In this It’s Supernatural! Classic episode from 1999: Francina Norman was raised in the ghetto, but her life took a royal change in the road when she heard the audible voice of God as she was caught up into Heaven.
SID: FRANCINA NORMAN WAS
RAISED IN THE GHETTO.
BUT HER LIFE TOOK A ROYAL
CHANGE IN THE ROAD WHEN
SHE HEARD THE AUDIBLE
VOICE OF GOD,
CAUGHT UP INTO HEAVEN ON
THIS EDITION OF IT’S
SUPERNATURAL.
[MUSIC♪] LIFE AFTER DEATH
EXPERIENCES AND ANGELIC
COMMUNICATIONS ARE ON THE
INCREASE.
TERMINALLY ILL PATIENTS
WHOM DOCTORS HAVE GIVEN NO
HOPE ARE UNEXPLAINABLY
CURED.
PEOPLE ARE BEING
MYSTERIOUSLY PROTECTED
FROM NATURAL DISASTERS.
SID ROTH, YOUR
INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER,
EXAMINES THIS INVISIBLE
WORLD ON IT’S
SUPERNATURAL.
SID: HELLO.
I’M SID ROTH YOUR
INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER AND
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE
ASTHMA AND WHAT WAS IT,
FRANCINA NORMAN, YOUR
GRANDMOTHER TOOK YOU TO A
TENT MEETING OF AN
EVANGELIST?
FRANCINA: IT WAS ACTUALLY
A NEIGHBOR.
SID: A NEIGHBOR?
FRANCINA: YES.
SID: AND YOU DIDN’T KNOW
WHAT WAS GOING ON REALLY.
FRANCINA: NO.
SID: AND WHAT HAPPENED?
FRANCINA: WELL I WAS IN
AND OUT OF THE HOSPITAL
EVERY HOLIDAY BECAUSE I
SUFFERED FROM ASTHMA,
ANYTIME I GOT EXCITED.
AND THE LADY, THE NEIGHBOR
ACROSS THE STREET WHO WAS
PENTECOSTAL BECAUSE MY
PARENTS,
THEY WERE NOT, THEY WERE
NOT REGULAR ATTENDEES OF
CHURCH, AND SHE SAID, “IíM
GOING TO TAKE YOU TO A
REVIVAL.”
AND I HAD NO IDEA WHO I
WAS GOING TO.
AND SO WHEN SHE TOOK ME TO
THE REVIVAL,
I WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD, THE
PLACE,
IT WAS PACKED, THOUSANDS
AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
AND SO YOU HAD TO GO
THROUGH THE PRAYER LINE.
THERE WAS A LOT OF ELDERS.
SID: NOW THIS WAS, YOU
DIDN’T KNOW IT AT THE TIME.
FRANCINA: NO.
SID: BUT THIS WAS A. A. ALLEN
FRANCINA: YES.
SID: WHO WAS A MAN THAT I
DON’T THINK THIS
GENERATION HAS SEEN
MIRACLES THAT HAS,
THAT HAVE OCCURRED UNDER
THIS MAN, A. A. ALLEN.
YOU KNEW NOTHING, AN EIGHT
YEAR OLD CHILD,
YOU KNEW NOTHING FROM
NOTHING.
SO WHAT ELSE HAPPENED?
FRANCINA: SO AS, YOU KNOW,
AS I WENT THROUGH THE
PRAYER LINE, AND HE, YOU
END UP IN FRONT OF HIM.
AND WHEN I GOT TO HIM, HE
STOPPED THE SERVICE.
THE MUSIC WAS GOING, THE
CHOIR WAS SINGING.
HE STOPPED THE SERVICE AND
HE ASKED THE QUESTION,
“WHO’S CHILD IS THIS?”
AND MY NEIGHBOR WAS BEHIND
ME AND SHE SAID,
“THIS IS MY NEIGHBOR’S
CHILD.”
AND HE SAYS, “THIS CHILD
HAS A PROPHETIC ANOINTING
ON HER LIFE AND SHE SHALL
MINISTER TO THE NATION,
AND SHE SHALL PROPHESY,
SHE WILL GO PLACES THAT A
PERSON OF HER CALIBER HAD
NEVER BEEN,
HER RACE OR HER GENDER.”
AND THEN HE SAID, “AND GOD
IS GOING TO HEAL HER FROM
ASTHMA.”
AND HE TOLD ME TO RAISE MY
HANDS.
WHEN I RAISED MY HANDS OIL
STARTED POURING OUT OF MY
HANDS, AND I WAS SO
AFRAID.
SID: I WAS WONDERING.
YOU MUST HAVE BEEN
FEARFUL.
THIS IS KIND OF STRANGE.
FRANCINA: AND I WAS, MY
KNEES STARTED KNOCKING
BECAUSE IT WAS ALMOST LIKE
A PRESENCE THAT JUST
TOUCHED ME FROM THE CROWN
OF MY HEAD TO THE SOLE OF
MY FEET.
AND I JUST COULDN’T
UNDERSTAND THIS.
I’M ONLY EIGHT YEARS OLD
AND I WAS NOT RAISED IN A
SETTING LIKE THAT.
AND SO MY KNEES GOT WEAK
AND I STARTED CRYING
UNCONTROLLABLY AND I
DIDN’T UNDERSTAND WHY AM I
CRYING.
NO ONE IS HARMING ME.
BUT IT WAS A PEACE THAT
CAME OVER ME.
