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you all hi I’m here with the Priscilla
Shire
I’m her younger sister yeah no no no
we’re do sisters you just said were
sisters
why should I don’t like that anyway
we’re here with all of my accouterments
even though we could have just done this
over the phone or pajamas but I loaded
up all the stuff and brought it over to
see you in person like we don’t see each
other in person I know all the time but
one of her children are currently eating
dinner with much yes because this is how
I work
but interviewing you put on my podcast
two times already and you have a very
good podcast thank you you have a really
great podcast the topics and the guests
you have listed in the fact that I’ve
done it for almost five years that’s
what has it been five years I started it
well yeah four and a half oh yeah what
I’m not amazing or listen I’m just
trying to be out here just I don’t even
know but you’ve only been on the video
show with other people right i helping
you host others yeah I haven’t had just
had you on to talk to you and you’re
such a good interviewee
an ancient moment interviewee like when
I asked like people no no no I’m the
interview word oh that’s right you’re
that too but now you’re the interviewee
that’s true okay
and you all probably don’t know this but
back in the day Priscilla actually went
to school for communications because she
wanted to be like a news person yeah
that was my goal for my life was
broadcast journalism yes so this is fun
for me to interview her even though
she’s trained to be the interviewer I
don’t know what I’m saying right now
yeah but anyway um first time to be just
by yourself
laughter circle shows
we’re doing this because she has more
stuff coming out that is going to bless
you in more movies because you keep
telling people that you’re your only you
know you only did it and God only open
the door that one movie and you just
like your answer you have an answer
which is you know God just it was a
another venue another avenue for doing
minute eternity
yeah and it was just an opportunity that
you weren’t looking for right and so you
kind of talked about it like a lot but
then you were in a second movie I was
like what they call me I was like you
want me to do that again yes and then
now we’re in number three so this movie
that’s coming out August the 23rd
overcomer over camera okay so are you
the lead role in this movie know you’re
supporting them on some morning wrong
okay yeah that’s fun and so your role
what’s your name of the movie
Olivia Brooks she is the principal of
the school where the main character at
Cannon school she’s a 15 year old girl
okay so I’m curious you’ve been a lead
in a movie and now you’ve been
supporting yes in a couple of movies
which do you prefer oh that is actually
a good question listen I come with it I
gotta come with a good question yeah
that’s a good question I will say that
that it’s hard to answer that question
because I prefer there are some things I
like about being a lead there’s some
things I like about being a supporting
here okay give us bozo being a lead
means you get to be on set the entire
time they do have so many lines and so
many scenes you got to be there all
summer for example with war room
we literally my whole family packed up
in mood you came for a little while on
bed
I even got to sneak in that’s right I
got to walk through we will watch the
scene where me and Miss Clara are about
to walk into the the parking garage
where we’re accosted by the guy that’s
gonna rob us right as we’re walking in
there is a woman in white clothes that
walks behind us in the scene listen five
minutes y’all all evaded five minutes of
a spot seconds oh it was like five
seconds I really only gave you five
seconds okay so you were I like even
though you were part of it it’s being
offset all summer yeah I mean it’s like
you really become a family because
you’re you are filming 13 hours a day
you know with the Kendrick brothers
films and with the Irwin brothers
they’re the guys that did I can only
imagine they have devotions every
morning yes you know we stop and pray
over certain scenes that we want you
know really God to be glorified in
theaters through it’s just like being at
summer camp but you’re working real hard
all day all day long for an entire
summer but having my son’s around that
and then an environment with all these
creative people behind cameras and hay
and lights and do an art direction all
that I just love being totally immersed
in the entire experience so that’s what
you get when you’re elite but the flip
side of that is I learn all the months
listen you got a cry on cue so there are
some days when other actors they have
off being us they don’t need to be in
that to go see but when you’re the lead
you are always filling every single day
all day long so there is there is a lot
of load to it and you don’t have that
when you’re supporting your like for I
can only imagine I just went in for two
or three days they filmed every single
scene that I was gonna be in in the
movie the two days that I was there then
I was done yeah and then with this film
two or three weeks or so we were in and
then when we’re out and so we didn’t get
to just be the full summer like
everybody else which I miss that I
really did so I mean I think that’s
interesting to just to talk movie talk
for just a second you said you know that
in some of these movies especially where
you’re not the lead you get you coming
you do your little
part which means that you don’t really
see the whole movie even when you’re the
league you don’t see the whole movie but
now especially when you’re doing a
