Is grace a license to sin? What is the Bible’s definition of true repentance? How can believers live right each day?
Find out the answers to these burning questions and more in this exclusive interview of Joseph Prince on TBN’s Praise The Lord Program. Hosted by Pastor Phil Munsey, Joseph was accompanied by his wife Wendy, and Pastor Joel Osteen—of Lakewood Church, America’s largest church—and his wife Victoria.
Not only will you be encouraged and inspired by Joseph’s insightful and heartfelt sharing in this interview, but you will also gain a better understanding of how a revelation of God’s grace and goodness is His chosen way of gloriously transforming lives, and allowing His people to have a loving relationship with Him.
Finally, receive and be tremendously blessed by the prayer that Joseph prays at the close of his first-ever interview in the United States.
from New York City
our masters at Lakewood Church Joel and
Victoria Osteen senior pastor and
president of Joseph Prince ministries
Joseph and windy Prince Grammy
award-winning worship leader is real
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now you’re home
give a warm welcome for a wonderful man
who got his wife pastor Joseph and Wendy
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all right over here premier fantastic
come on wow what a joy well your love
brother yeah yeah what a privilege to be
here well I I’m just thrilled to be here
tonight to be with with these two great
voices of the hope and grace that God is
broad and I want to start with you first
of all it is an honor to have you in
America and we we sincerely are thankful
for the message you are
but I want to tell you personally and I
know I speak on behalf of hundreds if
not thousands of pastors the influence
of your teaching is trickling down
throughout the whole body of Christ and
making incredible and Wendy we all
wanted to see you because we never get
to see you and just real quickly I what
what happened and when did it happen
that God has taken you and just brought
you into this place to where you’re
carrying such a mandate upon your life
to release this message
well first feel it’s a joy to be here
and to be all of you finally get to meet
our TV audience face to face and it’s
one thing to have you know God you
gather the people together
yeah it’s nothing they have the same
spirit the benjamine generation having
the same mother we have the same
heavenly father and the same mother
grace amen
and our mother is not law and it’s one
thing to have everyone gather together
under the same roof yeah and Joe’s
ministry is also a ministry that
ministers righteousness you know in 2nd
Corinthians 3 he tells us in verse 9 if
the Ministry of condemnation had glory
now there were some glory in all those
past revivals like Finney where they
will elucidate man’s sins and they were
preached Hellfire and brimstone until
you know you feel like the fire of hell
is burning up your posterior and yet
I’ve come running to the front to repent
and all that and the Bible tells us that
Ministry of condemnation had glory mmm
we’re not taking anything away from that
yeah now if the Ministry of condemnation
had glory how much more the ministry of
righteousness were exceeding loud
we ain’t seen nothing yet we have not
passed this way before God is raising
ministers of righteousness that are
positive I like you know Joel’s message
she gets right to the point he gives you
hope again a positive expectation of
good where we we you know and and
sometimes people have people have met
something so complicated like holiness
for example you know until we are so
fearful of God when actually if you read
the Bible you find that the first two
groups of people that go into the lake
of fire are the fearful and unbelieving
and here you have a man preaching people
out of fear and unbelief yeah come on
yeah the Bible tells us whatever is not
of faith is sin so we should judge the
doctrine and ministries by the fruits
yeah they produce yeah we can preach
help fire and brimstone and preach
against sin all we want and many times
preachers that preach strongly against
sin are struggling with sin themselves
hmm if the truth was known and and just
you know looking at Joel and the way he
loved his family and he’s a he’s a very
humble man no matter man more humble
than Joe yeah both of you have
experienced something I think is so
supernatural the way you were both
thrust into such a demanding role on
this side Joel and Victoria have have
been so used of God to bring the message
of hope and certainly has have we have
discussed that this country really in
many ways has lost its faith and the
only way to get people back to faith is
to give them hope hope is always faith
is the substance of things hoped for so
when people are able to hope again and
have hope then faith draws them in and
that’s what I love about you know and
then you know even though this is all
about Jesus certainly the revelation of