AND WHEN HE PRAYED FOR ME
THE OIL CAME OUT OF MY
HANDS, AND HE SAID, “ALSO
YOU WILL NEVER SUFFER FROM
ASTHMA FROM THIS POINT
ON.”
AND I WENT COMPLETELY OUT,
AND I WAS OUT THE ENTIRE
SERVICE BECAUSE WHEN I
CAME BACK TO,
EVERYBODY WAS GONE.
THE LIGHTS WERE CUT OFF
AND THEY WERE TRYING TO
GET ME UP.
BUT AS I WAS OUT THE LORD
JUST SHOWED ME HEAVEN.
HE SHOWED ME ANGELS.
HE SHOWED ME, HE STARTED
SHOWING ME VISIONS,
I MEAN AS AN ADULT.
I KNEW HOW I LOOKED AS AN
ADULT AT THAT PARTICULAR
TIME.
SID: THAT’S AMAZING.
FRANCINA: BECAUSE GOD
SHOWED IT TO ME.
AND I WAS LIKE, I COULD
NOT EXPLAIN IT.
IN FACT, I COULDN’T TALK
THE WHOLE TIME FOR AT
LEAST TWO HOURS ON THE WAY
TO HOME.
SID: BOTTOM LINE.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE
ASTHMA?
FRANCINA: NO MORE ASTHMA.
NEVER SUFFERED FROM
ASTHMA,
NEVER HAD AN ATTACK FROM
THAT POINT ON,
TOTAL HEALING.
SID: JUST OUT OF
CURIOSITY,
I’VE NEVER SEEN AN ANGEL.
OF COURSE YOU WERE EIGHT
YEARS OLD.
WHAT DOES AN ANGEL LOOK
LIKE?
FRANCINA: YOU KNOW,
EVERYBODY IS ALWAYS,
THE THING ABOUT IT IS I
NEVER SAW THE FACE,
AND I’VE SEEN ANGELS
SEVERAL TIMES.
I SAW THE WING, AND YOU
KNOW,
IT DESCRIBES IN THE BIBLE
WE ALWAYS LOOK AT ANGELS
AS HAVING TWO WINGS, BUT
THERE ARE DIFFERENT
SECTIONS.
THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES
OF ANGELS,
CHERUBIM, THERE’S
DIFFERENT ANGELS,
ALSO THE ARCHANGELS AND
ALL THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE
THEIR ORGANIZATION.
BUT THIS ANGEL, THE ANGELS
THAT I SAW THEY HAD LIKE
SIX WINGS AND IT WAS LIKE
I DIDN’T EVER SEE THE
FACE.
BUT I COULD SEE THEM
FLYING UP IN HEAVEN.
THEY WERE JUST, NO ONE
BUMPED UP INTO EACH OTHER
AND THEY JUST KEPT CRYING
OUT,
“HOLY, HOLY, HOLY IS THE
LAMB,
HOLY IS THE LAMB,
BLESSINGS AND GLORY,
AND HONOR AND PRAISE, AND
DOMINION,
AND POWER.”
SID: ALL RIGHT.
YOU HAD THE ASTHMA, THE
BAD STUFF TAKEN AWAY.
BUT THEN A GIFT STARTED
OPERATING.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST A
THEORY ON MY PART.
THIS WAS SUCH AN UNUSUAL
GREAT MAN OF GOD, A. A. ALLEN,
THAT THERE IS WHAT
IS KNOWN AS A TRANSFER OF
ANOINTING.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WHEN HE
PRAYED FOR YOU,
SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT
WAS GOOD.
YOU BEGAN TO KNOW THINGS
THAT YOUR MIND HAD NEVER
BEEN TOLD.
LIKE TELL ME THE THING YOU
REMEMBER.
FRANCINA: THE FIRST THING
WAS I KNEW THERE WAS A
CHANGE IN MY LIFE, BUT
MIND YOU NOW,
I DID NOT GET SAVED.
I DID NOT ACCEPT CHRIST IN
MY LIFE.
I DIDN’T KNOW ANYTHING
ABOUT THAT.
I JUST HAD THAT
EXPERIENCE.
NO ONE AT THAT TIME LED ME
TO THE LORD.
I WAS UP THERE FOR
HEALING.
SO WHEN I GOT BACK HOME,
LIKE A COUPLE OF DAYS
LATER I TURNED TO MOTHER.
I SAID, THE NEIGHBOR, HER
NAME WAS MISS BROWN,
“I SAID, I SAW HER HOUSE.
I COULD SEE IT.
HER HOUSE IS GOING TO GET
BURNT DOWN AND YOU NEED TO
TELL HER DON’T BE AT HER
HOUSE A CERTAIN TIME
BECAUSE,” I COULDN’T
EXPLAIN IT.
ACTUALLY, IT WAS LIKE
ELECTRICAL WIRING,
BUT I DIDN’T SAY THAT.
I SAID, “WIRES ARE GONNA
GET CROSSED AND BURN THE
HOUSE DOWN.”
SID: HOW DID YOUR MOTHER
REACT?
FRANCINA: SHE LOOKED AT ME
LIKE I WAS CRAZY.
SID: I’M SURE.
FRANCINA: SO SHE DIDN’T
EVEN RESPOND.
SHE WAS LIKE, GIRL, GO SIT
DOWN.
SID: I PICTURE MY EIGHT
YEAR OLD DAUGHTER RUNNING
UP TO ME AND SAYING, “DAD,
NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR IS
GONNA BURN DOWN FROM SOME
WIRING TYPE PROBLEM.”
