks about how
demons return.
And so in my family those things
that tried to come back in even
all the way down to me, on the
other flip side of that is when
my family is filled with the
Holy Spirit, as is true of any
believer, we experienced the
supernatural in our lives.
Sid: And at 11, you got born
again and you had an encounter
in which the Lord showed you
your future.
Tell me about that.
David: Well when I was 11 years
old, that’s when I gave my heart
to Jesus and when I say I gave
it to him, I truly do mean that
I understood the ramifications
of that commitment and whole
heartedly I said, “Lord, I am in
and I just want you.” And when I
did that the Lord showed me that
he would use me in ministry he
showed me not just the ministry,
the type of ministry I would be
in, but the Lord also showed me
which, funny enough, the
administrative, the back end,
the different steps it would
take logistically and
practically, and that happened
after I prayed, Lord, I read it
in James here, where it says,
“If any of you lack wisdom.” I
was 11, so I needed some wisdom
if I was going to do anything.
Sid: Well as a 75-year-old, I
know I need some wisdom.
David: So at 11 years old, I
said, “Lord, I’m going to stand
on this with childlike faith.” I
said, “Lord, I believe that I
can have that.” And it was
almost like I just knew the
information, just a download.
And even to this day, now I’m
27, been in the ministry
officially since 13, but even to
this day we’re still living out
that plan that I received when I
was 11.
So I said, “Okay Lord, after
these next couple of steps
you’re going to have to show me
another download because we need
to know the next step of the
way.
Sid: Well you know, at age 13,
he starts preaching the Gospel.
He has such a close intimacy
with God, such a close intimacy
with the Spirit of the Living
God.
But then panic set in.
Guess what happened?
All of a sudden that presence
lifted.
What did you think?
David: At first I thought, Lord,
did I do something to offend
you?
Did I say something?
Was I preaching something that
wasn’t necessarily scriptural?
And so as you can imagine, I
became very fearful.
I started panicking, like you
said.
I said, “Lord, I was enjoying
just this beautiful fellowship
with you.” And I felt there was
this flow spiritually and
something just blocked it and
disrupted that flow.” And so I
said, “Lord, I have to
understand what’s happening
here.” And so I just pressed in
further and I determined within
me and I said, “There’s got to
be more.” Because I know that
I’ve walked with Jesus, but I
feel as though I’m missing
something.
And I’m looking back now.
The Lord had withdrawn not
because of anything that I had
done, and when I say he
withdrew, he didn’t do so
literally, he did so in relation
to my emotions.
I learned that when God
seemingly withdraws he’s not
doing it to push you away.
He’s doing it to draw you
closer.
Sid: Now did you literally lock
yourself in the room and say,
“God, if you don’t come here I’m
not going out.” Did you really?
David: I went in and I made that
ultimatum and I said “Lord,
until I receive something fresh
from Heaven, I’m not leaving
here.
You need to touch me.” And so I
remember on my face was pressed
into the carpet, the carpet
became tear-drenched.
I was praying with so much
passion that I remember even
tensing my whole body and
everything in me just hungered
for the presence of Jesus.
And I said, “Lord, I can’t leave
this place until you touch me.
I’m not leaving this place until
something from Heaven comes in
here.” And I remember I was just
praying for several hours, about
four hours in that moment, and
then something amazing happened.
And what had happened in that
moment was looking back now what
is called the baptism of the
Holy Spirit.
I didn’t speak in tongues at
that point, but I received what
I call a flood from within.
You see, at salvation you
receive the Holy Spirit, but at
baptism you release him.
You receive him into the rest of
your being.
Jesus said, “Out of your belly
shall flow rivers of living
water.” So the scripture talks
about that river being deep
within.
That flood touches from the
spirit and it goes from the
inside out so that the baptism
of the Holy Spirit, you can
receive him, even though, people
ask, well I already have the
Holy Spirit.