grace the unveiling of grace is so
crucial just briefly as we get ready to
hear another song but what has been your
take on on what Hope has done between
the two of you what is it that
see when you’re out there touching the
people when you the response to hope has
been what
well people people just respond when you
speak to them that the seeds that God
has placed on the inside when you know I
always tell people feel people have been
beaten down by enough in life is enough
pushing them down when they come into
our churches or when when they hear my
message I want to do something to lift
them up and tell them that they can you
know they can dream again or they can
become who God has created them to be
and so there’s just something you know
Joseph and I we were talking about last
night that the scripture says it’s the
goodness of God that leads people to
repentance and sometimes you know we
think well if we just you know tell them
how bad they are long enough they want
to repent but you know what we tell
people that you know what god is good
he’s on your side and had a great plan
that if you’ve made mistakes you can
still get to where God wants you to be
God can restore you I think that’s why
to fill about half the people that watch
our ministry don’t go to church they
weren’t raised like us they were you
know either unchurched or maybe they
went to church at one time but you know
when you when when people hear that God
is for them that he’s on their side and
some of these people you know they tell
me Joe I’m not religious I don’t even
know anything about this but there’s
just something that comes alive on the
inside well that’s that’s the seeds that
God’s placed on the inside and sometimes
you just got to speak that faith to to
get that seed lit so we just seen people
all over the world respond to it you
know Phil it’s interesting because
people feel like God’s mad at them you
know they feel like you know I have to
work to make God proud of me I have to
work to get a reward from God and the
truth is is that God loves us just the
way we are yeah nothing comes to
surprise you know God’s not surprised at
what’s happened to us but we just need
to look to God you know instead of
trying to work to God we just need to
realize that all we have to do is look
to God and you know it’s interesting
because people are just bound up because
they feel like that God doesn’t have his
arms stretched out to them and he does
and so it will just release what’s in
our hand and just stretch our arms out
to God it’s amazing the freedom that
from that and you know what we say is is
so big that’s what we try to tell people
you know you just got it you just got a
release your past and just look to God
and and he’ll free you and he will he’ll
just he loves you I think that’s the
biggest thing it’s hard to believe how
could God love me yeah you know look at
all these people or look what I’ve done
how did they even know because he
created each one of us and the scripture
says he knew us before we were formed in
our mother’s womb and he already
approved us yeah and that’s the amazing
thing that I don’t have to find my
approval for men and I think we know
well here that you just simply believe
it aren’t you’re loved by Almighty God
yeah is a hope right there you’re
kidding I’m loved unconditionally yeah
yeah I’m daddy’s yeah and that’s you
know what are you experiencing with this
you know and I’m going to come back in a
few moments and talk about you know just
what turned it for you what what
paradigm shift happened to you that
released you to do this but you’re
getting the same kind of response aren’t
you people need and and want you know
the what repentance like Joel said is
from the Greek word Metanoia which
literally means change your mind and
every time like Joe made preaching the
word without using the word repentance
sometimes but people’s minds are being
changed all the time from thinking this
way negatively to thinking positively
from depression to having a positive
expectation of good you know repentance
is going on all the time in Joel’s
church in my church and hopefully in
your church as well and you don’t have
to have this brass beating shell oh
Jesus Jesus you can come down to the
open call and cry your eyeballs out and
go away the same yeah because you have
not heard something that it cost you to
change your mind
alright so it’s a goodness of God that
leads us to repentance under the Old
Covenant you have to repent first before
God blesses you but under the under
grace the New Covenant is the goodness
of God that leads one to repentance when
Peter you know his first encounter with
Jesus she said let’s go fishing right
and he caught a net breaking boat
sinking lot of fishers
all right and he realized who the man
was in front of him he fell at Jesus
feet and said depart from me I’m a
sinful man now question which one came
first mmm his repentance are God’s
goodness Wow Wow there’s a goodness of