FRANCINA: RIGHT.
SID: SO WHAT HAPPENED?
FRANCINA: THE VERY NEXT
DAY,
I TOLD MY MOTHER THE TIME
AND EVERYTHING,
THE VERY NEXT DAY AT THAT
TIME.
SID: YOU KNEW IT WAS THE
NEXT DAY AND THE TIME.
FRANCINA: YEAH AND THE
TIME,
6:00.
SID: THAT’S VERY PRECISE.
FRANCINA: YEAH IT WAS.
I KNEW THE TIME AND
EVERYTHING.
AT 6:00, AND I SAID, AND
ALL I SAID WAS,
MY GOD, I’M PRAYING TO GOD
THAT I DON’T KNOW,
AND I’M LIKE, “GOD, JUST
PLEASE DON’T LET HER BE IN
THE HOUSE.”
AND HE HEARD MY PRAYER,
BECAUSE THE VERY NEXT DAY
AT 6:00 YOU HEAR THE
AMBULANCE.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS A BIG
EVENT,
YOU KNOW, IN THE GHETTO
WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENED
LIKE THAT, BECAUSE WE’RE
SO CLOSE KNIT.
THE HOUSE IS BURNING DOWN,
THE FIREMEN WAS THERE AND
SHE WAS AT WORK.
AND WHEN SHE CAME HOME SHE
LOST EVERYTHING.
AND THEN FROM THAT POINT
ON,
IT JUST STARTED FLOWING.
SID: OUT OF CURIOSITY,
WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOMEONE,
DO YOU ALWAYS KNOW
SOMETHING?
FRANCINA: YES, JUST BY
TALKING ON THE PHONE.
SID: AND LET ME ASK YOU
THIS.
WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS
PERSON,
DO YOU SEE IT, DO YOU HEAR
IT,
DO YOU THINK IT?
HOW DOES IT – FRANCINA: ALL
OF THE ABOVE. (LAUGHS)
SID: NOW LISTEN.
THE NEW TESTAMENT SAYS
THAT THE TRUE BELIEVER IS
TO PROVOKE THE JEW TO
JEALOUSY.
NOW YOU KNOW I HAPPEN TO
BE JEWISH AND I’M GOING TO
TELL YOU SOMETHING, YOU
ARE PROVOKING ME TO
JEALOUSY.
[MUSIC♪]
BUT AS A FAMOUS MAN SAID,
YOU AIN’T SEEN ANYTHING YET.
DON’T YOU DARE GO AWAY
BECAUSE WE’RE GOING TO
FIND OUT WHAT SHE KNOWS
MAYBE,
JUST MAYBE ABOUT YOU.
[MUSIC♪]
WE’LL RETURN TO MORE OF
SID ROTH AND IT’S SUPERNATURAL.
WE’LL RETURN TO MORE OF
SID ROTH AND IT’S SUPERNATURAL.
[MUSIC♪]
SID: HI. I’M SID ROTH YOUR
INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER.
I’M SO CAUGHT UP WITH
TALKING TO FRANCINA
NORMAN.
I MEAN, CAN YOU IMAGINE AS
A YOUNG EIGHT YEAR OLD SHE
GETS HEALED OF ASTHMA, SHE
FALLS OUT UNDER A PRESENCE
OF GOD, SHE SEES ANGELS
AND THEN SHE BEGINS
KNOWING THINGS, JUST
REALLY KNOWING THINGS THAT
ARE GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE
FUTURE.
BUT YOU GOT VERY, VERY
SICK ONE TIME.
WERE YOU ABOUT READY TO
DIE IN THE HOSPITAL?
FRANCINA: YES.
BUT YOU KNOW, AS A RESULT
OF THAT ANOINTING THAT
CAME ON ME, THE PROPHETIC
ANOINTING THAT GOD WAS
CALLING ME INTO, ALL
THROUGH SCHOOL AT THAT
POINT I DIDN’T HAVE TO
STUDY.
SID: HOW WERE YOUR GRADES?
FRANCINA: I WAS SO GIFTED.
MY GRADES WERE STRAIGHT
A’S BECAUSE I WOULD SIT
THERE AND HEAR THE TEACHER
TALK AND WHEN IT WAS TIME
FOR A TEST I COULD STILL
HEAR HER IN THE SPIRIT
TALK, THAT WHEN I WAS
TAKING A TEST IT WAS
ALMOST LIKE SOMEBODY WAS
RECORDING THAT IN MY EARS.
SID: I GUESS THAT’S KIND
OF UNUSUAL FOR SOMEONE
RAISED IN THE GHETTO TO
GET STRAIGHT A’S.
FRANCINA: RIGHT.
SID: SO THEY RECOGNIZED
YOU WERE GIFTED.
FRANCINA: SO EVERYBODY, IT
GOT TO THE POINT THAT
EVERYBODY IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD WAS LIKE
PUSHING FOR ME THAT SHE’S
GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS,
AND SHE’S GOING TO COME
AND BE A BLESSING TO US.
AND SO, AND THEN AS A
RESULT OF THAT,
THERE’S SOMEONE THAT JUST
KEPT HOUNDING ME TO GET
SAVED, AND I KEPT GIVING
GOD EXCUSES.
OKAY, WAIT UNTIL I DO
THIS,
BECAUSE I WAS INVOLVED
WITH SO MANY THINGS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, GOING TO
SPAIN,
I GOT PICKED TO GO TO
SPAIN.