How do I receive him a second
time?
You received him in your spirit
the first time when you got
saved, but he overflows the rest
of your being at baptism.
They say, Lord, I want more of
your presence.
That’s not the point.
The point of baptism is not you
getting more of God, it’s him
getting more of you.
And when he is released from
deep within he begins to
overflow and that’s what
happened to me.
I felt just this, I felt like I
was living in a little piece of
Heaven on Earth in my room.
The ordinary plain surroundings
of my room changed dramatically,
not visually, but the sense of
his presence was so strong I
remember I felt like this heat
descend on my body, like
currents of electricity moving
up and down.
I’m crying, I’m praying, I’m
worshiping, and I close my eyes.
My eyes were closed at that time
and I said, I remember Jesus had
become so real, the Holy Spirit
had revealed him with such
intensity that I felt if I move
my hand I might feel it brush up
against his robe.
I was frozen.
I didn’t want to move because I
didn’t want to disrupt what was
happening and that real
experience was the well I still
draw from today.
Sid: But that sparked you to
even more passionately have
intimacy with God.
You would spend hours and hours
seeking God.
Tell me about that.
David: Well I mean, even seeking
out mentors and even seeking, I
would go to the conferences, I
would read the books and I would
spend my time in prayer, spend
my time in the Word, so much so
that when I would read the Word
my Bible started falling apart.
I heard this old quote that
says, “A Bible that’s falling
apart usually belongs to a
believer who isn’t.” And so I’m
looking at this and I remember
just reading it, and when I read
it I wasn’t, I’m younger, so it
wasn’t in my mind I want to
preach a sermon or I want to get
a revelation.
It was simply, Jesus, I want to
see another facet of who you
are.
And seeking the Word who is
Jesus, as I read it from
Scripture, the Holy Spirit would
take that Word and bring it to
life.
And I sensed the drawing, I
sensed the closeness.
The more time I spent, the
scripture describes that “we’re
changed as we behold him.” You
know, there’s not too much work
to it, but we do work toward
holiness and we do enact
disciplines that cause us to
walk the way God wants us to
walk.
The truth is that there’s not
much you can do to transform
yourself.
But it was in the presence of
Jesus that I received the
transformation.
Acts, Chapter 4 talks about how
the Pharisees and the Sadducees
knew the disciples had been with
Jesus because of the time they
spent with him.
And so the presence of God will
transform you.
And as you spend time looking
and gazing into the lovely
countenance of Christ, the
majestic, beautiful countenance
of the Son of the Living God,
you’re looking in the scripture
and you’re being transformed as
you’re looking into the Word.
You’re being changed into his
image.
You’re becoming more like Jesus.
For every moment you spend in
his presence, you’re becoming
more like him.
You’re being transformed to be
more like Jesus.
Sid: Now speaking about being
more like him, he starts going
to school and this fountain of
God’s presence starts coming out
of him on all of the students.
When we come back I want to find
out what happened at school.
We’ll be right back to
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Sid: So David, you
received the baptism of the Holy
Spirit, but you just didn’t
manifest speaking in tongues.
But one day you go up to the
altar and what happened?
David: So I’m at the altar to
see an evangelist had come to
our church.
He’s praying and he talked about
this gift of speaking in
tongues.
Now I understand that that’s the
flood overflowing and touching
the mouth.
And I said, “Lord, I want that
gift because I know that if I
can operate in that gift I can
more clearly hear your voice, I
can be drawn close to you.
It will advance the prayer life
force.
And you know how they do rows
behind the different prayer
people, and so we had two rows.
I’m in behind one very tall
gentleman who had a sleeve that
was hanging off of his elbow.
And he’s so tall that when he’s
rocking back and forth, every
time he walks back his sleeve
keeps tapping me on the
forehead.
Sid: That’s pretty annoying.
David: It was very annoying.
So I’m praying and I remember I
just kept feeling his sleeve
touching my forehead.
