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this is the mentoring moments podcast
with Jensen Franklin and Marcus Mecum
well welcome to mentoring moments uh I’m
here with Pastor Jensen Franklin Tyshawn
Roland and Noah Herring I’m Marcus Mecum
and we’re at the forward conference and
last year we had some conversations with
some different young leaders and so we
thought that we would do the same thing
again this year and I think I have a few
things I want to do today of course I
think any questions you want to ask
Pastor that’s why we’re really here but
another big thing is we have a lot of
young leaders watch this we have a lot
of pastors watch this and I thought it
would make sense if we would let you
guys maybe even talk to us as youth
pastors
like what what are some things we can do
as pastors to serve you to serve help
you reach young people you know because
a lot of times we you know we don’t even
know what we’re not doing and so there’s
that disconnect so I thought it might be
good to say what are some things that
you’ve done to build that bridge to your
pastors
where some some things like that that we
could maybe do and so
no talk to us a little bit yeah hey
great job by the way yeah yeah yeah we
just had a session that we just came out
of
and uh these guys
um just
were amazing and uh just incredible
content incredible communication to a
new generation of young people and young
youth pastors and uh it was so so
beautiful so powerful we appreciate who
you are we appreciate your voices uh in
this generation usually when God is
uh gonna touch a generation he calls
someone out of that generation he
doesn’t using usually call an older
person
to although they’re a multi-generational
Ministries ours would be one
but he’s really after someone in that
generation
and I feel like that I’m talking to two
of those voices that God has sovereignly
laid his hand upon and uh you you are
the next way for you and many others out
there that are the next wave of leaders
and just just as an observer
um
there’s never been on a level of
communication a generation as well
versed and as well able to communicate
the gospel as your generation there are
many other Generations like mine that
brought a lot of inspiration but
sometimes the Theology and the
information was not there but what they
didn’t have they made up for an
inspiration but when you ever get the
mixture of inspiration with information
there is a powerful thing and your
challenge will be your I believe the
challenge of your generation is to is
not information because right here you
have more technology in your back pocket
you you have access to to the greatest
messages and sermons and quick
information
uh that would take weeks to develop
previously but the greatest challenge to
your generation from my perspective is
to have inspiration meaning the
anointing meaning a move of God with the
teaching with the powerful
um presentation that your generation
does you’re much more disciplined in uh
prep I think than previous generations
but there’s so much more to reaching a
generation there must be the most
powerful preachers or preachers who have
information but they also when they
bring that word it changes the
atmosphere that they bring it into and
the presence they facilitate the
presence of God into that room so I see
that in you guys and I see that in
others that God is raising up and uh
we’re we’re delighted you’re on
mentoring with us and we’re believing
God to really speak to youth uh pastors
out there but beyond that to Young
pastors out there and to my generation
and to Marcus’s generation of how we can
run together because we need to run
together yeah
okay this is such an honor for us uh
Pastor Jensen what you were just talking
about
um with like I’m hearing you say that uh
about your generation and I literally
think of you when I think about
preaching with the power of the holy
spirit being evident in the room
stewarding the the Holy Spirit moving in
the room
um I would say that uh that is something
I would love to to learn more about and
there have been times when I I feel like
as a young preacher I’ve done that
intentionally and then there’s been
times I’ve done it accidentally and then
there have been a lot of times where
I’ve really messed it up and I felt the
Holy Spirit moving and I’ve tried to uh
to do my own thing and so would you
actually mind just talking about like
what you’re thinking about while you’re
preaching and you feel the Holy Spirit
moving
um
always in prepping for a service
um
I don’t just I ask myself why am I
preaching this
why why does this matter now and and so
if I can’t feel it if if it doesn’t
touch me if it doesn’t move me if it
doesn’t
um if it doesn’t challenge me or if it
doesn’t just Quicken me if it doesn’t
just change my mood change get me into
the spirit you know why would I try to
preach it to somebody else wow so you
know that really matters to me like if
it’s even even I think there’s times