God that leads us to repentance now
here’s what I’m gonna do first of all I
want to say a Victorian drill thank you
we love you we’re praying for night of
hopes that happen every month we’re
proud of what God is doing in your life
and I want to say to you Pastor I’m
going to bring pastor Joseph Prince back
in just a few moments Israel’s going to
come and sing a song speechless and
we’ll be coming back and speaking some
more about what God is doing let’s give
it up for a great man of God we all love
Israel always
Oh
Oh God
Oh
Oh
favor
you believe that I’m geez
Oh
you see
Oh
we’ve seen
Oh
I promised you that I’d bring back our
special guest and and here he is I feel
very honored to be able to be here today
to introduce to not to America as far as
his ministry it’s it’s been received
with incredible open heart in and
literally have is his feet on the ground
and and ministering the first interview
that he’s ever done here in the United
States and of course he’s going to be
speaking at Lakewood Church and I’m just
so honored and so grateful for the
message in the mandate that he has from
the Lord would you welcome him again
pastor Joseph
so
I’m a I’m a tweeter salt I love the
tweets you know that for me that’s my
that’s my television ministry I don’t
have one right now so I tweet and
Facebook but today I said this and I
don’t know how you’ll take this but I
said man I said because we had a few
minutes together and I said this guy’s
the real deal
if you cut him open he bleeds grace and
I actually have a word out to be very
careful when I say it but I I made up a
word called graces and you really have
opened up be careful when you say that
word but I think I like it it’s a clever
word I think about anyway but I just am
so thankful that God and I want to go
back just a little bit because people
that have read your book know the story
how did this happen how did God take
because I know that you know you you
were influenced by a lot of the same
mentors that everyone else had but yet
something unique happened take us back
to that moment and then let’s talk about
this well I’ve been a word of faith
preacher all the years before I
encountered this grace revolution you
know and I remember in 1997 I was just
driving up the Swiss Alps on vacation
with Wendy and she was sound asleep
beside me and I was just minding my own
business enjoying the Swiss Alps you
know the snow and just driving quietly
and I heard the voice of the Lord Nam
careful about saying the voice yeah and
it’s something just in impression but
this was the voice of the Lord on the
inside and he said this to me you’re not
preaching grace hmm that’s it water I’m
a grace man I preached faith I preach
grace he says no he says every time you
preach grace you try to balance it with
the law and therefore you neutralize
grace and I said but Lord is a low blow
what whatever do you mean you know and
he said that unless you preach radical
grace lives will not be radically
transformed Wow
so that mark the journey of grace and I
went back in a study at all I can about
God’s grace and I remember you know
having a word of faith background I’ve
always you know been intrigued by how to
develop your faith and I’ve listened to
all the tapes and I’ve been Hagin eyes
and caps
then you know read all the books in but
one day as I sitting on the floor I
heard something I never heard anyone
teach or preach the Lord spoke to me
again Isis would you like to know the
secret of great faith that’s it of
course you know as then he says the you
know that there are two in the
scriptures that I said had great faith
you know when Jesus was on earth there
were two he mentioned had great faith
one was a Centurion and the other was
that woman of us of Canaan yeah
the son of Phoenician woman and to the
Centurion he says
I’ve not found so great faith no not in
Israel right and to the Canaanite woman
whose daughter was demon-possessed he
says a woman great is your faith so only
two had great faith so he told me this
he said this to me what was their secret
and I said well I know the answer to
that because the Centurion he’s a man of
authority he understood Authority he was
a soldier you know and I had all the
sermons before I just gave him the yah
yah the Panthers today and he says what
about that woman mmm she was a homemaker
nothing could be more different any
states that if you study the common
denominator between these two yeah
you’ll find a secret of great faith yeah
and I studied as much as I can for the
next half an hour on the Centurion and
the woman trying to find a common
denominator one was a man one was a
woman yeah and one was a soldier yeah
there was a homemaker
I mean nothing could be you know for the
pan and after about half an hour my
lightning-fast mind as the Lord Lord you
know I don’t know the answer tell me and
he says both were Gentiles both were
Gentiles and and I’ve never heard anyone
say that and I said what do you mean
Lord is he that they were not law