But I was so hungry for the
presence of God that I said, I’m
not going to move because I want
the evangelist to lay hands on
me.
So I’m standing there and my
hands are lifted, and I’m
saying, “Okay Lord, I’m ready to
receive all that you have for
me.
I’ll surrender to the gift once
I receive it.” And the
evangelist, I didn’t know at
that moment was laying hands on
the tall man who kept annoying
me with his sleeve.
And so when the evangelist
touches that man, this time when
the sleeve came back and hit me
I felt a jolt of electricity
shoot through my body.
So it moved through the pastor,
through that man, through his
anointed sleeve and it touched
me on the head, and I felt it.
And I remember it’s like
something just broke loose, and
I start praying in the Holy
Ghost, and I mean I was praying
loud in the Holy Ghost.
People were looking at me and I
was surprised that I was praying
in the Holy Spirit with that
much passion I had.
It was like this is it.
This is what I’ve been praying
for.
And that led to several other
things in the ministry.
Sid: Tell me about what goes on
with someone your age that is so
passionate about God, so filled
with the Spirit of God, so
yielded to the Holy Spirit.
Tell me what was going on with
you in school.
David: Well as you know, all
true ministries are birthed out
of a love for Jesus, cultivated
in the secret places of prayer.
Private prayer is always
revealed in public power.
And there was an overflow that
started to happen and I got
excited.
You know, when you’re filled
with the Holy Spirit you don’t
have to try to work yourself up
to evangelize or work yourself
up to worship.
Everything in you has to do to
subdue it.
You’re saying, okay, I might be
getting a little carried away
with this because it’s so
natural.
And the Holy Spirit’s
friendship, because I started
spending time with him,
everywhere I go now I’m aware of
the fact that he’s with me, even
at school.
And so I start telling people
about Jesus and it got to the
point where at lunch, kids would
start to come to just hear about
Jesus and I would start praying
with them.
We saw people get healed of
psoriasis.
We saw people take off their
glasses, able to be healed and
see.
We saw people with broken bones
be healed, swollen ankles that
would go down right in front of
everybody.
Sid: Would they mock you?
David: There was one, yes,
especially who I remember would
mock us.
And one of the things that
manifested in that place is as
people would come to the group
there were a couple of times
where people didn’t know what
they were walking into.
They just kind of saw people
gathered.
And as they would approach the
Glory was so manifested on the
place where we were praying that
kids would have trouble standing
as they approach the prayer
place and not even know why.
And so I had one guy, he had his
arms folded, he’s watching.
I’m talking to somebody.
I’m saying, “Okay, we’re going
to believe God.
We’re going to believe for your
healing.” I said, “Repeat after
me.” I’m praying, as I’m praying
for him, I hear him behind me
saying, “This is fake.
He’s using psychology.
He’s using power of suggestion.”
And I wasn’t angry.
I wanted to try to explain that
this was the real deal.
This was the power of God.
So I turn.
I remember I had my, held my
hand out like this.
I turned to go to tell him about
what God was doing and the
moment I turned to talk to him,
he goes out under the power.
And he gets up.
This was so funny.
He gets up and he goes, “I don’t
believe that.
I don’t believe that.
I don’t believe that.” I said,
“It just happened to you.
What do you mean you don’t
believe that?” So the Glory of
God hit him and he, I mean, I
think it was just a matter of
months later he’s at our church
now at the altar praying.
He had been giving his heart to
Jesus.
It was because of the Glory of
God.
It was because of that
friendship that overflowed and
manifested into everyday life.
Sid: David, you’re a forerunner.
What you just heard David say,
it’s going to happen in schools
all over the world.
It’s going to happen in colleges
all over the world.
I’m telling you we’re about
ready to see such an explosion
of the Holy Spirit.
You use the term “glory”.
What does the word glory mean to
you and explain that a little.
David: Well the Glory is the
full weight of the person of
Jesus.