supporting role yeah you’ve just been a
part of the scenes they’re out and then
you get my walk of life and can I tell
you a spiritual lesson that oh yeah
because she’s the prophetess but anyway
they teased me and say that all the time
listen let me tell you the spiritual
principle I got out of that because
you’re in this scene yeah and you’re
doing it with the other actor and the
director might say to you okay when you
finish that line I need you to look off
to the left and here do I know what
ain’t none nobody or they’ll say I need
you to kind of do a laugh cry where
you’re kind of laughing but it turns
into emotional crush and you’re kind of
like but why so you don’t get it and
you’ve got to choose whether or not I
can’t tell you how many times I just had
to trust what the director was saying
cuz it did I was like what am I looking
to the left it just but the director of
the writer is the only one that knows
all the ways the scenes are gonna be
edited together together so it wasn’t
until you see the final edited movie not
just if you know all the scenes but you
see the edited film all together
you sit there as someone that was in the
project you sit there and go this one I
needed to look to the left if I hadn’t
have looked to the left
it wouldn’t have transitioned well to
the scene that the director knew was
coming next so of course that’s true of
life like God sees the full spectrum of
the edited version of all the parts of
your story the season of singleness and
the season of marriage and the single
season of childlessness we were asking
God to give you a baby and it didn’t
work out on the right timing and all
that stuff it’s when you see the edited
version there you go which means you
have to compressed while you’re in the
middle of it I can trust a director
right now do it do it do it do you still
put put out your monthly jewelry box
articles yes and and I’ve gotten a
little unlucky
I’ve been a little unlovely but can you
believe that’s almost been priced 17 or
18 years that I have done these jewelry
box art and everything matters if people
are interested in getting that email
from you they can’t go to going beyond
calm yeah right on the homepage there’s
a place where they can sign up I don’t
know if it’s right on the homepage but
underneath connect uh-huh and you’ll see
the jewelry box or a box if you read the
jewelry box article there’s a place
there if you want to just get them in
your mail box so you guys have been
reading her books you’ve been doing the
Bible studies you’ve now been watching
her new lives about all kinds of things
including hair but also yeah I
discovered insta live I’m not a very
technologically advanced person so when
I discover something I’m like called
instantly I don’t know what does it call
mr. Graham life I just think it’s to
story it’s just a Alliance to story
oh is it I’ve been saying insta like
okay a live in so live insta story okay
that’s what I’ll say from now thank you
for helping yeah that’s what I do
I’m the geeky person in our finish she
knows all things technology and I’m so
over living so okay so all the things
but you’ve also been watching Priscilla
in two movies I could say movies because
there are two that are out so now I was
about to be three rice now she has been
in movies an overcomer comes up August
the 23rd it does why should we go see it
I mean apart from good film like why
this movie
yeah I’m several reasons number one you
need a night where you go get some hot
buttery salty popcorn and a soda with a
few thoughts her popcorn I mean yes it
is saturation it’s a situation and I
will this is what I did the other night
because me and shondrea snuck off to the
movies
women yep my friend should enjoy our
friendships the problem with this
statement I know we snuck but this is
the thing no I did call you you know why
you know why shondrea was over here and
laying on the sofa while I was doing
interviews all day and then an interview
got cancelled and we looked at our watch
and in ten minutes
Toy Story 4 was going to start and Jude
was here so we just jumped in the car
with Jude and in ten minutes we went to
the theater and saw a movie
we couldn’t apology she’s
explaining it because we couldn’t have
called you the movie started in 10
minutes you want to sign up find out why
we’re on camera you left me I didn’t
leave you out that’s not that that’s not
the person anyway hot buttered popcorn
you need a night right you need an
excuse there are not enough films that
you can just go and relax enough eat
like there’s no nobody’s gonna blow
anybody up or anything like that that
has its place it’s not superhero kind of
thing it’s just a good sort of
family-friendly movie you can bring your
family if you want to or uses a
girlfriend or your sister and you can go
in you there’s a reason now for you to
go to the theater on the weekend of
August way there so that’s one of the
reasons why cuz you need a good movie
everything yeah yeah good good listen I
will wait till they pop new popcorn it’s
a thing for me it’s my favorite snack
yeah she she used to also get popcorn
from Target on her way to the theater
because that particular theater didn’t
have good hot buttery popcorn
so she y’all had time so hot do you know
that they’re getting rid of all the
conditions I know and I’m very upset
about it
but there’s still one the one that’s
down the street for me the Super Target
they they’re gonna have it I think they
said they’re gonna keep it cuz it’s
popcorn I raised my kids on hot corner
Slurpees going to target go into target
you would walk around target with
popcorn in your hand but there are
reasons besides popcorn it goes yeah a
movie so over come on first of all 20
