you
we were and had been for a very long
time there in a place of crisis as a
family and I was very very tired I come
to the point where I thought I would go
mad or drop no one understands you from
the outside no one had any idea about
the kind of life that we were living
then I and I just
I cracked
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pretty much since Tim had been born had
lived not a normal life he didn’t sleep
properly for about five six years he was
an inconsolable baby
he was seen screen as though he was in
pain but the doctors couldn’t find
anything wrong with him
when he did go to sleep we were
absolutely terrified he was going to
wake up we couldn’t leave him we
couldn’t go anywhere we couldn’t be
apart from him so for many many years
that’s the way that we live it was very
very tough on us our relationship
because we didn’t have any time for
ourselves for a long time there was not
a lot of intimacy there was not a lot of
emotional connection because of the
crisis that we were in this economy when
he was about nine eight and nine and he
hadn’t been to school because we
realized that he would have been
diagnosed with hyperactivity or a lack
of ability to concentrate because we
could see he couldn’t even sit down to
eat a meal he would run round the table
take a mouthful rock around the table
and when I taught him his numbers we
would do it in the garden I’d ask him a
sum as he ran up the garden he’d answer
coming down the garden this is how I
taught him he never sat on my lap or lay
in bed while I had a bedtime story he
would walk round the carpet touching his
favorite bits going round and round and
round and as long as I would keep
reading here just keep walking round and
round touching his favorite bit
everything was timed so he knew where he
was in the day what was going to happen
next and the routine had to be very
structured his sleeping had always been
huge
– he’d wake up after he’d been asleep
for an hour – and he would jump up
screaming in terror and run around the
house but he didn’t recognize me if I
went towards him to comfort him he would
see me as a monster or something and he
would be terrified so it was
counterproductive I just have to stand
back and wait for him to calm down it
was just another one of the things that
we just dealt with and didn’t think much
about but it was quite an issue
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when we had James many people said to us
you will surely not get another child
who doesn’t sleep he sleeps as badly as
Timmy did I noticed one or two strange
things when he got to be 18 months and
then he started spinning round and round
moving his head round and when I changed
his nephew had flat flat flat flat and
then instead of pushing the cars we had
Action Man cars big ones he turned them
upside down and spinning the wheels for
ages so there were a few little odd
things but not enough to really I would
just facilitate his peculiarities and
thought it was okay but when he stopped
talking and he stopped communicating and
then he stopped liking people look at
him and he became distressed with light
and then he stopped eating foods and if
there was even the smallest lump in his
morning porridge he’d gag and vomited up
then we had a speech and language
therapist come in to assist Timothy and
there were two of them and I were
chatting to Tim trying to put him at
ease and stuff and then taking to me to
report back what they had found and they
were watching James who was playing with
his trains he laughed trains was his
favorite toys anyway what they said to
me was is that funny how autistic kids
love trains
and I said autistic kids what it’s
obvious isn’t it you don’t know didn’t
you know he’s a lot of disparate success
ah I think you should pet Kevin v he
shows a number of autistic
characteristics and that’s the first I
had even thought of it how seriously
gutted in the days following this 2005
assessment Timothy was tested and
diagnosed with a form of autism called
Asperger’s
while his younger brother James
exhibited all the symptoms of autistic
spectrum disorder and we suddenly
realized that gosh we were going to have
two children that got it and what were
the chances of that
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I didn’t know that I was really
struggling I wasn’t living a normal life
myself I’d lost touch with who I was I
just functioned 24 hours a day as caring
for these boys so I was plowing a lot of
my energies into my job because I needed
to make sure that that was successful to
be able to support the family that meant
traveling a lot
and I thought if anyone found out my
state of mental health they take the
children away I was absolutely terrified
often taking the children away but I was
also terrified that I couldn’t go on and
that’s when I cried out to the Lord I
say if you don’t help me now I’m
finished the incredible pressure the
incredible trauma that you you you
wanted to go as a family you have to
watch your your children the things you
love most in the world battling not just
with the the the curse that they’ve got
but also being rational enough to know
that they’ve got it and it was those
periods in which Deb’s found it the most
hardened which she had the darkest days
and it was during one of those dark dark
days that she watched the lovers day and
program they’re all mums talking about
their kids and they were talking about
military snapshots and pictures and
talking about that which ones of doing
what at school and they were chatting
and it just hit me in life like a sledge
hammer that what I’m experiencing and
what they experiencing are just so
different and I was weeping and then I
take Eunice why don’t you help her I had
been asking god help me for four years
and I said I love my voice so much and
you’re supposed to love them more than
me why have you done this to them and I
said I would die for my voice and that’s
when he said I already did I was so
stunned I just sucked up I didn’t stop
crying I just looked into the fireplace
I just stand there
that really wasn’t my sauce perfect
reading that was Jesus talking to me Wow