SID: YOU WANT TO HAVE FUN,
FUN,
FUN.
FRANCINA: RIGHT.
SID: BEFORE YOU TURN YOUR
LIFE OVER TO GOD,
WHICH YOU KNOW YOU’RE
GOING TO DO ANYWAY.
FRANCINA: RIGHT.
SID: BUT YOU WANT TO DO IT
ON YOUR TIME.
FRANCINA: AND THAT’S WHAT
WAS HAPPENING.
SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS AS
SOON AS I WAS LIKE 21
YEARS OLD MY TONSILS THEY
SAID WAS OVER-LARGE.
IT OUTGREW MY BODY AND
THEY SAID,
AND I ALMOST GOT CHOKED,
AND ALMOST DIED.
SO THE DOCTOR SAID, WE
HAVE TO TAKE THEM OUT.
SO I JUST WENT IN THE
HOSPITAL FOR A T&A,
YOU KNOW, AND JUST TO GET
MY TONSILS OUT.
AND WHILE I WAS IN THE
HOSPITAL I GOT SO SICK
THAT THEY COULDN’T
UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING
ON.
I WAS ACTUALLY
DETERIORATING.
I MEAN, MY BODY WAS, I WAS
LOSING,
I COULDN’T KEEP ANYTHING
ON MY STOMACH.
SID: YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE
FOUND, FRANCINA?
WHAT I HAVE
FOUND IS MANY PEOPLE THAT
HAVE A CALL OF GOD ON
THEIR LIFE,
SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE
IT’S LIKE THEY TRY TO
SNUFF IT OUT.
LIKE I UNDERSTAND YOU HAD
A STEPFATHER THAT WAS AN
ALCOHOLIC AND ABUSIVE.
FRANCINA: YES.
SID: BUT THIS SOUNDS EVEN
WORSE.
WERE YOU ACTUALLY DYING?
FRANCINA: YES.
AND THEY DIDN’T UNDERSTAND
WHY.
AND EVEN THE CHALLENGES
BECAUSE,
YOU KNOW, IT’S ALMOST LIKE
WITH DAVID,
WHEN DAVID TOOK THE
DISTRESS AND HE TOOK THE
OUTCASTS, AND HE TOOK
THOSE THAT DIDN’T HAVE ANY
MONEY, THE ONES THAT SAUL
DIDN’T WANT,
HE TOOK THEM INTO THE
CAVE.
AND HE BUILT UP THEIR
CONFIDENCE,
THAT THEY CAME OUT AND
WHIPPED SAUL.
AND THEY WERE JUST LIKE
NOBODY.
AND YOU KNOW, EVEN MARK,
IN THE GHETTO,
YOU DO GOOD IF YOU WALK
OUT OF HERE JUST FINISHING
HIGH SCHOOL.
AND MY GOAL IS I WANT TO
GO COLLEGE.
I WANT TO DO MORE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I
KNEW GOD WAS CALLING ME.
BUT I WANTED TO DO MY OWN
THING.
BUT WHEN I GOT IN THE
HOSPITAL THERE WAS ANOTHER
LADY IN THE HOSPITAL, SHE
HAD JUST HAD A
HYSTERECTOMY, AND SHE WAS
MOANING ALL NIGHT.
AND I WAS SITTING THERE
SAYING,
“GOD, AM I GONNA DIE?”
AND THE GIRL THAT WAS
HOUNDING ME TO GET SAVED,
SHE CAME BY THE HOSPITAL
AND SHE SAID,
“YOU NEED TO GET SAVED.”
AND I WAS LIKE, “LEAVE ME
ALONE.”
AND I WAS SITTING IN THE
HOSPITAL,
I’LL NEVER FORGET IT, AND
IT WAS LIKE 4:00 IN THE
MORNING AND I HEARD MY
NAME,
FRANCINA, AUDIBLY.
SID: WHO WAS SPEAKING TO
YOU?
FRANCINA: HE SAID, “THIS
IS GOD.”
HE IDENTIFIED HIMSELF.
HE SAID, THE FIRST TIME HE
SAID,
“FRANCINA, IF YOU WANT TO
LIVE GIVE YOUR HEART TO
ME.”
SO THEN I THOUGHT THE LADY
SAID THAT,
BUT SHE WAS OUT COLD FROM
HER MEDICATION,
YOU KNOW.
SO I WAS LIKE, OKAY, I
MUST BE HEARING THINGS.
THEN IT SAID AGAIN,
“FRANCINA,
THIS IS GOD.
IF YOU GIVE YOUR LIFE TO
ME I’LL TOTALLY HEAL YOU.”
SO THEN IT SAID –
SID: EXCUSE ME, I DON’T
THINK YOU HAVE
MUCH OF A CHOICE.
IF YOU DON’T GIVE YOUR
LIFE TO HIM,
YOU’RE DEAD.
FRANCINA: SO THEN HE SAYS,
SO I SAID,
UH, YOU KNOW.
SO THEN HE SAYS,
“FRANCINA,
THIS IS GOD.
I NEED YOU TO DO SOMETHING
IN THIS WORLD THAT ONLY
YOU COULD DO.
YOU WERE BORN TO DO IT.
GIVE YOUR LIFE TO ME.”
AND WHEN GOD SAID THAT HE
NEEDED ME,
JUST TO THINK THAT, OH MY
GOD,
BECAUSE WE’VE BEEN TAUGHT
GOD DON’T NEED YOU,
AND THAT’S NOT TRUE.