years ago even ten years ago saying I’m
gonna go see a faith-based film made you
cringe a little bit yeah cuz it was kind
of corny they were for real corny
there were corny we certainly wouldn’t
take an unsafe friend yeah it was like
David against Christianity at all things
fun and enjoyable granted the technical
excellence almost couldn’t be there
because there weren’t the dollars they
have two subjects money yeah so we live
in it we happen to live in this
resurgence of what it means to be a
faith-based film it’s a beautiful time
because we’ve got these films that
unapologetic gospel films I mean they’re
not watering down the name of Jesus and
overcomer you’ll see my character lead
somebody to the Lord I’m talking to the
whole the whole gospel the whole gospel
that Jesus is literally wearing step
right there
that happens in this film and you’ve got
a production company like Sony that has
thrown I think they I think this one was
three million or four million dollars to
make so you’ve got all these dollars
which means you’re gonna see a movie
that’s technically excellent that looks
good that you don’t mind taking your
friends to and then as a believer you’re
gonna be grateful for the fact that it’s
not a sugar-coated gospel and then the
story is just good you’re gonna cry
you’re gonna laugh just like in war room
like people just enjoyed war where they
can enjoy – miss Clara you don’t
understand yet so you’ll enjoy this film
and then you really will come away with
come away like with Warren you’ll come
away asking yourself questions about
your life and the way you’re navigating
the theme of this movie which is
identity is your identity your value
wrapped up in something that can be
taken away from you so you see these
characters their stories converge in a
beautiful kind of surprising way that
really does not only draw you into the
story of the movie but it’s got you
thinking you know what is my
significance wrapped up and tied up to
something temporal because that stuff
man success is up one day and gone
tomorrow if you want the approval of
people on Instagram and you’re depending
on whether or not you get this many
likes man you will live in a constant
state of like a hamster on a wheel never
arriving to this place of settled nests
so this question will make you ask where
does your identity lie who have you
allowed or what have you allowed to
define you and routing it back firmly in
something that doesn’t change and that’s
Ephesians one and two you are who guts
as you are and going back there discover
him what he says about you and then
beginning to live in light of that not
based in the fear and insecurity and all
those things that you know crippled us
so I mean you were kind of talking about
the question I wanted to ask you which
is you said it will it will cause you to
ask where is my identity rooted yeah so
what has been your answer to that
question maybe in seasons where it
hasn’t been as firmly rooted or has it
been have you had seasons where it
wasn’t behind if you know me
I made enough
maybe they’re just trying to answer the
question maybe one of those is like that
for you yes well I look back
particularly I can talk about things
right now actually in my life this
week’s still growing in struggling yeah
always yeah
again this but I can look back to my
early 20s in particular and there were
relationships I allowed and when I look
back on why I allowed them it was
because my significance was tied to my
approval in this group of people right
here more this guy right here so I made
choices man I I the whole reason I was
in the relationship was because I was
wound up and feeling significant because
you liked me mm-hmm
now looking back on it I realize that if
I would have known
I’m already accepted I’m accepted period
I’m valuable I’m chosen I’ve been
adopted into the family of God but it
literally makes you stop choosing things
that say something different yeah yes
say something different and you stop
choosing things to validate you because
I don’t actually need your validation it
means I can actually choose things that
I want that I really actually want and
that really are healthy for me because
I’m choosing them from a place of of
significance and not a place of it but
you say you say well I didn’t know or
will you know but we’ve been raised you
know right so how do you explain the
disconnect that happened for you that
happens for many of us that either were
raised in Christian homes raised in
church or maybe we weren’t but we’ve
done enough Bible studies to understand
it did it but it’s not that’s not
flowing it’s not altering down to
decisions all I can say is we live in
the world what what does it mean I mean
we live in a place that is constantly
tugging us in the opposite direction
that that’s all I can say it’s like now
it’s even worse with social with social
media but our teenagers now we’re
telling them all the time you and I we
all the time where I throw actively
we’re speak God’s affirmations over them
we tell them who they are they’re men of
integrity Darren OSA but then they live
in the world they’re it’s possibly
telling them they’re not enough so when
I click goes like this and away from
them and makes fun of them for being
Integris in some area or choosing not to
look at that or whatever
any takers women click goes away and
they feel that the aim or not being in
that click well then that tugs on
something in them and they may falter
for a little while trying to gain the
approval of that particular click or
that girl that God forbid you know our
boys lay their heart on the line for
some girl and she’s interested in our
boy see two moms in boys with these