and that’s when I knew that they were
all right
and I thought well he’ll heal them I
just sat down stared at the fireplace
the tears went the pain went anxiety
went the fears with everything that had
worried me over the past number of years
it was like a huge load was just cut
away and I was free and I felt life and
I just set the state into that fireplace
and from that moment on that despair
that pair of the anxiety that I lived
with was gone when Timothy way to the
the school that was funded by the estate
it was a really huge thing for us but we
felt that he was actually quite capable
of doing it and as he progressed and as
they input increase the number of hours
he went he was upward and I believe that
the healing just took place gradually as
and when his world opened up and became
wide and he needed to cope with more and
more things it’s almost as if he was
covered in scales he was covered in the
scales of autism and over time those
scales have been peeled away and I would
say lord please send me someone to help
me I know you’re healing my boys man I
don’t know what to do and that was where
we were at when my mum phoned and said
what Andrew Wommack
I he’s got this some healing testimonies
and you’ve got to watch it and we will
watch it together and it was just
extraordinary even that he’s sitting
watching me think what is it really true
we had missed the beginning of the
Hannah’s story but we came in and from
where we saw was enough to see what had
taken place with Hannah’s story and the
bit that struck me and was when he’s a
piece of cake she teases make a cake for
Jesus this is a piece of cake for Jesus
and they smart crept across his face and
asked that
is this guy really believed this doesn’t
it you know in that face on the inside
of us rose up so father Jamie and I just
agreed and we thank you too by the
stripes of Jesus Hannah has already been
healed it’s just my face to face just
rose up inside of me and I thought yes
he’s talking about my God my way and
this when Christopher jumped up and went
to check out the website we research
Hannah’s Hannah and her story we found
out about and his grandparents and
Hannah’s moment had going to live in I
think in America and their grandparents
going to the College in Walsall it
didn’t just have an impact on Hannah it
had an impact on this incredible family
none and they were all they’d all
experienced it and they’d all gone
through this process and again you then
thinking yourself wow you know maybe
this maybe this is all true maybe this
is really happening and from that point
on started to watch Andrew Wommack every
day but we bought all his books or as
many books as we could get started to
record his programs watching on the
Internet
and we started to build up a kind of
trust I suppose in what he was saying
and in what he was saying we could have
and he shouted from the study he’s going
to be in Walsall in two weeks so I
thought well we’ll just have to pray
about it so I phoned an to worm
administered nurse spoke to a woman
there I’ve told her the situation I said
what we want to come we want Angie to
pay for our son
but we just need some help to get there
and I remember she said to me what can
you believe for I think we can get there
I’m not sure that I can exercise my
faith enough to see us getting into the
building so she says that’s fine we’ll
get you there and if you can’t get a
Maps car we’ll send a prayer team to the
car
I thought haha she paid in a way that I
had never heard before and it was great
it was authoritative it was thanking God
that it was done it was commanding and I
thought now he’s talking I have not
heard this kind of praying and it was
folks real to put down the phone listed
she said that this is going to happen
and this is going to happen and we go to
sleep and he’s going to eat
and customers like yeah haha she’s never
made my son and for the next two weeks I
made a calendar counting down this is
when we’re going to go stay in a hotel
he would cry every time I said it
another day and when I said no we’re
going to get in the spinny chair and
he’d spin spin and you’d refuse to come
out for hours sometimes but the day came
and he whips and he whips and he
physically was trying not to get into
the car it was hard work but I just sat
down and I prayed about it that’s it
Lord
they said that he’d be able to get in
the cart and that he’d be fine and that
you would carve him and come to come and
all would be well
and so we’re coming and it was amazing
could he just smiled up a bit
okay I’m ready let’s go and we strike to
merely sit there Christopher Knight has
kept looking at each other and sort of
holding our breath it was amazing we
booked into the hotel he was bouncing on
the bed he was really excited like this
is an adventure
and once again Timothy was like he
couldn’t believe it and he said okay
we’re going to go and eat at the
Kentucky Fried Chicken that the period
is is a test so we were off to the
Kentucky Fried ticket and that’s when
Timothy ordered himself some popcorn
chicken we didn’t know what to order
James so we thought well we won’t bother
with anything because it’s like offering
him food he doesn’t like if you start
even sat down and he looked at the food
there was no heaving there was no watery
eyes and that he would normally have him
with cooking smell he said they looked
at the popcorn chicken Issaquah fest and
he said it’s something called popcorn
chicken Oh chicken we had one he said is
it to be mine
fifty-eight and when he was finished at
he said well well he ate a second blood
he probably ate more than I’ve ever seen
of Ethan Webster to ever
he ate the tip the 8th of kitchen
and when Christopher and I were just
laughing at Miss America and we haven’t
even got there yet and it was an answer
to prayer it was what she had paid was
happening and so then we got to the
meeting and he was absolutely fine to
come out the car we set in the coffee
shop it was tea time and there was a
long queue of people they wanted Andrew
to find books or praise with him and
what-have-you and called Christopher and
that he got James and all four of us