when I need like a um a dream message I
I need somebody to speed my dream I need
somebody to inspire me I need to not
just see the negative and see the
challenge and talk about trials and
tribulations there are other times where
I really need uh somebody to
take me somewhere else you know and and
does that make sense absolutely and and
help help me uh dream again yeah you
know so when I start feeling like that
all I’ve learned that’s the nudging of
the Lord and what I’m trying to get to
is God will anoint you
uh to bring those messages and then it’s
up to you to really get the burden for
those messages and if you get the burden
for it and you really believe because
you know how much you needed that you
know
um it has a tendency to really connect
with it with a congregation and so I I
think to just facilitating the holy
spirit means a lot of times
um doing it before you get in the pulpit
you know do do it do it alone with God
first in private do it uh through
worship you know I’m I’m a singer I’m a
musician I’m I love music I play the
piano there’s always a song working in
Me Maybe an old hymn it may be something
I heard the team do today but there
there usually is a song for me and it’ll
go around in me for two or three weeks
sometimes and and uh lately it’s been uh
uh Worthy is your name Jesus if I just
start singing that or humming that I
feel the presence of the Lord many times
in my car all by myself I’ll just start
singing and when a song’s fresh on me
sometimes it’s an old hymn these are
just little things you don’t think
anything about but the more I think
about it it’s facilitating the Holy
Spirit anywhere he’s invited he’ll come
yeah and don’t wait until you get in the
Pulpit yeah but go on and spend time
with him and that way when you get in
the Pulpit it doesn’t matter what’s
going on it doesn’t matter if they just
had a hundred announcements it doesn’t
matter if I go to Worthy is your name
Jesus the atmosphere starts changing
that is conducive to everything the Holy
Spirit has been speaking to me about
that service wow so be sensitive I guess
is what I’m trying to say and and won’t
it it starts with desire it starts with
I want to do more than get up here and
bring a truth and give a lesson I want
an impact to happen
and when you desire it that’s where it
starts the Holy Spirit Works through
desire yeah yeah I think I think from my
generation one just thank you for even
being a person that we could watch I
think both you and Pastor Marcus were
you talking about our generation being
good speakers It’s really because we
just sat down and watched all your
guys’s sermons online wow in a way that
probably I think practically a lot of
people I don’t know just think about
that like I was a teenager it was which
preacher am I gonna watch on my phone
then I’m gonna watch another preacher
when I get home and I’m gonna watch
another preacher so I think my
generation is a byproduct of actually
watching you guys and I think the thing
that we can’t see is the way that you
guys live your life privately I think
for me I was talking to Pastor Marcus
yesterday I’m turning 30 next month and
I’m just thinking about right now not
what stage I’m gonna step on or how I’m
going to prepare for a message my
question is what kind of man am I going
to be how should I be carrying myself
right now now because one day I will be
getting to the years that you guys are
living in and what are things that you
could tell people like me and Noah
because so many people watch your
messages so many people follow you on
Instagram and we’re so encouraged by the
way you lived your life but I think it
would have been uh helpful for us to
know what does that living look like as
a young man in Ministry Desiring to do
the things that you’ve done build the
things that you’ve built like what
should we be thinking about and living
like
and let you take a stab at that
no good
I I think a big a big thing is is being
willing to be hidden
you know a lot of guys that get out
front quick
they get too much light too fast and um
I’m not saying there’s anything wrong
with that you know if you read the Bible
you got an entire book called The Book
of Judges where it got supernaturally
raises someone out of nothing into great
prominence so God does do that
but I think historically the way God
does it if you read the Bible it’s it’s
a slower process and when you’re young
you think if it’s not an overnight
sensation it’s it’s not god wow because
that’s what that’s what everybody props
up so everybody thinks well man if God
really loves me and if God’s really
going to use me he’s going to do it like
that yeah when the truth is rarely is
that how God does it in scripture
usually it’s little by little it’s a
very slow process it’s it’s if God’s the
king maker which I think he’s the best
King maker and you know we’re still
Kings and Priests so
the Bible says of God in in Revelation 3
if God gives you the crown no man can
take it from you so in other words