little girls anyway that’s that they’re
a little forward they are a lot forward
so when one of them know it you might
break my son’s heart yeah that makes a
son who was secure
yeah all of a sudden feel a sense of
wait a minute wait a minute so I think
it’s just we live in the world yeah we
live in the world until we get caught up
sometimes I have you know we get caught
up I mean even recently you’re gonna
laugh we even bringing us out but even
recently well last year this time
something I said from three years ago
was completely McKinley’s you as a
community to the street yeah I’m gonna
say what it is but three years ago I was
giving a message on the armour of God
one little smidgen of it was about how
its believers we have to have art we
have to be anchored in the truth of God
because that’s the first piece of armor
at the truth and so as believers we
can’t like mold the truth to suit our
demographic and what makes us
comfortable right so as a point of
illustration I said I do not define
myself as a black woman i define myself
as a Christian woman who is black
meaning that Christianity needs to be
the major adjective debt that defines my
life Christianity has seen in his word
not morphed to suit a demographic I did
not intend to say I’m not a black woman
listen
tend to say that what I intended by cell
in the moment in fact we can’t define
our self as black Christians or white
Christians or Hispanic which is or
Republican or democratic Christians like
I said anything when I misspoke and said
black woman this is three years ago so
somewhat it she said it yes right so the
people that were at that local church
that they didn’t misunderstand me
because they they number one they know
me at that children teach me we’ve had
these conversations but number two they
heard the whole the greater time – so
somebody took that 90 seconds out of the
cut out of context kind of posted it and
said priscilla shirer says she’s not
black woman so what is it oh they came
from me and then and it mess with you oh
but that’s my point that I get it messed
with so they the black community I mean
I was posted across major urban news
media big picture war room after says
she’s not a black woman and in this age
when we’re affirming each other in our
culture man people came for me
mercilessly and she was looking just
like that I didn’t even know what they
were talking about I had to go back and
look at this this little 90 seconds out
of an hour-long message where admittedly
I could have been more articulate but
the point is I I believe that the Lord
allowed that to happen there could be
many layers of reasons that I don’t even
know but the one reason I know for me is
because it allowed me to see how deeply
I was hurt at the rejection of this
group of people that I belong to yeah I
didn’t even realize that my significance
was too tightly wound up and whether or
not I was approved of that command
accepted by and accepted by yeah I
didn’t I didn’t know it I don’t even
know it
I think sometimes yeah it tells us
nothing stripped away then a job is gone
back is gone the the relationship is
gone that you realize your reaction
shows you mm-hmm where you’re where
you’re really where there’s a hole
that’s a hole yeah and so there’s
nothing wrong with me being accepted by
any community great I’m so grateful but
when it’s taken away am i okay listen
because she was walking around for weeks
how about y’all and it’s okay you know
the thing is I had several older I would
love to say women but a man as well in
the faith leaders who called me yes I
was so grateful they called me and they
said we want you to know we know we know
who you are I mean it could make me cry
thinking about it but the phone would
ring and someone would call and just say
I want you to know we know you mm-hmm we
see you one woman went Suzy Owens come
back for Suzy Owens went on and on she
said we see you in your melanin skin
yeah we see you with your natural hair
we see you as you have a fully for 20
years spoken identity and significance
to women of all demographics and
backgrounds telling them to appreciate
the skin guff with them in we see you we
know who you are don’t let the naysayers
of a 90 second clip disrupt the past 20
years of what got into you absolutely
and stuff like that when you have people
that come alongside of you and go girl
don’t don’t even wear them right right
because it’s when you’re in the midst of
controversy like that because I’m not in
the media like that that’s not something
that’s normal we don’t have a publicist
hot no all the posters I’m not in that
you don’t have a everyday silent no no
no ever
let’s just break the break look that so
when you’re in that kind of thing like
that it feels like it’s the whole world
yeah but it’s not it’s not but it means
that what it feels that way just like it
would feel that way if a young woman
broke our son’s heart that’s right it
feels all world yeah but it’s the same
thing
well you black we know your life and you
have wonderful thank you natural thick
juicy hair and everybody’s always
wanting to talk about I know but I
always have to tell her when you talk
about your hair just make sure you tell
people and she does that whatever you
had when you were a little girl that’s
what you’re gone that’s what she because
we listen we look at other people’s hair
on Instagram and go au natural it’s
gonna look like that or when I use that
product or when I go to that hairdresser
or when I take this vitamin and you need
to look at you at your pitches whatever
your pigtails look like what you were
six they say only being a redo of that
it’s gonna be redo this it’s gonna be
redoing there are different ways to