conscious did even know the Ten
Commandments but they were Jesus
conscious they knew who was standing in
front of him
now if you ask an average believer today
all right what voice faith they probably
give the answer sin Iman sin you know
but if you study the Scriptures it says
if those who are of the law Romans for
those who have the law be heirs faith is
made void and the promise made of no
effect mmm so it is it is the law that
voids faith and makes the promises of
God of no effect
hmm and I’ve never heard that preach
what I hear is that that revival stopped
because of sin
now if sin can stop because of revival
it would never have begun hmm because
you know revival happens where there is
sin and where sin increased grace super
abounds yeah I’ll tell you why revival
stopped is because man comes in and puts
in their laws and legislations yeah and
they revived the law it kills baby shuts
up faith hmm
so that woman as well as the Centurion
all they were conscious of is how great
Jesus is they were not even conscious
how great their faith was they weren’t
even conscious with your own faith ah
but your conscious were great Jesus and
he turns around says a woman great is
your faith yeah
he sees your faith Wow so that so when
you when you talk about grace I love in
your writings that you don’t really
separate it from Jesus to you and really
I think when the veil is removed right
grace is Jesus Jesus is grace yes and
someone you know that people always talk
about different Jesus well to me when I
read your book I get there’s two
different Jesus’s there’s the Jesus of
grace and then there’s the other one
yes another Jesus that’s the Jesus that
we want to embrace right and why do
people battle with this why is it that
it’s so good I’ve watched this with Joel
and the message of hope and I’m watching
this message when I read your book it’s
just so liberating it just it’s just
like it’s like getting into an ocean and
you’re just like overwhelmed surely
God’s not this good are you kidding me
there’s got to be a hook here there’s
this is extreme what’s your reaction to
people that are that maybe come in
and in with caution and say be careful
that you’re not too extreme with grace
what what are they saying and what is
your reaction Durst and your fears and
many at times when I hear people say
that I’m encouraged because the same
accusations were leveled against the
Apostle Paul hmm and I remember reading
a Martyn lloyd-jones dr. Martin
lloyd-jones the English theologian he’s
passed away now Westminster Abbey
pastor and he said this in his series on
Romans he says how come today we don’t
have the same accusations leveled
against us
there was leveled against Paul hmm they
accused Paul of saying shall be seen
more that grace may abound hmm the
accused Paul of saying that now Palmer’s
had preached radically where sin
increased grace super abounds yeah
he must have preached that strong enough
for them to misunderstand him right all
right then he says this I submit to you
he says that we are not preaching the
same message to Paul is preaching mmm
because if we are preaching the same
gospel the same accusations we level
against us so today when I hear people
accuse me of that
I have rejoiced I’m in good company yeah
yeah man yeah so the ideal that God’s
grace is so abundant that God’s grace is
so much greater than any of our works or
anything that we can do right are wrong
um the first reaction to the mind is
this is too good to be true and are you
saying that we have a license to sin and
you’re actually saying that’s that’s the
entrance to getting how great Grace’s
the Bible is very clear I mean I wonder
sometimes if people can read you know
isn’t the Bible in Romans 6:14 very
clearly says for sin shall not have
dominion over you for you are not under
law but under grace nice when you’re
under grace sin has not the meaning over
you all right so the opposite is true
when you are under law guess what
sin has dominion over you yeah the more
you try not to do something the more you
try the worse it is yeah you should not
be trying to be resting and just trust
the Lord he is
righteousness is your wisdom he’s your
holiness he’s your redemption yeah
just rest from him now the scriptures of
hoteles in Romans 5:17 by one man’s
offense death reigned by one much more
those who receive abundance of grace and
the gift of righteousness will reign in
life hmm by one Jesus Christ now if you
know that these two gives of God the
abundance of grace notice if someone
asks a question can you push too much on
grace it is by the abundance of grace
that you reign onions we need an
abundance of teaching on grace Wow to
receive abundance of grace Wow and when
you receive abundance of grace and the
gift mmm notice is a gift not a reward
yeah the gift of right when you receive
this – guess what your reign in life and
when you reign in life the devil doesn’t
yeah when you reign in life sickness
doesn’t yeah when your reign in life