develop your skill set in the hidden
places you know develop you know that’s
every time I feel like I should be
somewhere and I’m not there
there’s always this quiet voice saying
it’s okay because you get it you’re
getting better yeah you know you’re
developing your skill set more right now
so when if the opportunities come you’re
gonna be
more prepared you’re gonna your skill
set’s gonna be more ready it’s don’t you
know you’re not racing you’re not you’re
not there is nobody that’s run your race
that’s on your path you know so be at
peace with that look at other people
watch other people
but be at peace with the fact that
um so that’s I think for me
but that’s my message you know my
message is you know that
God’s grace for me has been hiding me
and to someone else they may see like
it’s happened fast but in my mind it’s
been this real slow like is it ever
gonna happen is God ever gonna do
anything even in my church it was that
way for years you know everybody else is
getting their buildings and everybody
else is and I’m just sitting there like
seven Services a weekend because we just
don’t have the resources to do anything
else and you know and everything’s
falling apart nothing works and you know
but I just kept winning souls and just
saying well I guess this is my lot I
guess this is my place and then
eventually God sees your faithful and
there’s a sudden burst or there’s a
sudden way that things go up so I
yeah what he’s saying is so true one of
the big things that
happened to me and I’ve noticed it it’s
the strangest thing even us sitting here
um together doing this at forward
conference
there was a time when you were watching
us and receiving from us by video or
television or whatever
um uh podcasts whatever
but that began a gravity of pulling you
towards certain Ministries that God
wants to connect you I look back over my
life
and I remember when I was a teenager
just maybe 20 20 well not a teenager but
20 years old
maybe even younger than that actually I
was a teenager and I would listen to a
guy’s cassette tape named Ronnie Brock
and this sounds so crazy I’m so obsessed
over this guy because I wanted to be him
I wanted to do he touched me he would
Minister a 25-minute sermon and sing a
course before he uh would would preach
he always sung a course Holy Spirit now
it well or something like that
and it would
I cannot explain to you to this day my
mind goes back to listening to those
tapes as a teenager
and even though I’d never met him he was
a famous speaker in the denomination
that I was in the Church of God I never
dreamed that I would meet him I even had
a dream about him I even he was that big
of a deal in my life that I I dreamed
that I I I saw him and had a dream about
him I was you know because not not like
a in a weird way it was just he was so
big to me and that was God almost I know
it was God using him to to give me a
model
of what my Ministry could do to touch
people uh if I would believe him yeah
and and the weird thing is is through
the years one thing leads to another
I start ministering the next thing you
know I really did meet him and his
brother Steve and then we begin then I
preached for him and I preached for his
brother and it’s the weirdest thing you
you you end up in a world
that that in your wildest dreams you
could never put into words the impact
the times that when they preached the
sermons went so deep that uh that it um
it was then grafted were you know it’s
like a branches that is engrafted means
it was broken and it’s connected now and
what happens is it a grafted Branch
means you know it was a separate thing
but now it’s that’s the kind of thing
that happens and uh I guess what I’m
trying to say is when you connect with a
Ministry when God connects you with a
Ministry
um you may never meet that person but if
you’re in the ministry and you stay
connected in the spirit you it there
will be a life-giving source through
that Ministry through the wisdom through
the word that God gives that person TF
Tenney was one for me and others I could
start naming Tommy Barnett and so many
others that through the years I never
dreamed I would ever be on the same
Planet anywhere near those people and
all of those people became my dear
friends you know people that I never so
God knows how
to connect us you know to the people and
generationally he knows how to connect
us and I don’t believe in accidents
and you can’t make it happen yeah you
can’t you can’t pursue me or him enough
to make that happen is that there’s a
Grace there’s an ease there’s a um
destiny because you wouldn’t give up you
kept coming around or whatever it was I
don’t know I don’t know how y’all ended
up here but God knows what he’s doing
and I don’t know how you ended up on
that stage but that’s God he gets all
the glory he raises up he does what he
wants to do and it’s not about us it’s
about him and his kingdom but he’s
looking at our hearts and he’s saying I
wanna I want the same Spirit that’s on