HE DOES.
WE’RE BORN FOR A SPECIFIC
PURPOSE TO FULFILL HIS
PURPOSE IN OUR LIFE.
SID: DO YOU BELIEVE THAT’S
TRUE FOR EVERYONE,
FRANCINA?
FRANCINA: YES, EVERYBODY.
SID: IT’S YOUR DESTINY.
FRANCINA: RIGHT.
EVERYBODY’S GOT A DESTINY
AND EVERYBODY’S GOT A
PURPOSE.
GOD WOULD NOT PUT YOU THIS
EARTH LIKE THE SONG,
QUE SERA, SERA, WHATEVER
WILL BE,
IT WILL BE.
GOD HAS A PURPOSE FOR YOU.
THE BIBLE SAYS, WE WERE
FORMED BEFORE THE
FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.
AND SO I BELIEVE THAT,
THAT YOU KNOW,
IT’S JUST LIKE IF SOMEONE
IS PREGNANT,
YOU DON’T WAIT UNTIL THE
BABY COMES TO PROVIDE FOR
IT.
YOU PREPARE FOR THE BIRTH.
SID: YES.
FRANCINA: AND THAT’S WHAT
GOD DOES.
HE PREPARES US FOR A
SPECIFIC JOB AND THEN HAS
YOU BORN TO DO THE JOB.
AND I BELIEVE THAT.
AND SO WHEN HE SAID THAT
NOBODY WAS AROUND.
THERE WASN’T A PREACHER,
THE YOUNG LADY THAT WANTED
ME TO GET SAVED, NO ONE
WAS AROUND.
AND I SAID, “GOD, I
SURRENDER TO YOU AND I
ACCEPT THIS.
TELL ME WHAT’S GOING ON IN
MY LIFE?
WHY AM I SEEING THINGS?
WHAT AM I CALLED?”
SID: I WOULD IMAGINE THAT
YOU HAD A LOT OF
QUESTIONS.
FRANCINA: WHY AM I LIKE
THIS?
AND THEN THE LORD CAME
INTO MY LIFE,
AND I’M TELLING YOU, THE
NEXT DAY WHEN THE DOCTORS
CAME, I SAID, “OKAY, I’M
READY TO GO HOME NOW
BECAUSE I HAVE TO GO TO
CHURCH.”
HE SAID, YOU’RE CRAZY.
I SAID, “CHECK EVERYTHING.
I’M TOTALLY HEALED.”
AND THEY CHECKED
EVERYTHING.
THEY COULD NOT BELIEVE IT.
EVERYTHING WAS
FUNCTIONING,
ALL MY VITAL ORGANS THAT
WERE FAILING.
BUT AT THAT TIME
EVERYTHING STARTED
FUNCTIONING PROPERLY.
I GOT OUT OF THE HOSPITAL
IN LESS THAN TWO HOURS.
CHURCH WAS THERE.
IT WAS A SUNDAY.
SUNDAY I WENT TO CHURCH.
WHEN THEY HAD AN ALTAR
CALL I WAS THE FIRST ONE
UP THERE.
NOBODY HAD TO, BECAUSE THE
GIRL THOUGHT SHE WAS GOING
TO HAVE PUSH ME UP THERE.
AND WHEN I RECEIVED CHRIST
INTO MY LIFE IN THE
HOSPITAL, BUT WHEN I WENT
TO THAT CHURCH I HEARD THE
HOLY SPIRIT SAY, I HEARD
ANGELS,
I COULD HEAR MUSIC SAYING,
“IT’S SEALED BY THE HOLY
SPIRIT.”
AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT IS
SEALED.
AND WHAT GOD WAS REALLY
SAYING IS,
MY PROPHETESS IS GETTING
READY TO GO FORTH NOW.
SID: WHAT ARE YOU CALLED
FOR AND WHAT HAS GOD
SHOWED YOU?
FRANCINA: MY PURPOSE IS SO
GOOD.
I’M SO THANKFUL THAT I
KNOW IT NOW.
MY PURPOSE IS GOD HAS
GIVEN ME A GIFT THAT I’M
CALLED TO THE NATION TO
PROPHESY AND TO MINISTER
TO THE NATION.
I MINISTER TO POLITICIANS.
I MINISTER TO POOR PEOPLE.
I MINISTER TO EVERYBODY IN
ALL WALKS OF LIFE.
MY PURPOSE IS TO SPEAK
PROPHETICALLY OVER THEIR
LIFE.
HE’S GIVEN ME THE GIFT OF
DISCERNMENT THAT EVEN WITH
YOUR CHILD, WITH YOUR
CHILDREN,
I CAN TELL WHAT SPIRIT IS
LURKING ON THEM AND TAKE
AUTHORITY OVER IT BEFORE
IT ACTUALLY STARTS
MANIFESTING.
SID: GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE
THAT.
FRANCINA: AN EXAMPLE.
I WAS AT A MEETING ONE
TIME AND I SAW A
HOMOSEXUAL SPIRIT.
YOU KNOW, GENERAL SPIRITS
TRAVEL FROM GENERATIONS.
SID: WHAT DOES A
HOMOSEXUAL SPIRIT LOOK
LIKE?
FRANCINA: OKAY.
WELL WHEN I SAY A
HOMOSEXUAL SPIRIT,
IT’S LIKE I DIDN’T, WHAT I
SAID,
I SEE A HOMOSEXUAL, WHAT
I’M SAYING IS,
WHEN I’M LOOKING AT THAT
PERSON THE HOLY SPIRIT IS
SAYING THEY’RE DEALING
WITH A HOMOSEXUAL SPIRIT
LIKE THAT.