your evil addictions doesn’t mmm you
know when your reign in life you Rainman
yeah so now it’s if I were the devil
if I were the devil wish it which I’m
not here’s not this good looking but if
I were the devil guess what I’ll attack
I’ll attack these two gifts abundance of
grace and the gift of righteousness ow
and I’ll assassinate the characters of
anyone that preaches on this group so
Joel’s ministry he preaches grace hope
you know righteousness as a gift and and
and and the devil’s job you can always
tell how powerful a truth is by the
number of controversies the devil
gathers around it yeah okay when when
God restored the truth of healing the
devil put a signpost that set heresy
yeah when when God restored the true for
prosperity the devil put us sign poster
says heresy yeah and the church back off
from the truth yeah we should not back
away from the truth no no and you can
tell that how powerful that truth is by
the amount of controversies against the
truth Wow you know the people I think
that one of the biggest challenge that
people have is is that even Christians
and because this teaching hasn’t been
unveiled
and because the traditions of men have
and the fear that if we preach it that
it’s it’s going to give people a license
people actually and many Christians are
actually still carrying condemnation yes
and you know so many Christians when you
talk to them you have this sense that
God has mad at them that they feel
ashamed
they don’t pray because they’re afraid
to get in God’s presence why is that
people actually feel that the debt of
their sin right is still a conditional
you know and I like the way you address
the Lord’s Prayer I mean I love the
Lord’s Prayer but you have the Lord’s
Prayer it has to go through the cross to
get it but there’s actually people that
are actually feeling as if their debts
are still being right you know carried
over them talk to us about this problem
that people have of debt that they feel
awkward around the real problem is sin
consciousness yeah the sin debt on their
conscience and as long as you have a sin
debt on your conscience you always fear
God in a spear and age a slavish fear
when the scripture says in Romans 8 for
you have not received the spirit of
bondage again to fear
yeah that’s fearing God in the Old
Testament way Wow because the word again
is there you have not received the
spirit of bondage again to fear but you
received the spirit by which we cry Abba
Father yeah when I when I was in Israel
I hear little children running you learn
a lot when you go to Israel ah you know
and and there was this playground and
kids were running around shouting
abba-abba-abba
that’s daddy daddy daddy now although I
teach on the names of God Jehovah el
shaddai Elohim wonderful is those names
uh he wants to be known as Abba Dead
yeah and this is pure sonship and and if
you cannot say that you have a slavish
fear of fearing God yeah now what about
the fear of the Lord people ask the
question would you like Jesus definition
of the fear of the Lord yes when he was
tempted in the wilderness
all right the devil came to him and says
fall before me and worship Me and I’ll
give you everything jesus said it is
written thou shalt worship the Lord thy
God and him only shalt thou serve
now if you look at the quotation he was
quoting from Deuteronomy you’ll find in
Deuteronomy says thou shalt fear the
Lord yeah
so Jesus defined the fear of the Lord as
the worship of God oh wow
so it’s a reverence it’s a words yes a
worship of God it is not this the
fearing God like your your snake
something oh yeah yeah talk to me about
this illustration I don’t know if it
came from your book destined to rain
rain are unmerited favor but talk to me
about this analogy of someone who always
some okay suppose I always some money
all right
and I oh that’s the $10,000 you owe to
me yeah yes you do okay all right no
whenever I see you okay I promise to pay
you back in a month’s time okay all
right so then I’m on the end okay it’s
been a mine and and it’s been a month I
tried my best to pay you but I couldn’t
pay you all right so every time I see
you guess what I’ll avoid you all right
because I have debt on my conscience all
right I tried my best to pay but I
couldn’t pay so when I
try to see you I try to avoid being in
the same room with you yeah I try to
avoid you now supposing Joel hears about
my debt yeah all right and let’s just
assume Joel has some money okay all
right
and Joe Joe is in a hurry to you know
have a night of hope in Paris for
example so he’s in the hurry he hears
about my predicament and he says you
know what Joseph owed you or how much
this is ten thousand ten thousand and it
gives you a million dollar check come on
all right is this just a dhikr sisters
yeah just analogy okay go ahead keep on
hoping brother okay but you know there’s
an overpayment Wow
and because he loves me so much he just
wants me to have no debt on my
conscience and to feel free around you