Moses to be on the 70 elders and the
only question you need to ask
can God trust my spirit on 70 others and
I hope he can you know that that’s the
that’s the heavy responsibility side
because if if we mess up if he messes up
and I mess up it has a ripple effect
so stay strong
can I ask you a question you you were
talking about the uh the young
communicators of today and uh just the
the way that uh I think Ty’s one of the
best speakers I’ve ever heard and the
thing is there’s there’s pockets of
people all over the country that are
preaching just like Tai
um but I think with that it’s now easier
to compare
compare Ministries compare speaking uh
compare opportunities compare Styles all
those different things than it’s ever
been before because you don’t have to go
hear them in person you know you can
hear anybody at any time
um when you were a young preacher you
know teenager early 20s
um did you have to wrestle with
comparison with other Ministries oh
absolutely it’s can’t imagine that
that’s one of the Apostle Paul said
you’re not wise when you do that yeah
um because you know
uh yes 100
um I always compare myself at we came up
in the same denomination me and Perry
Stone yeah and like he would have big
revivals and I would have some big
revivals and and it was always he’s one
of my best friends wow but but it would
there was always a little bit of uh uh I
don’t want to say competing but we’re
both kind of aggressive yeah kind of
leaders you know that that want to that
want to go for it there’s nothing wrong
with that but you don’t let I did have
to reach a point where I realized I will
never be what he is so I’m going to stop
trying and be what God wants me to be
and the amazing thing is when I relaxed
in that
your gift just makes room for you and
and you know that’s a big that’s a big
thing to learn that’s a big thing to
stop trying so hard yeah uh you can you
can learn a lot from watching somebody
like that and they will and let them
spur you on maybe like I remember Perry
Perry started
um growing like he got an office and he
had you know which was unheard of you
know he had a little staff and he had he
had a magazine and he had a look back
then you know a little magazine and all
these things and and and I I was like I
got to do that I gotta do that so I
tried you know but they could it
wouldn’t go anywhere and so you finally
realize I’m gonna I’m gonna I’m gonna do
what I know I’m I’m called to do and
what I have a Grace to do yeah so good I
think the going back to what you were
talking about earlier being kind of
impacted by people’s Ministry I know
people watching we’ve all been in
impacted by that little brown book that
you wrote on fasting it was one of the
first Christian books I ever saw my mom
read and that’s really what kind of
connected me to your ministry and even
the story I talked about when my brother
died May 28th I visited Free Chapel June
4th you preached on the power of
expectation and you talked about how
even if you expect God to use your
tragedy he can actually use it for the
glory of God and it was something that
as you’re talking about that message got
engrafted to me and I don’t think
everyone has this natural kind of like
opportunities but God has now opened up
doors with you and with other leaders
that I look up to I think a question I
would love both of you to even ask
because I was thinking about this other
day when I was calling somebody I was a
pastor and it was a leader and I was
like I can ask him this or this or this
and then I realized I don’t even know
what I should be asking a person of this
caliber so my question is that if
someone does get positioned in front of
a minister that they look up to like you
guys what questions should we be asking
what what are you guys looking for from
our generation when it comes to the way
we carry ourselves the way we leave like
what are the practical things you would
encourage that’s great
I would
for me what has been at least with with
Pastor Jensen and I think you really
have to find I mean I’ve got a lot of
different people over the years that
that have spoken into my life a lot of
amazing people incredible people
I don’t know if I ever went pragmatic at
any of it of them like how do I ask this
question or that question
I would do my best to to through honor
and through uh good whatever access I
did have to try to build the
relationship find a way to
add value to them so for me whenever I
look up to someone
I don’t look to them for my benefit yeah
I’m asking myself how can I add
value to them so good so because if I
could start thinking about my benefit
then I can feel overlooked or offended
but if I keep saying
my job is to add I’m here for their
benefit that’s what I do that’s how
that’s my call that’s my assignment
then as a result when I’m serving to his
benefit or somebody else’s then I get
protection yeah so what normally happens
is you start accessing them and then
you’re in a challenge you’re which to me
is where my questions come from I’m like