SID: HOW OLD WAS THIS
PERSON THAT YOU SAW THE
SPIRIT?
FRANCINA: THIS PERSON WAS
ONLY FIVE YEARS OLD.
SID: FIVE YEARS OLD?
WAS HE A HOMOSEXUAL?
FRANCINA: THE SPIRIT WAS
LURKING.
NOTHING HAD BEEN
MANIFESTED YET.
AND WHAT HAPPENED IS WHEN
I SAY GENERATIONAL
SPIRITS.
SID: YES.
FRANCINA: FOR INSTANCE,
ABRAHAM LYING ABOUT SARAH
BEING HIS WIFE TWICE.
FORTY YEARS LATER, HIS SON
ISAAC LIED,
TOO.
SID: YEAH.
THE BIBLE SAYS THESE
SPIRITS PASS ON TO FOUR
GENERATIONS.
FRANCINA: RIGHT.
AND IT TRAVELS.
SO BUT WE HAVE THE POWER
THAT WE COULD SPEAK THAT
AND WE COULD TAKE
AUTHORITY OVER THEM,
AND WE CAN CLOSE THOSE
DOORS,
AND WE COULD BREAK THOSE
GENERATIONAL SPIRITS.
SO THIS IS, I SAW IT ON
THIS CHILD.
SO I WENT TO THE PARENT
AND I SAID TO THE PARENT,
“I SEE THIS ON YOUR CHILD
AND IS IT ALL RIGHT IF I
TAKE AUTHORITY OVER IT
THAT THEY WOULD RECEIVE
IT?”
THREE YEARS AGO, I WAS IN
MIAMI IN A SERVICE AND
THAT MOTHER CAME UP TO AND
SAID,
“DO YOU REMEMBER ME?”
AND SAID, “YES I DO.”
SHE SAID, “I WAS THE ONE
THAT YOU SAID ABOUT MY SON
AND I DIDN’T RECEIVE IT.”
AND SHE SAID, “MY SON IS
ACTUALLY PRACTICING
HOMOSEXUALITY.”
[MUSIC♪]
SID: LISTEN, YOU’D BETTER
RECEIVE WHAT FRANCINA IS
GOING TO TELL YOU.
RIGHT BACK IN A MOMENT.
[MUSIC♪]
WE WILL RETURN TO MORE OF
IT’S SUPERNATURAL RIGHT
AFTER THIS.
[MUSIC♪]
SID: HELLO. SID ROTH YOUR
INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER AND
I AM SO LOOKING FORWARD TO
WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN
RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE
GIFTING THAT GOD GAVE TO
FRANCINA NORMAN, I’VE
ASKED HER AND SHE SAYS,
YES SHE’S READY.
SHE WANTS TO MOVE IN THE
PROPHETIC CALLING THAT SHE
RECEIVED AS A LITTLE EIGHT
YEAR OLD CHILD.
FRANCINA, YOU’VE LEARNED A
LOT OVER THESE YEARS,
BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE HAVE
GIFTS THAT WE DON’T KNOW
HOW TO OPERATE WITH THEM.
BUT AT THIS POINT, GOD HAS
TAUGHT YOU A LOT.
WHAT IS HE SHOWING YOU
RIGHT NOW?
FRANCINA: WELL AS WE’RE
TALKING I WANT PEOPLE TO
UNDERSTAND, TOO, THAT
THERE’S TWO THINGS I MADE
A PROMISE TO GOD WHEN I
STARTED UNDERSTANDING WHAT
THE CALLING WAS.
ONE, I WOULD NOT
PROSTITUTE THE ANOINTING.
TWO, I WOULD NEVER
MERCHANDISE THE PROPHETIC.
AND THAT’S IMPORTANT.
SID: THAT’S DANGEROUS.
FRANCINA: BECAUSE WHEN
YOU’RE MOVING LIKE THAT
AND GOD IS SHOWING YOU THE
HEARTBEAT OF PEOPLE,
WHAT COMES WITH IT IS
POWER AND YOU CAN ABUSE
IT, AND YOU HAVE TO BE
REAL CAREFUL.
SO THAT’S WHY I KEEP A
PRAYER LINE.
AND I WANT YOU TO
UNDERSTAND SOMETHING,
TOO.
AS I WAS TALKING TO YOU,
SEE,
WHAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND
IS THAT GOD ALWAYS CALLS
US TO THE WORLD.
GOD NEVER SAID HE LOVED
THE CHURCH.
THE BIBLE SAYS WHEN JESUS
CAME,
“GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD
THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY
BEGOTTEN SON.”
HE LOVED THE WORLD.
AND AS A RESULT OF THAT OF
LOVING THE WORLD,
HE ALWAYS CALLED, WHEN
YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT
ISRAEL, HE’S TALKING ABOUT
THE NATION.
HE’S ALWAYS CONCERNED
ABOUT WHAT’S HAPPENING
WITH THE NATION.
AND SO EVEN THE WORK THAT
YOU’RE DOING,
EVEN THE GIFT THAT YOU
HAVE,
EVEN WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE
UNDERSTANDING AND YOUR
DESIRE TO WANT TO KNOW
MORE AND MORE ABOUT THE
SUPERNATURAL AND WANT TO
KNOW MORE AND MORE ABOUT
GOD AND THE HUNGER, AND
THIRST AFTER GOD,
AND THE RIGHTEOUS, EVEN
THE LYING,
EVEN ALL THE OBSTACLES
THAT YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH
TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE
YOU ARE RIGHT NOW.