You know, John, Chapter 1, Verse
1, it says, “In the beginning
was the Word and the Word was
God.” Jump down to Verse 14 and
it describes it.
“He was the Glory of God.
He was full of grace and truth.”
And Jesus is the, see, we use
terms sometimes, and I know I
used to think this way and the
Lord helped me with it, we use
terms like “glory” and “the Holy
Spirit”.
And in our minds we imagine it
to be some type of esoteric
force or some type of power, or
substance, when in reality it is
the very person.
So when I talk about the Glory
I’m talking about walking in an
awareness and you can walk in an
awareness 24/7.
This isn’t just for me.
This isn’t just for Sid Roth.
This is for everybody.
This is the way the early church
did it where they walked in an
awareness of Jesus to where he
was able to touch people any
time of any day because they
were surrendered and yielding to
his voice because of that
awareness.
I like to say that the only
distance that can exist between
the believer and the Holy Spirit
is their unawareness of his
presence.
It’s only because we’re unaware
of what God is doing that we are
able to participate in it.
Often people will say, oh we
prayed and we worshiped, and the
Glory of God came down.
It’s not that the Glory of God
comes down, it’s that we become
aware of the Glory that is
already there.
And when we walk in that Glory,
when we walk in that awareness
of the Glory of God 24/7, what
begins to happen is we begin to
see opportunities that would
otherwise have been missed
because we think in a mentality
where God is far from us.
The scripture says he’s not far
from any of us.
He’s near to us.
He’s just a whisper away.
And if you feel like you’ve
fallen away from that, as far as
you think you’ve run, a single
moment of repentance can cover
that entire distance and bring
you all the way back home,
because he’s the one who’s
interested in connecting with
us.
Sid: So there are people
watching us right now, you’re
watching us and you feel very
distant from God.
There is no one like our God, no
one.
There is nothing impossible.
There is no one that has gotten
too far away from God.
I want you to lead someone to
Jesus that’s watching right now.
Would you do that?
David: Yes.
So in this moment now, say, Dear
Jesus.
Sid: Dear Jesus.
David: I come before you now.
Sid: I come before you now.
David: And I put my trust in
you.
Sid: And I put my trust in you.
David: I turn from this world.
Sid: I turn from this world.
David: And I turn to you.
Sid: And I turn to you.
David: Forgive me.
Sid: Forgive me.
David: Save me.
Sid: Save me.
David: I believe.
Sid: I believe.
David: You are the Son of God.
Sid: You are the Son of God.
David: I believe.
Sid: I believe.
David: You rose from the dead.
Sid: You rose from the dead.
David: And I believe.
Sid: And I believe.
David: That you’re saving me
now.
Sid: That you’re saving me now.
David: In Jesus’ name.
Now I want to pray for you to
receive the, all you have to do,
just right where you are, just
lift your hands and receive all
that God has.
So Father, you said that if we
would ask we would receive and
you being the good Father, Lord,
if we ask for bread you’re not
going to give us stone.
So Father, I pray in Jesus’ name
that Jesus the baptizer will
pour out his Holy Spirit on that
one who is receiving it now, for
that one watching who’s saying I
want that.
Lord, I pray for an infilling
with power right now in Jesus’
name.
Amen.
Now you may say I didn’t feel
anything.
Some of you did feel something.
But whether or not you felt
something is not the issue.
The issue was that God keeps his
promises and if you ask for the
Holy Spirit and you trusted that
God would give it to you, no
matter what you felt if you did
praise God, if you didn’t, I
want to encourage you, you
received it.
Just allow that river to flow
from in to out.
Sid: I know something.
I know when we come back there
are going to be words of
knowledge released.
I know there’s going to be major
healings.
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Sid: You know what I think is so
amazing, you talk about Peter’s
shadow.
I believe that when you pray for
people the shadow or the Glory
of God falls on them.