I this is bigger
this is it this is the big one you know
like I feel my chest is closing closing
now I don’t know if I can get through
this
and then because you built the bridge
you can now Drive something weighty over
it it’s not some little flimsy thing
it can handle so now you got something
real you can ask a real question wow
that’s helpful hey you know and uh so I
would say
relationship matters for me uh I watch a
lot of people even in our world uh
pastors or whatever they’ll be hey can I
come spend a morning with you can I come
spend a day with you and they will and
they don’t hear about it from them for
three or four years and I think they
miss the most important part and that
was wow the connection the relationship
letting me know what they did with what
I talked about yeah it doesn’t have to
be a lot you don’t have to obsess about
it every day every week but just
occasionally stay close stay in touch
keep the keep the flow going don’t Don’t
Starve it don’t get offended if
somebody’s not responding keep and if
you’ll build that relationship then the
day will come like it’s happened with
him where I’ll have a real concern a
real question a real challenge I’ll be
in the trial of my life and in my mind
there’s no way anybody’s gone through
what I’m really going through I think
that this and and then someone like him
will show the scars yeah
yeah because you are now I can be
vulnerable now I can be transparent now
I can say
you know I’m hurting here or I’ve missed
it here or I feel like I’m failing in
this area and then they’ll open up
because they
it at a in a higher way in a deeper way
even because there’s relationships yeah
that’s good so what questions I don’t I
don’t know if that’s the best you can
get a book of questions from John
Maxwell and Uzi them away at somebody
but for me the impartation comes through
the relationship and then there will be
moments that you need somebody and when
you really need somebody it just
happened just now with my family a
situation uh with one of my family
members that they’re going through I
didn’t ask him to do anything but he saw
my family member and he immediately
prayed for her reached out to her but
the relationship built
that I’m here for his benefit I’m not at
forward conference for my benefit I’m
here because it means something to him
I love being here I like to be here but
I’m doing it because I know he needs to
know
I’m lifting your arms up I’m praying for
you I’m believing in your dreams I it
means the world to me to watch you
flourish and succeed I love it I I want
to see it and then now the protection
comes wow where I need it most
which was with a family member of mine
wow God spoke through him to them
I didn’t plan that it was relationship
then the challenge came
in the only protection that can come
through a covering and a real
relationship was there yeah and and I
don’t know the fruit of that right now
but I can imagine
30 40 50 years from now that family
member will tell that story yes
powerful but I didn’t go at it looking
for that yeah I went at it just saying I
built the bridge I’ll do what I have to
do 22 years of building a bridge you
know
and then protection comes so that’s if
your generation could do anything I
would say say so true work really hard
at
not looking
for the opportunity in a relationship
but looking how can you add values yeah
if you get nothing back how can you add
value
and if you’ll do that eventually it’ll
click eventually you’ll separate
yourself from the crowd because most
everybody’s got their hand out yeah you
know so just don’t be that that guy come
to add value come to serve and
yeah that’s good very good very good
very helpful
all right I’m gonna I’m gonna keep
asking because we’re we’re sit I mean
I’ve I’ve been thinking about these
questions for years and if I get a
chance to ask him so uh Pastor Jensen
you’re writing a sermon it’s Monday
morning does does the sermon come you
talked about burden and need does it
primarily come from that place
in the moments when you don’t wake up on
Monday and have a particular burden or
or something that you feel like your
church your congregation needs to hear
um where do you go then I’m about to
launch a church in September and this
this is the first time in five years
that I’ll be preaching every week and
I’ve got ideas and been praying but I
know that there’s going to hit a point
where it’s like where do we go from here
and and what do you do on those weeks
how do you
um
so I’ve been I’ve been in both places
I’m I’ve been pastoring now for 30 plus
years I have that experience of now
which is totally different than when I
first started pastoring the only church
I’ve ever pastored and I had perfected
20 sermons that worked anywhere I went
and
they would move move God just used those
words I don’t know it just it just works
and it brought Revival and then so then
came that moment that you’re talking
about
where the reality is back then I was