style it yes but the texture you had
then you know it might have shipped out
a little bit with age and stuff but
generally speaking it’s the texture
you’re gonna have now yeah yeah that’s
so good
and I love your honesty about that and I
think what you said which is we all have
holes and we are not aware of them until
something is shipped away we don’t
realize that we’re naked in that area
until it’s uncovered that’s right we
just don’t even know and I think that’s
partly why the Lord allowed that for me
here on how it was right after I had
finished filming a movie on identity and
I was just crafted that’s right he
needed he done it again thinking and
writing about that and the Lord allowed
this blow up to show me in my own life
yeah where my significance was not
following religion
well one thing – you said that you know
people called you and said we know who
you are
and when you talk about the bottle of
visions one and two God always knows who
we are so I can hear somebody saying oh
I wish I had people to do to my life
like that I wish somebody would call me
and tell me that they knew who I am or
to encourage me when I’m struggling yeah
but that’s why it’s so important to read
God’s Word for yourself and to wash
mind and renew your mind Romans 12 says
in the word because ultimately God knows
who you are he knows who you are now and
he knows who he intended for you to be
so even beyond loving people who speak
into your life read God’s Word and keep
washing yourself with the word until you
believe what he says about you and I can
tell you honestly a great place to start
because Olivia Brooks in the movie tells
Hannah little 15 year old Hannah she
says I want you to do me a favor I want
you to open up your Bible to Ephesians 1
and to just read it and write down
everything it says you are now is this
because you list it it’s listed it’s
just an ego things like you’re adopted
you are chosen you are holy you are
blameless maybe just all around and then
you post it somewhere like where you’re
gonna see it maybe you make photocopies
and post it a lot of somewheres and then
you keep seeing it over and over and you
start making choices that line up with
this like you might not feel chosen but
you start making decisions like someone
who is if Bibles are your feelings line
up yeah so that means before I delete
this is this a person that’s secure and
significant or am I trying to insert
myself into a conversation that’s not
even my conversation just so I could be
a part of something yeah I can’t tell
you how many times they might cost and
talk to me yeah times you text me girl
girl because because if we do need a
check we need shiny to check and we need
a reminder
first thing God’s word for family for
friends who love us to say is this is
this Who I am is this Who I am
or Emma as this insecurity poking at
10:01 fear beyond its head up yeah or
ego poking its head up you know one of
my love languages that I’m a gift giver
crystal will tell you this I was loved
best gifts I love giving gifts even more
than getting them I just like to come up
with a good monogrammed I thought of you
personal and been great about it yeah so
I give gifts you’re a good gift giver to
those by the way you’ve all wrong you
could talk like on tap like I have to it
has to come I can’t but I had to start
there were there were several times with
a Holy Spirit paying my heart
when I tried to figure out what was the
ping about why was I giving the gift why
were you giving the gift to impress it
wasn’t just a pure I want to bless that
person there was something wrapped up in
it that was impure it was my desire in
some way to impress you or to receive
your approval mm-hmm so then what I had
to do then when I recognized that was
resist the urge to give the gift you
don’t know so don’t that I don’t want to
meet you know I mean how do you know the
difference then between the urge to give
the gift out of a need for approval
because I am it to you without I don’t
need anything from you I don’t want
anything back I’m not giving it in hopes
of so you just pause to see what your
yeah one of a champagne yes when I felt
that ping with those particular gifts
with the other particular people why
Lord why is there even a pin here mmm
Holy Spirit yeah just pausing long
enough to go what what was that about
and then just sitting with the Lord long
enough for him to just say just to feel
that I’m doing this because I hope they
like me you know yeah and that’s not I’m
like I’m already locked I’m gonna
already love oh I’m not gonna feed this
part of my flesh by giving the gift here
that doesn’t mean I don’t give the gift
other places it means not here because
here I’m only doing it because I hope
you like me so you wrote a whole book
about identity one of the things that
cuz we did a quick live before we jumped
on and did I record eight is a lot of
women were like so is this book really
for young women because you everybody’s
like your solo shower has a book out so
whose listen our Bible study is waiting
for the net so who is this book for and
who was the by what is the book who is
it for and is there a Bible study that
goes with it
okay so this one right here this is the
first copy I just got my hand my feeling
yeah it’s the cat
maybe when you you just have a baby and
you kind of look at it and you think oh
how pretty and then you have like
postpartum like is this it you
automatically see mistakes and things
like that but anyway I’m very excited
about this book so the main character in
the film is a young woman so our goal
was to write something hopefully that
young women would be attracted to it’s
define young women if you’re gonna say