stood in that queue and I was moving
slowly along and there were about five
people in front of us when Andrew said
right it’s time to get better tea breaks
over when everyone please go and sit
down don’t know and I started crying I
just like taps was open other thoughts
most I’m not going home and I’m not
unlocked Conqueror as it oh lord help me
help me help me I’m not going home
without this merit pay for myself and
then that was when Paul Flanagan saw us
and he grabbed us and he shoved up in
front Avengers did and he just one more
and he said great okay one more and we
told him the situation and he said a
prayer something along the lines
it was literally as quick as he rebuked
autism and he commanded healing and then
he blessed us as a family and he says
the law that we were blessed and that we
would something along the lines of a
fulfilled with God’s plan for our life
and then he said Christopher nihilus was
so huge he said to Christopher now you
and now the parents of normal healthy
children
and everything happened so quickly I
remember hearing that like the whole
world when quiet necessities were there
was eyes to me and I still believe it
was Jesus talking to me and so that was
a promise that was a promise that was
for me and I knew that he was right and
I was so moved and we just stepped out a
side door got in the car and we went to
McDonald’s where James ate the chicken
nuggets and the chips I think in their
evenings or well you’ve never even oh we
went home we went across the road to the
little girl who he had known but hadn’t
played with for over a year
invited her round and they played in the
sandpit on the trampoline and garden he
played for the nicely afternoon and
naptime at night and he had the first
complete full peaceful unbroken night’s
sleep since the day he was born and he
was 5 years old at that point but when
three months later he’s still sleeping
well when six months later when a year
later two years later he’s still
sleeping well and he’s starting to
become the child that you thought that
you knew was there but you couldn’t
reach because of autism you believe in
it and believe in the process and those
experiences have allowed us to start to
live a normal and more normal life so
for me it was very important for us to
to take the boys back to the
psychologist the people who diagnosed
them in the first place because we knew
there was something wrong with them but
we didn’t label them Asperger’s and
otters and that was done by this sort
the the professionals he was taken to
see the psychologist and she spent an
hour with him an hour and a half
chatting to him and at the end of it
there was no there was no battle there
was no fight it was patently obvious
that he wasn’t the boy that had been
diagnosed all those years ago and what
they said in the official medical report
confidential medical report from the NHS
Trust where we lived was that Timothy is
a neuro developmentally typical young
man and the label of Asperger’s syndrome
is not applicable
he has been discharged from my care and
that is to see it written down to see it
and I know this sounds awful but to see
it official really really brings it home
so as James developed and as James came
out of his his illness and came out of
his disease we wanted to do the same as
well and we were expecting probably an
even worse fight with James because we
thought again we’re going to take on the
might of the state here and these
professionals aren’t keen on being
proven wrong particularly with something
like autism because it is regarded as
being something that can’t be cured and
so when we went to see the psychologist
she said well this is wrong
this diagnosis is obviously not another
clickable to him he’s a normal boy he’s
perfectly capable of dealing and being
what you would regard as normal so she
wrote in her official confidential
psychology report that we only had last
week as a rules are also bad discussions
and my interactions and observations
with James during our appointment it is
clear there has been been significant
progress over time in all areas
associated with the tri-oval triad of
impairment with autism as a result the
label autism spectrum disorder is no
longer appropriate for James and should
be removed from any documentation and
the future that relates to him and and
you just you know you can’t when I read
that you just watch I just want to start
I just want to start crying really
because it’s just it’s not just what
we’ve experienced and it’s not just that
we know it but because this is now
official it means that forever and ever
so when we’ve gone when the boys are
mend when they’re old and they’re gray
they will or not have this with them
they will not have carried this burden
that they’ve had to carry in their young
lives they are free of it and the
authorities if you like have recognized
that as well and they won’t be
persecuted or hindered in any way for
what has happened when they
our children and I suppose for us well
for me certainly that’s the best thing
that we could have do for them the best
thing that we can do for both boys is to
give them a future that we didn’t think
that they were going to have and this
gives us that future sometimes you have
to pinch yourself to think well I’m
actually with the same two children you
know that were born to me because the
the change in in the way that we play
and the change in the way that they
relate to me is very pronounced a nice
to dream about all four of us going out
to dinner together and not worrying
about anything just like normal family I
used to dream that if we invited out to
other people’s houses we’d all just go
and it would be fine they wouldn’t even
know for now nothing we just be able to
go I used to dream about going to the
cinema eating popcorn and boys eating
popcorn watching movie together as a fan
all none of these things that we ever
done before
but we went to the cinema we bought the
popcorn we did it just as I had imagined
we are a normal family and I am the
mother of normal healthy children just
like Andrew said so that’s it
happy happy
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