preaching three sermons a week different
sermons Sunday morning Sunday night
Wednesday night wow and it was expected
that you’d bring it wow and uh what that
does to you is it almost kills you
number one which is not good
but it was how it was yeah and God gave
me a Grace God help me but I would dig I
would beg still borrow anything I had to
do to get through the week now that’s
what I had to do now it’s a different
world it’s a different platform yeah
and so what I’ve learned at this season
is I never want to sit down on a Monday
and have an empty page knowing that
Sunday’s coming what helps me
tremendously is to have three or four
messages that I already have it takes
all the pressure off I know they’re
solid messages and so how do you do that
you may have to really focus because you
have to you have to pick and choose
especially in administrative stuff and
when you’re building a church and you
don’t have a team that you can really
throw this and that on and people don’t
understand it when you got 150 200
people and and and they don’t want to
talk to your assistant and they could
care less about whether the youth pastor
comes and sees them they expect you to
be there and I get that I’ve done that
I’ve been in that world I’m still in
that world in some ways but but by that
I mean I mean
um
you know you have to give yourself we
can’t wait on tables you know the the
book of Acts story and they gave
themselves to the word they gave
themselves to prayer and so you have to
set aside time and you have to say I’m
going to study these are my days of
study this is my time of study I’m not
I’m not open to any and everything yeah
uh and and you just get you that’s where
the magic has to happen you open up shop
and you say but it’s also he said
something so powerful if you’re a
communicator you’re listening all the
time just listening all the time and so
you know you you constantly have to feed
yourself if you’re going to be a feeder
yeah and so you know take it in take it
in whether that’s in book form whether
that’s in uh audio books whether that’s
in messages and this person that person
all kinds of people listen keep fresh
listen to listen to to uh you know and
as you do that things start stirring
yeah
um I don’t like that feeling though what
you just described of it’s Monday and I
gotta have a sermon I I despise that
feeling and although I still get it
I don’t feel the pressure that I used to
feel because I know I’ve got messages
and if God doesn’t give me something new
that’s a sign to me by a certain point
in the week go back to something he has
given you and keep reading and I’ll read
through old notes take good notes
because those notes 20 years from now
can come alive and speak to you in your
congregation in magnificent ways
um if you don’t you know go back and
re-read what God’s already said and
something will come alive and if it does
feed it feed it because now you know so
much more now you have so many more
illustrations and and stories and things
that you can throw into that and feed
into that that’s really how it starts I
wish I had some easier method to
describe to you but that’s that’s it I
love it and God is faithful Noah God
called you and and I use this
illustration one time I gave I gave a
hundred dollar bill and I told this guy
his name is Anthony I told him to put it
put the hundred dollar slip it in his
wife’s Bible and don’t tell her just
slip it in there and he slipped it in
there in the middle of my sermon I
called her out and I said I want you to
give me a hundred dollar bill I know
you’ve got one and she she’s in front of
everybody she said I don’t have it I
said oh yes you do and she said no I
don’t and I said well we’ll check that
Bible she said pastor I don’t have any
money she opened it up and there was a
hundred dollar bill
and the point that I was making was I
know what I put in you I know what I
gave to you you don’t know what I gave
you don’t know what he gave to you I
didn’t know what God gave to me I didn’t
see it didn’t believe in it didn’t still
at times uh God still makes you have
those moments to keep you on your knees
uh so funny we were laughing the other
week I had one of those weeks I I was as
dry as I could be I had read I’d done
everything all I had was a thought and
and so I got up and preached that
thought it was really a story and I it
didn’t go like I wanted it to go like I
thought it was gonna go and I was so I
felt like I did I just it was just one
of those funky days some days some
Sundays it was raining the music was
kind of something was just kind of not
you know I thought well they’ll be so
strong maybe the Lord’s gonna take no
they were in one of those days too and
it’s just like everybody you walk in and
it’s down and it’s kind of you you just
feel and then I’m supposed that’s when I
really need a word to let you know and
and I get up and I’m like man this is
not going like I thought it cost you
know and and
I don’t know I don’t know what it is