who this is for
can I be honest with you and say this is
a struggle with me and the publisher
because they wanted to write teen girls
on here which they have for teen girls
but when my 17 year old friends your
teen girl that’s not them
yeah that’s their 12 year old says I
wrote right so I had to talk to him
about that they are already seeing
themselves as young women by the time
they get to 17 and 18 yeah yeah so in
the Bible study that we also did we had
people at the table that were eighth
grade in the conversation with us for
the video recording but also some 22
year olds that graduated from college
and that lent their wisdom but also the
struggles they’re currently having with
identity so that being said I will I
wanted us to write for the subtitle for
young women and the young at heart
because what I wrote here applies to me
right I’m 45 but I was like I needed to
hear this from the scriptures so I will
tell you what separates okay so to
answer your question yes somebody who’s
15 who is 17 I think they can handle I
think they can handle it I wrote it to a
short chapter so that someone who’s
younger won’t feel overwhelmed I thought
about those sorts of things I also wrote
it peppered with personal stories from
my teen years in early 20s so that it’s
not just like hit you in the face with a
bunch of Scripture without sort of just
drawing you in with story so it’s real
friendly and it’s personal and I did
that intentional so that a young reader
will feel connected to it but at the
same time I think women that are well
into the 30s and 40s are just going to
enjoy the read mhm that they’re
going to be a and this is doable I see
this right here yeah this is doing well
short chapters and I feel like I can
actually yeah the thoughts not real
small there’s space on the page so in
that way it’s for a teenager but the
content is even for all of us I just
flipped open to page 45 it says why not
just be your god honoring self now why
wait for what seriously what are you
waiting what are you waiting listen I
wrote um I’m real excited about this one
chapter in the book let me show you
crystal in the table of contents no it’s
dedicated to winter look at chapter 3
it’s called a hair straight air story
and then a parenthesis what’s your story
and the point of chapter 3 is I’m
talking about our physical uniqueness
and how sometimes we just don’t like the
way God created us so I was in high
school and you know I as all of us did
in the 1990s if you were a black girl
your hair was relaxed your hair was
straight and chemically and I wanted
that because I wanted my hair to be long
and straight like that just like that
yes I wanted it to be like that because
I was a cheerleader and most of the
cheerleaders actually I was the only
black cheerleader for a while and what
am i her to do like that hair and I
wanted my hips to be in a more narrow
like theirs and my nose to be more
narrow like theirs I didn’t like my
appearance because it was different than
then you know sameness is celebrated if
you’re not the same then you’re a little
oddball out and I didn’t want that in
but I spent you know a decade damaging
my hair with the chemicals mm-hmm it
might not damage everybody here but it
did mine you’re right so I got to 24
cut it off and it’s one of the best
decisions that I ever made to just
accept the way my own hair grew out of
my own head and so that was my story but
like I said I titled this chapter with
parentheses what’s your story
yes everybody’s got some about their
body but if they prefer to be different
but here’s the thing these movies came
along and these directors and writers
and producers needed someone then look
like me but if I had been created to
look differently I wouldn’t have been
able to be used at least in
way in this unique way to do what God is
asking me to do so I’ve been so grateful
because I realize now that every part of
our uniqueness that’s the color of the
skin wearing the texture of the hair we
have the weight the width of our hips
the narrowness of all that stuff God had
in mind something that he could only
reflect up himself through the
uniqueness of the way he created even
you are you are a complete opportunity a
complete package to reflect the creative
genius of God in a spectacular way if
you just relax it gonna be you you just
go on and relax and have your hair and
have your height and celebrate your skin
color and all of that stuff and God will
reflect his greatness through you in a
way you cannot even imagine see right
there on YouTube right there you just
take your take you little mouse and just
zip back about 25 30 seconds and listen
to that again oh you were like in slow
mode Oh like the words were coming out
he wanted to speak remote is really good
yeah so I mean I want to come back to
this but kind of what you’re talking
about
you just said you know God has created
you to be you and people ask us all the
time so do y’all compare yourselves to
each other and I think that for a long
time well I think we did in certain ways
but I think it was a lot less because
while we were both mothering and while
we were there was a lot of differences
in what we were doing yeah I think it’s
probably increased more in the last 10
years just because life we’re doing a
lot of more things similarly that’s not
my story that’s what what is your story
my story is I’ve spent most of my life
particularly up through I would say 2530
wanting to compare myself to my older
sister she’s my older sister so she
knows me she was loved me but crystal
was you know named crystal meaning she’s
the light and everyone I’ve ever
lit up because crystal was there but
she’s smart she’s without trying she’s