he just blesses you not yet what has
happened here you’ve been enriched yeah
it’s an overpayment yeah now what Joel
did was that he appointed someone one of
his assistants to inform me that my debt
has been paid yeah now how well there
has been communicated to me all right
it’s important if that person come to
say you know it’s something about Joel
paying something your debt you know I’m
not too sure what the details but but
just to be safe on the safe side keep on
paying Phil now it’s a mixed message
Yeah right you bet now what has happened
is that the body of Christ we have not
heard the pure gospel hmm all right
we’re not even let alone not only the
payment but the overpayment they overpay
all right because Jesus payment to God
is much more Wow all right he’s like a 1
million dollar debt for our top $10,000
dear a payment for done and also he’s an
overpayment that’s why the Bible is much
more much much much more much more much
okay so now when I see you let’s say
someone comes a win and communicates
clearly Joseph in the middle of the
night he calls me up Joseph yeah he
wakes me up and he says good news all
right you know what you know what Joel
did he loved you so much he gave a
million dollars payment to Phil guess
what next morning I’m your yo yeah yeah
you are
I’m your front door and say hey Phil
come on you’ve been rich because of me
yeah yeah
yeah I’m no longer avoiding you I’m
Malloy you know I come on man how about
a treat come on Wow and some five-star
Italian restaurant hello bro hey come on
you know and how about sharing our
building no the thing is this when we
have we realize how much Jesus has paid
yeah our sin-debt he paid a debt him he
did not oh right I ordered that I could
never pay mmm but his payment was an
overpayment because if you know the
quality the the value of that one men
compared to all the men that have ever
lived
he’s an overpayment and if I can say
this reverently God God has become a
gainer hmm and rich by redemption he has
gained much more from redemption than he
ever lost true Adam sinned Wow and
that’s something all believers must know
we come to God all right
he’s been enriched Wow he rips a greater
harvest of praise and worship to him
than he ever did from creation yes from
the fields of redemption hallelujah oh
this is amazing grace
so the first thing that comes to my mind
is come boldly now yeah
come boldly now when you’re doing good
cuz it doesn’t matter cuz even when
you’re in trouble right even when you’ve
had a bad day
mm-hmm come ball I’m totally talking
mercy tick because he you already know I
mean the payment has been overpaid right
there’s not enough that you can do and
and wow that’s a little staggering and
our sins are forgiven past present and
future now some people have Freight when
you when you preach debt all right and
they’ll say things like no you know I
cannot preach that in my church there’s
no telling what people would do yeah
all right so they’d rather not preach
the truth because of some fleshly fear
then to trust the power of the gospel to
change em now
obviously Jesus Jesus would not share
the same sentiments as these people
because Jesus believed whoever is
forgiven much they will love much
and like a woman you know probably a
prostitute who came to Simon the
Pharisees house when Jesus was having
dinner with him and he wept at his feet
and she wiped his feet with her hair
known and geo say Simon I have something
to tell you there were two debtors that
ordered creditor one thousand eight
hundred thousand when they both could
not pay he forgave them both who would
love him more and Simon the Pharisee
having shackles you know dollars in his
eyes you know he understand this
language yes I assume the one who is
forgiven most I came to your house you
gave me no water for my feet all right
look at this woman just not cease
weeping on my food you know why because
the one that’s forgiven little loves
little
yeah the one that’s forgiven much loves
much so we need to push the truth the
reason why the body of Christ is not
passionately in love with God with Jesus
you know they give lips I love you Lord
but India hearts you know is because of
this they still have this thing get on
your conscience absol and if only we
will push the truth that your sins are
forgiven past present and future yeah
rest easy all right that will not cost a
life centrist lifestyle right right
believing will produce right living e
we’ve had preaching from the pulpit all
right right right living right living
right leading character character and
yet there’s so much a there’s a lack of
character in the pews and there’s a lot
of wrong leading why is that so yeah
because the pulpit is not a place of
unveiling the law is a place of
unveiling Jesus and it’s finished work
right believing if they believe right
they will leave right yeah yeah it is
the believing yeah that’s most important
well this is this is so crucial because
what I see is that a lot of Christians