about those times there are days where
you stroke but here’s what I’ve learned
the next Sunday was
I thought nobody would come back I
thought the place and it was filled and
the Lord moved and you just keep doing
it yeah and even those messages that you
don’t think are that powerful they God
uses the vessel God uses the vessel and
his word will not return unto him void
so stay after it I think that’s the key
stay after keep learning keep taking in
study you know listen get around
communicators do like your yard that’s
what y’all are doing you’re pursuing it
and it’ll fine you yeah it’ll find you
thank you it’ll find you and the
messages will come there’s a Grace truly
there is a Grace that kicks in you
scratch your head and say I look at some
of my old notes like 30 years ago notes
and I’m like did I preach that
because they do transcripts of word for
word and it’s like where where is the
beef like that old Burger King thing you
know where’s the beef what is that what
you preach for 40 minutes
is that and and only God could but the
church kept growing wow so it is a Grace
that you stepped into with your church
and God’s Gonna help you
amen same with a youth pastor the moment
you say yes to that call you may not
even know half how you’re doing it what
you’re doing keep pursuing it keep
pursuing it any thoughts
I mean
I mean what he said is I’m in my mind
I’m like
if you’re going to be a weekly
Communicator it just never stops
Sunday’s coming Sunday’s coming Sunday’s
coming and so you just begin to develop
that
the disciplines to always be prepared
always be ready
you know and uh you guys obviously just
listening to both of you have an eye for
Content that’s something he taught me a
long time ago that that you have to have
an eye for it
um and he even said what you guys were
talking to talking up from the stage he
kept saying I told you I told you you
know see they’ve got to see and
everybody was their their content was so
refined the other stuff that just comes
the weightiness The Authority the the
Dominion the
the sense of like what you’re saying
carries more weight that comes through
the spirit Spirit Carries massive weight
because the people sitting out there
will be touched more by your spirit
by the sincerity by the the uh the true
it’s not hype it’s not it’s it’s a
vulnerability almost
that that is pure and real when you
speak from that kind of uh
place
it because anybody can get content
anybody can get content but when it’s
coming from the realness of the fact
that you’ve been with the Lord that that
is the force that makes the difference
that is the thing that will touch that
the people and they will know I mean my
sheep know my voice so if you’ve got his
voice wow you know and then you have to
learn how to relax in that and be you
and bring it like you bring it but uh
then you know then it’s some fine tuning
that I think like really think the altar
service is through the best you can try
to figure out you know where where
you’re wanting to go with it and let let
go and maybe it’s a song that can get
you there so you know
it’s so helpful yeah I want to um go
ahead Sean I know I think as we like
maybe one of the last questions I have
for the both of you just in the season
me and Victoria are thinking about our
family and growing our family Noah has
two children and even seeing you guys
like I see Courtney behind the camera I
see Connor who did a phenomenal job of
this conference your children serving
the house of God I think what’s so great
about the both of you is not just that
your great ministers but you have great
families and I think sometimes people
even in my season we just want to be a
great Minister we’re not thinking about
our future sons and daughters and I feel
like you guys have done such a great job
leading your families what is something
we can do right now to make our families
a priority I I would encourage you to
start with your wife
honor your wife
show her honor talk about your wife um
honor her from your heart not for show
not not for that listen to her listen to
her I’ll honor her uh start it there I
mean not in not in just like a show but
really really honor her and realize that
that she is equal with you that the
ministry does not give you an upper hand
in uh in being because you’re anointed
uh marriage don’t don’t play that
marriage is like
um I appreciate your anointed but but
this is a real marriage this is a real
marriage and you know it’s going to
require you being equal not you here and
her there
you know you up here and she’s down
there and that’s so easy to happen
because when God really does use you in
powerful ways you can almost come out
and almost see like where the devil’s
trying to distract me here your wife is
never a demonic distraction wow uh that
is that is not the voice of the Holy
Spirit
and so you really have to work on that
you really have to the more you honor
her the more you honor Christ yeah and
the more you uh understand that two are
better than one