smart like she made aids and didn’t
really study but she liked to study who
likes to study she was a reader she was
the one that always sort of was the good
one did things the way they were sitting
around good that’s great it was crystal
crystal had this hair that cascaded and
curls she never still to this day I mean
maybe once a year she gets one little
pimple somewhere random I was the
opposite of all of that so I had acne
all over my face my hair struggled the
whole time that I was growing up I was a
little bit of a rebellious person so I
had that streak through me I had to
study really hard to try to make a B so
I have spent most of my upbringing yeah
going why can’t I just be like my sister
and then and then I spent mostly right
no because here’s the thing with persona
there are a lot of things that have come
easy to me but easy is not how you get
things done Priscilla to this day is a
doer if she decides to do something like
if you’re thinking about it you better
tell her that because it’ll be done in
five minutes she’s she gets things done
and when she started out in her life
everything that she’s set out to do she
did it and she did it with flying colors
like you remember being in high school
you were on that gymnastics team yeah
and I remember you struggling being the
only black girl and not being invited to
some things because of that but because
of you and our mother yeah mommy would
not let me who was like oh no no you
will not
we invited we are going ahead but I mean
you just kind of I’m supposed to be here
yeah you’ve shown up to your life that
way over and over again you’re like you
know what if I want to do it if God is
give me a passion to do it if God has
opened a door for me to do it you know
what I’ll do it and I sit back and think
about it and stuff the guy alkylated and
you don’t get prepared and now I’m
looking for suppose alright it’s been
five years she didn’t hire so I mean
there’s a lot of things and then she’s
very varied because she was a gymnast
and because she was a dancer and all
these different things I know you hired
her no no you know I wasn’t a dancer I
wasn’t truly cheerleader okay all that
look just just stretch your arm out like
this
just just I mean connect it yes it’s
still it’s still there she can still do
a back handspring meal nothing and I
don’t do it cause um my back so she’s
beautiful she’s a wonderful gift giver
and high hospitality you come to my
house she get paper plates you come to
her house you get China I mean so
there’s a lot of things as adults I’m
like man look how far and fast she’s
going like I was yes and then I was
feeling somebody else I was like in fact
I said it’s a day just yesterday I said
I feel like Priscilla has had 20 years
to build this ministry and build a
message and she doesn’t really stress or
strive and life circumstances have
allowed me to do I always wanted to
write but later and I feel like I have
to I have to war against feeling like I
have to play catch-up not just to you
right in general in life but my own
sister is very far ahead so I’d be lying
if I said but every now and I don’t flip
over to your Instagram and go okay at
least I’m keeping 10% of the followers
she has
no but I’m gonna say like that’s just
real so I have to like present-day real
time say to myself like this is what
matters about me like I say you know
what and we do that for each other yeah
she says to me all the time Krystal but
you’re so practical like you’re you’re
so practical seriously there is a there
is a style of teaching that it’s harder
for me to get to I try to get to it
scripture has to be applicational
otherwise we’ve wasted a whole hour if
we’re not gonna talk about what I’m
supposed to do
I’m as a listener that’s very easy for
you you’re able to talk about
theologically sound doctrine from
Scripture and then you’re able to say
Kara let me tell you how this works in
your real life you are so good at one
home one discipleship in practicality
and the nuances of digging into your
business and making sure that the truth
of God comes to bear in your regular
business that right there is to me I
don’t want to say more important than an
hour-long message I want to say either
is more important I’m just saying that’s
necessary and and it’s clean print and
it meets different needs at different
places and different seasons of whole
life so we as sisters have the
opportunity and the gift that you have
with your sisters your real sisters your
place sisters your friends your sisters
in Christ to tell them what you see in
them to call out what you see that is
blessed and chosen and wonderful and
delightful to God about the person
that’s sitting next to you even if it’s
a person you don’t know very well we
have to do that as women and call out
even though we gotta look at what God
says about us it’s good for us to call
out the good in our sisters because
sometimes we don’t see that mm-hmm
you know we don’t we don’t see it we
don’t see it so is this about study you
know radiant a Bible so ready and it’s
not a Bible study this is a chapter book
I’m one chapter after the other short
chapters I saw your digestive and then
we have a Bible study Oh
Bible study is called defined I don’t
even have a copy of the buys that for
young women in teams – and that’s for
anybody but I say young women are the
young at heart because here’s why define
is
Ephesians chapter 1 and 2 what does it
say you are and what does it say you
have as a believer so that you can start
living in light of that truth so anybody
that wants to really have a reframing of
the perspective or a reorientation and
introduction to your identity in Christ