And the same thing that people
were healed under Peter’s
shadow, tell me about what you
see in Peter’s shadow.
David: Well what I saw when I
was reading that scripture about
Peter’s shadow is I noticed that
the Bible doesn’t actually say
that the people were healed
because of Peter’s shadow.
The Bible says that, “People
brought their sick that his
shadow might fall upon them.” In
other words, the people had it
in their minds that if his
shadow can just touch them they
could be healed.
And I thought, what would give
rise to such a belief, to such
an odd belief that a shadow
could heal someone.
Well it wasn’t that Peter’s
shadow was healing anyone.
It’s that the healing presence
of Jesus was so heavy upon his
life that everywhere he walked
miracles happened by him just
being there.
And I believe believers can step
into that.
That was one of the things I
prayed for about the gift of
healing was that gift.
But then I realized that there’s
the gift that God places on
certain individuals, as we talk
about in First Corinthians 12.
But then, according to Mark 16,
every believer is to flow in
this operation and every
believer is to walk in the
healing presence of Jesus.
And when the healing presence of
Jesus comes on our life you’re
going to see miracles and
there’s not going to be really
so much effort that you have to
put into it.
You just have to believe.
Sid: I’m going to start right
now.
God has told me several times
there are people with pain in
your neck.
If you move your head if you
have pain, you’ll see that that
pain is gone and backs are being
healed right now.
Anything wrong with your back, I
would like you to pray as the
Holy Spirit directs right now.
David: So I want to pray if
you’re believing for a miracle,
I believe that the Holy Spirit
could make the Jesus the healer
more real than anything you’ve
ever experienced, and that’s
really the key.
When the Holy Spirit takes a
revelation from the Word and
causes it to become something
that becomes a reality for you,
everything changes.
He’s going to cause Jesus to
become so real to you right now,
right where you’re watching
this, wherever you’re watching
this, your whole atmosphere is
about to shift.
And when Jesus becomes more real
than your sickness, you’re going
to notice that your sickness
goes.
So let’s believe God for, first
of all, the presence.
Sid: Now that’s a very different
way of praying, I want to tell
you, but I love it.
Go ahead.
David: I’m going to pray right
now that the healing presence of
Jesus would fill that room where
you are.
So precious Lord, we know you
are faithful to your Word and we
know that it is by the Holy
Spirit that you establish your
dominion.
So in the name, there is
somebody watching me right now,
there is a skin disorder that
has just been healed.
You noticed there’s been a skin
disorder all up your left arm
like a rash of some sort.
If you’ll look now you’re going
to notice that the rash or
psoriasis is completely gone in
Jesus’ name.
Lord, we thank you for that.
Jesus, we give you the Glory.
Come on, let’s believe and pray
right now in Jesus’ name.
Father, I thank you for your
Holy Spirit’s presence now
flowing.
Lord, I rebuke sickness right
now in Jesus’ name.
I rebuke heart disease in Jesus’
name.
Lord, we come against arthritis
in Jesus’ name.
I rebuke cancer right now in the
name of the Living God.
In the name of Jesus we come
against and we break the back of
the enemy right now and we
destroy the works of the devil.
And Father, I pray that that
atmosphere of faith would be
electrified right where they are
in Jesus’ name.
Lord, let your presence become
so intense, so real that they
not only get a sense of you, but
that it be done in their body.
In the precious name of Jesus we
pray.
Amen.
Sid: Amen.
I pray that you cultivate
friendship with the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit’s purpose is to
make Jesus so real, as David
prayed that the reality of Jesus
is stronger than any problem in
your life.
I pray in Jesus’ name you become
a friend of the Holy Spirit.
Sid: Next week on It’s
Supernatural.
My guest had cancer three times.
He went to Oral Roberts.
Oral prayed for him.
His cancer went away, but he got
something new, the supernatural
gift of faith and he wants to
impart that to you.
Anyone want it?