THE LORD TOLD ME TO TELL
YOU,
YOU HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING
YET.
AND THE LORD ALSO SAID
THAT HE’S GOING TO RESTORE
YOUR HEALTH, NOT JUST ME
KNOWING THAT YOU HAD A
COLD, BUT GOD IS GOING TO
TOUCH YOU COMPLETELY IN
YOUR BODY.
BECAUSE THE LORD SHOWED ME
WHEN I WAS,
WHEN I SAW YOU IN THE
GREEN ROOM,
THE LORD SHOWED ME THAT
YOU NEEDED A HEALING IN
YOUR BODY, AND GOD WAS
GOING TO TOUCH YOU.
HE WAS GOING TO TOUCH YOU
IN THOSE AREAS AND GOD
SAID THAT THE STEP THAT
YOU’RE GOING IS NOTHING
COMPARED TO WHERE HE’S
GETTING READY TO TAKE YOU.
HE’S SAYING, YOU’RE GOING
TO BE A MOUTHPIECE FOR THE
NATION OF ISRAEL.
YOU WILL BE MOUTHPIECE.
GOD SAID, “I WILL OPEN UP
THE DOOR AND THEY WILL
COME AT YOUR FEET.”
AND GOD SAID HE’S GOING TO
START IMPARTING IN YOU
GIFTS.
HE SAID, “I’M GOING TO
GIVE YOU GIFTS THAT YOU
WILL BEGIN TO SEE IN THE
SUPERNATURAL.”
HE SAID, “YOU KNOW I’M
DOING IT BECAUSE I CAN
TRUST YOU.
YOU HAVE STOOD THE TEST
AND I COULD TRUST YOU WITH
IT.”
AND THEN THE LORD TOLD ME
TO TELL YOU THERE’S A
CONCERN ABOUT A FAMILY
MEMBER.
AND GOD SAID, “IT’S A DONE
DEAL.
I’VE ALREADY WORKED IT
OUT.”
HE SAID, “I’VE ALREADY
WORKED IT OUT.”
AND EVEN AS I LOOK INTO
THE CAMERAS RIGHT NOW,
BECAUSE HE’LL BE ABLE TO
TELL YOU THAT I DID NOT
DISCUSS ANYTHING WITH YOU.
SID: IN FACT, I HAVE TO
TELL YOU THIS RIGHT NOW.
SHE IS HITTING MAJOR,
MAJOR AREAS.
AND OF ALL THE GUESTS OVER
THE NEXT WEEKS,
SHE’S THE ONLY ONE THAT
KNEW ALMOST NOTHING ABOUT
ME AND I KNEW ALMOST
NOTHING ABOUT HER.
SO I VERIFY THAT.
FRANCINA: AND THEN ON TOP
OF THAT,
THE LORD SAYS, “DON’T BE
CONCERNED ABOUT THE
FINANCES,” BECAUSE GOD
SAYS,
“I’VE GOT ORDAINED PEOPLE
THAT’S BEEN ORDAINED BY ME
THAT’S GOING TO GIVE YOU
THE FUNDS THAT YOU NEED TO
DO THIS PROJECT.”
SID: YOU KNOW FRANCINA, I
ALMOST FEEL LIKE SHAKING
AS YOU’RE TALKING.
IT’S LIKE THE SPIRIT OF
GOD IS HITTING ME.
IT IS A VERY SUPERNATURAL
THING.
IT’S NOT A NATURAL THING.
IT’S LIKE HE’S IN ME AND I
DON’T KNOW WHAT HE’S
DOING, BUT HE’S DOING
SOMETHING.
FRANCINA: SOMETHING IS
BEING IMPARTED IN YOU.
AND YOU KNOW, LATER ON WE
CAN GO THROUGH IT WHEN WE
HAVE TIME.
BUT SEE, I ALSO SEE AN
AIRPLANE.
I SEE YOU GOING BACK AND
FORTH,
TAKING STUFF, MINISTERING
TO THE NATION OF ISRAEL.
I MEAN, GOING INTO, YOU
KNOW,
ISRAEL AND I SEE YOU GOING
BACK AND FORTH.
I SEE GOD PUTTING, GIVING
YOU FAVOR AND HONOR AMONG
MEN AND WOMEN THAT’S GOING
TO PLANT MAJOR SEEDS INTO
THIS MINISTRY.
AND EVEN I SEE WHERE THE
ENEMY TRIED TO ATTACK YOU
FINANCIALLY WHERE IT
ALMOST WENT UNDER.
BUT GOD SAID, “NO, IT’S
ORDAINED.
IT’S APPOINTED BY ME AND
I’M OBLIGATED TO SUPPLY
THE NEED.”
HE SAID, “I PUT THAT
PASSION IN YOU.
THAT WASN’T SOMETHING THAT
YOU DID.
I PUT IT IN YOU, SO I’M
OBLIGATED TO TAKE CARE OF
IT.”
AND THEN EVEN AS I’M
TALKING RIGHT NOW,
THERE’S SOME OF YOU THAT’S
LISTENING TO THIS SHOW.