I think that it’ll be a valuable tool no
matter your age really mm-hmm yeah and
we if you’ve never just read through
Ephesians 1 in chapter 2 let this be
your opportunity to do that but you know
with a buffer with story and with
encouragement to fill in some of the
blanks but literally if you read it it’s
there God says here’s what I think about
you and this is a great tool for doing
this if you’re young at heart if you’re
a young woman or if you even have teen
daughters so many people say with their
children teen girls or boys that they
just want a tool they just want a tool
something this is a tool and I used to
take cares when she was a teenager
anything that I wanted her to do with me
that she didn’t want to do we’d have a
date we’d go to Starbucks or that we’d
go to see you very left out you used to
go to Barnes & Noble we use to go to
Barnes & Noble’s we used to go to Red
Robin we’d go to Red Robin and get a
shake and then she was like putty in my
hands
yeah take your teen out on a date and
say hey let’s read this together and
again it’s an easy it’s an easy read
yeah if there was one thought that you
would leave with women who have been
watching this or may have been watching
this already watch this about identity
in Christ
yeah and how it changes the game mm-hmm
I would say this you are not the way you
feel hmm you are not your past behavior
or your current behavior you are not
what other people have said about you
what your mama called you your daddy
called you you’re not even what you call
yourself yeah you you are not your
inclinations like you’re bent that way
you have a tendency toward that
lifestyle or that
we had addiction or that sin you are not
your struggle just because you have a
struggle doesn’t make you less than
those things might be a part of your
being and a part of your life and a part
of your story and you may have to work
through them and I’m not minimizing the
pain of some of the hurt that you may
have experienced but you are not what
you have done nor are you what has been
done to you
mmm you are who God says you are Point
Blank period so you have to separate all
of those nuances of your reality from
the truth you do not have to live like
this you don’t have to live from this
place you have to work through it but
you can make decisions choose
relationships choose your reactions your
responses chart your future based on the
truth of who God says you are and what
you have in Kim without letting all of
this ruined the entirety of your life
mmm
why the title radiant you know radiant
because there was this beautiful portion
of Scripture I have it right here at the
top of the book it is Psalm 34 5 those
who look to him are radiant their faces
are never covered with shame and there
is an illustration in this book of to
Daddy’s Church where they’ve got these
stained-glass windows that line the side
of his church it’s a real old-school
little teeny narrow church and I’m
sitting in in the church one day we’re
visiting this sunlight spilling through
this stained glass window and you know
it makes this design and as the Sun
moves the design shifts and changes
across our laps as we’re sitting there
on the wooden pew into Denny’s Church
and I thought that’s what we are we are
each these unique stained-glass windows
all the nuances of them were intended
the nuances of our physicality of our
personality even the cracks so even the
weaknesses they still reflect that light
a certain beautiful way that I wouldn’t
see the light that way unless it was
filtered through that particular stained
glass so it’s just saying that you are a
radiant reflection and expression of the
light of God to the world yeah let his
light shine through you whoever created
you the real you yeah whoever he’s
created you to be uniquely
you’ve been created let him shine
through you no reason to hide I love
this and I can’t wait to see overcomer I
can’t wait for you to see it to see the
movies again I didn’t get to walk
through this one but that’s okay I’ll
get my popcorn with you oh I will get
hot popcorn is salty hot salty popcorn
and opening weekend we need to go show
up at theaters remember we did that with
warrior yes we went to one thing over
there right we did a little while just
to see what people’s reactions were then
we left that theater drove to another
here too and we waited until it was over
me and Alina
Elena’s our she’s our niece ish family
and we stood there and waited for people
to come out of the theater and they
could have looked at him like is that is
that huh now we’ve got to greet a bunch
of fella so we’re gonna do that again
because that was bad that is really fun
to kind of just see what people’s
reactions are not the movie but I’ll say
this in closing Willie you gotta go
opening weekend in can okay important
production companies they decide how
long a movie is going to be in the
theater and they also decide whether or
not to open it up in more theaters they
decide that based off the opening
weekend notice that’s all that matters
so I do encourage you to see that
because these Jesus honoring
christ-centered films they need to
continue and the dollars will be there
the distribution will be there as long
as we show up so show up show up for
your life so after your life
look in the mail by the way I love it
about that too so show up for your life
at the movie theatres about on August
the 23rd to see overcomers and get your
friends and family to go with you
let’s show up and make sure that
Hollywood knows these are the kinds of
films that you want and let’s make sure
if you’re still a Shire knows that we
want her to keep hey y’all I hope you
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