two are veteran and you have obtained
favor from the Lord according to
scripture when you find your wife
and so that is the favor of God you’re
treating there do you want more favor
how are you treating your wife wow do
you want more favor on your ministry how
are you treating your wife
because you obtain favor
whosoever finds wife finds a good thing
and obtains the favor of the Lord so
um wow treat remember that it’ll make
you not be so sharp tongued or so quick
you know to be rude or whatever you know
work on that yeah it’s helpful amen so
helpful
so good I want
I want to take some time as we just wrap
up and I know that Noah you’re planting
a church right can you briefly tell us
where you’re planting when you’re
planting the name of your church so
maybe somebody is listening can thank
you be praying maybe they have a family
member in that area or maybe they’re
not in a church and they live there
possibly yeah thank you so much
um we’re planting a church called Way
Church and uh we’re in Nashville
Tennessee oh so we’re great city city
we’re uh we’re about two exits South
we’re launching in lipsicum academy uh
school so we’re rinsing out their chapel
and uh we start our weekly services on
September 10th so uh two and a half
months from when we’re recording right
now so uh God has put an amazing amazing
team
um around us and uh we’re actually
starting to gather with our launch team
starting tomorrow in Nashville just to
pray and ask God to move in our city and
uh we’re we’re terrified and excited at
the same time so yeah you’re gonna
you’re gonna you’re gonna kill it and
then taishan you’re traveling primarily
yeah helping churches speaking preaching
just just got back from Australia and
yeah okay
Australia how long were you there uh 42
days you 42 days and so I’m just
traveling and serving and just kind of
taking the message of the Gospel
everywhere I go so such feel feel very
privileged feel like I’m in over my head
a little bit but I’m excited to see what
God continues to do and so if you’re
looking for somebody to come and help
your church of course I know Tashan
would love to hear from you and we just
want to say we’re proud of you you know
what you’re doing and saluting and we
watched you know God’s hand on your life
today and uh is it okay if we just pray
for you pray for this next season of
your lives and and we’re just trusting
that God’s best is in front of you
so Jesus we lift up Noah
and we lift up Tyshawn and father we
just asking for you to preserve them
protect them
bless them Prosper them raise them up
father to be an influence to be an
example of Integrity humility power
anointing Revelation insight
father
we thank you for what their Futures hold
and father we thank you for all of those
lives that are assigned to them and
their obedience their steps of obedience
and holy spirit we thank you you’re
already preparing Hearts you’re already
breaking up the ground where they’re
going you’re already aligning the right
people that their job is you’ve already
prepared the good works beforehand for
them their job is to take those steps
and walk in it and I just thank you that
their feet are anointed their steps are
anointed their path is Anointed and so
father we just bless them today thank
you for all that they poured into us and
so many and so father we’re just asking
for your continued hand to be on their
life in Jesus name amen and I’d like to
say just one word
to you
that
when I first went to Free Chapel I I so
related to what you just said a look
terrified is is the correct word
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and
when you said that uh it took me back it
took me back to those first the first
service
it was surreal it was Unreal
and I had no idea and yet I did know
what God was going to do
if I if I’m to be truthful I hear people
all the time say I had no I knew in my
heart if I could let God do what he
wanted to do and wouldn’t get in the way
that that church was going to do
something significant for God’s glory
and I feel like telling you what the
Lord shared with me in the early days
and I didn’t get it until I was just he
just said your name Noah and one of the
things one of the big principles the
Lord spoke to me is he said as you when
we started building our first church he
I said Lord that’s such a big church how
are we going to fill it
and the Lord said to me just like my
spirit spoke to the animals and two by
two they came from every direction to
the ark
tell no one I’m already speaking to
people and they’re going to come
families couples they’re going to come
and it will be a supernatural thing you
will be so amazed as they’ll come from
the north south east and west and that
place would be filled wow and just rest
in that in the name of Jesus he’s going
to give you a full Ark
a people his Spirit has drawn they’ll
find you you just keep the door open
Noah because they’re coming thank you so
much praise the Lord
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