AND THERE’S A YOUNG LADY
RIGHT NOW AND THERE’S A
JEWISH FAMILY LISTENING
RIGHT NOW,
AND I SEE WHERE THE FAMILY
HAS BEEN DISTORTED,
BECAUSE I SEE IN THE
SPIRIT WHERE YOUR DAUGHTER
IS INVOLVED WITH SOMEONE
THAT’S NOT A BELIEVER,
THAT DOES NOT BELIEVE THE
WAY YOU ALL BELIEVE.
AND YOU’RE REALLY GO
THROUGH CONCERNING THAT.
BUT THE LORD SAID HE
SPEAKS,
“I SPEAK PEACE TO YOU
RIGHT NOW IN THE NAME OF
JESUS.”
GOD TOLD ME TO TELL YOU TO
TAKE YOUR HANDS OFF IT AND
RELAX IN HIM BECAUSE HE IS
GOING TO WORK.
HE SAYS THAT, “DON’T PUT
THE RESPONSIBILITY,
SHE WASN’T TRAINED LIKE
THIS.”
GOD TOLD ME TO TELL YOU,
HE SAID THAT,
“LET ME WORK BECAUSE THE
SEED HAS ALREADY BEEN
PLANTED AND LET ME WORK,
AND LET ME DO WHAT NEEDS
TO BE DONE.”
THERE’S ALSO SOMEONE
LISTENING RIGHT NOW.
YOU’RE VERY INFLUENTIAL IN
SOCIETY,
BUT YOU’RE TRYING TO HIDE
IT.
BUT THERE’S A LOVED ONE
THAT’S STRUNG OUT ON DRUGS
AND YOU DON’T WANT NOBODY
TO KNOW THIS.
BUT GOD TOLD ME TO TELL
YOU,
HE SAYS THAT HE PROMISED
YOU THAT HE WOULD DELIVER
IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, WRITE
IT DOWN.
THIRTY DAYS FROM TODAY GOD
IS GOING TO CAUSE THIS
CHILD TO LOSE THE DESIRE
TO WANT TO TAKE DRUGS AND
IT WILL BE SUPERNATURAL,
AND YOU WILL KNOW THAT
IT’S GOD THAT IS DOING IT.
THERE’S ALSO A BUSINESSMAN
THAT YOU’RE GOING THROUGH
A MAJOR LAWSUIT, AND GOD
TOLD ME TO TELL YOU,
HE’S GOING TO TURN IT
AROUND IN YOUR BEHALF IF
YOU TRUST HIM.
AND YOU KNOW, EVEN YOUR
STAFF,
I DON’T EVEN KNOW ANYTHING
ABOUT WHERE YOU’RE
LOCATED, BUT YOU’RE
GETTING READY TO MOVE INTO
A BIGGER PLACE.
THIS THING IS GOING TO BE
SO BIG YOU’RE GOING TO
HAVE TO, I’M TELLING YOU,
GOD SAID,
“THIS YEAR IS THE YEAR
THAT IS GETTING READY TO
TAKE OFF.”
SID: AND YOU KNOW WHAT I’M
GOING TO TELL YOU,
FRANCINA?
I’M GOING TO TELL YOU AND
I’M GOING TO TELL YOU,
BECAUSE YOU ARE SPECIAL.
JUST AS GOD HAD A VERY
SPECIAL AND HAS A VERY
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SPECIAL PLAN FOR FRANCINA
AND HAS A VERY SPECIAL
PLAN FOR ME, HE HAS A
SPECIAL PLAN FOR YOU.
BUT THE FIRST THING IS YOU
MUST COME TO KNOW HIM BY
REPENTING OF YOUR SINS,
ASKING HIM TO FORGIVE YOU
BECAUSE OF THE BLOOD OF
JESUS,
AND MAKING HIM NOT JUST
YOUR SAVIOR,
BUT YOUR LORD, AND GET TO
KNOW HIM.
SAY, I WANT TO KNOW YOU.
I KNOW I DON’T YOU, BUT I
KNOW THAT THERE’S
SOMETHING MORE.
O GOD, THERE MUST BE
SOMETHING MORE.
IF THIS IS ALL THERE IS TO
LIFE,
I MIGHT AS WELL JUST CHUCK
IT RIGHT NOW.
BUT I TELL YOU, STOP,
THERE IS SOMETHING MORE.
THERE IS A WONDERFUL
DESTINY FOR YOUR LIFE AND
IT’S LIKE YOU’RE ON A
TRACK,
YOU’RE GOING THE WRONG WAY
AND STOP.
COME TO YOUR SENSES AND
MAKE HIM YOUR LORD AND
SAY, “GOD, I GOT TO KNOW
YOU IN JESUS’ NAME.
I MUST KNOW YOU.
THERE’S GOT TO BE
SOMETHING MORE TO LIFE
THAN WORK, EAT AND SLEEP,
AND THAT’S THE WAY IT
GOES.”
THERE MUST BE SOMETHING
MORE.
AND I TELL YOU THERE IS
AND HE LOVES YOU,
AND I ASK IN JESUS’ NAME
THAT HIS LOVE WOULD COME
RIGHT UPON RIGHT WHERE
YOU’RE SEATED.
YOU WOULD EXPERIENCE THE
MOST WONDERFUL OUTPOURING
OF HIS SPIRIT BECAUSE THIS
IS YOUR MOMENT.
THIS IS YOUR DESTINY
THAT’S BEING IMPARTED
RIGHT NOW.
I PROMISE YOU THAT YOU ARE
SPECIAL.
AND THE DAY THAT YOU SEEK
HIM WITH ALL YOUR HEART,
IN THAT DAY HE’LL BE
FOUND.