they really have been forgiven a lot but
they don’t know it they don’t know one
has not made them aware right that not
only and and this is what I see I I work
with Joel I’m a pastor but because I see
what God is doing and the Christian
community is stuck judging right and I
always tell people resist the nudge the
judge but there
can help themself because we judge that
which were having a problem with Jesus
made it clear it’s a dead giveaway
whatever you’re judging it’s what you
yourself need to be judged in and I
think tonight and you come in here and I
mean this I mean this this I’m saying
this with all the sincerity and whatever
equity I have I’m leaning into this your
message this message it’s not your
message you’re a facilitator so we do
the job real the gospel but someone the
Bible says how can they hear unless a
man will preach it and how can a man
preach it unless he’s sent through I
want to prophetically say to you that
for such a time as now the nations are
opening
you must speak this word because we are
devouring one another we are judging one
another we can’t even celebrate I’ve
watched Joe
I’ve watched nearly a million people
give their life to Christ but people
can’t even celebrate that because we’re
such in bondage and I just you know in
the in the minutes that we have left
here I just want to release a prophetic
prayer that God is gonna begin to unveil
unveil and I want to talk about your
fruit for a minute because when this
happened your church just give us a
little bit of the fruit that is being
experienced at new creation Church in
Singapore I showed my experience in 1997
the prior to that the church has been
growing steadily but we heat a like a
ceiling a plateau at 2000 you know I’ve
been preaching the Word of Faith in
Singapore and Singapore’s a beautiful
country by the way excellent great place
to shop and it’s a tiny island but we
were growing until 1997 we hit the
plateau for a long time we couldn’t seem
to break through the plateau and there
was the time the Lord spoke to me about
grace
and when I went back to my church and
preached radically about grace there was
a time that the plateau just broke and
the ceiling just broke in you know it’s
been amazing ever since like you
do you touch on a week on a weekly basis
but 22,000 people concentration in a
moment I want you to pray I want you to
just release I believe that nothing can
happen until prophetically it’s released
I just want you to just release a
blessing a prayer just because I believe
because the mantle of God is upon you
that in the two minutes that we have
just release this upon our churches
release this upon this nation we are
stuck and we need this message of grace
and I believe we’re on sacred holy
ground right now I take seriously that
God has sent you to this country
the sovereignty of God to bring you for
such a time as this and just I just want
you to look to the world and especially
this country and release a prayer
blessing you know feel I feel in my
heart a special love for pastors yeah
you know pastors want to push the truth
and I just want to speak to the past
this for a while you know Galatians
chapter 1 tells us if we preach any
other gospel if we are an angel from
heaven not an angel from hell an angel
from heaven preach any other gospel than
the gospel of grace then what we have
preached to you let him be anathema
accursed and if that is not enough he
repeats twice if we are an angel from
heaven preach any other gospel let him
be accursed now I want to challenge you
pastors when you preach the gospel of
grace the opposite will happen you’ll be
doubly blessed yeah because the Bible is
so clear that is the gospel of grace
that unveils Jesus grace is not a
teaching grace is the person of Jesus
Christ if you are watching this right
now wherever you may be going to
encounter the person of Jesus when you
touch him you touch your healing when
you touch him you touch your prosperity
your provision yes when you touch him
you touch your emotional wholeness and
your broken heart will be healed I want
to pray for you right now
stretch your hands to a Stevie mmm
father in heaven you said Lord when you
bless the people in these words I’ll put
my name on them mm-hmm and I will bless
them yes the Lord himself blessed you
with the blessings of Deuteronomy 28 and
the blessings of Abraham yes the Lord
make his face shine on you protect you
from all evil protect you from this
economic downturn you are in the world
but you are not of the world your
provisions
off from his riches in glory yes and I
release upon you the abundance of heaven
yes I release upon you I reaches of
Jesus oh Jesus I release upon you
abundance of grace Wow and the gift of
righteousness
now reign in life yes reign over your
addictions Rainn Wilson reign in life
Amen Jesus has qualified you amen amen
get on the phone let us know that grace
is alive and well you know that you
received it
you god bless you please can you