At Healing Is Here, you’ll learn about the God who loves you and wants you well. You’ll hear from trusted Bible teachers sharing principles of healing straight from God’s Word. You’ll also hear testimonies from real people who have experienced healing. And you’ll be primed to receive your healing.

morning

day four

friday

oh my goodness these times in praise and

worship with you guys have just been

life-changing can you all agree

yeah amen

and we’re not done yet so i just want to

encourage you wherever you are at in

your healing journey this week

stay strong stay full of faith stay full

of expectancy amen

amen

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i won’t forget

the wonder of how you brought

deliverance

the exodus of my heart

cause you found me and you freed me held

back the waters for my release

oh yeah

away

you’re the god who fights for me lord of

every victory hallelujah

oh hallelujah

you have drawn apartheid

you have led me through the deep

hallelujah

oh hallelujah

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a cloud by day

is the time that you are with me

the fire by night

is the guiding light to my

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the god who fights for me

lord of every victory

hallelujah oh hallelujah

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you’re the god who fights for me lord of

every victory hallelujah

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led me hallelujah the deep hallelujah

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come on if the lord’s been good to you

this week let’s just give him a shot of

praise

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cause you

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and i will not forget

death is swallowed up forever

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and i will not forget

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cause you’re the god who fights for me

lord of every victory hallelujah

oh hallelujah

you have torn apartheid

you have

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lord of every victory hallelujah

oh

hallelujah come on sing it out

you have to

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oh hallelujah

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in our victory

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is

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is

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oh he is

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on put your hands together for jesus

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[Applause]

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hallelujah

thank you jesus

thank you jesus

oh yeah

so some of you might be thinking what is

up with this crazy girl

that stands on the stage

and can’t help but dance

and can’t help but rejoice

but if you knew what god has done for me

if you knew

how he set me free

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oh i once was

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i was lost

but i literally

can’t sing

jesus

oh he’s so good

he’s so good

so you know what i’d like to do right

now brian so

we overcome by the blood of the lamb in

the word of our testimony right audrey

so brian i want you to share

your testimony while i catch my breath

amen

oh man i shared a little bit of this at

the summer family bible conference but

about a year ago

um

i had a crazy experience happen to me

where basically i started getting

numbness in my feet and as the days went

on it started traveling up my legs and

into my arms and i was

basically paralyzed

and it ended up being this very rare

thing called guillain-barre syndrome and

they told me i could be paralyzed the

rest of my life

they told me it could travel into my

lungs and paralyze my respiratory system

and they said if i were to recover

and not have any side effects it would

take about 6-12 months to recover long

story short jesus was with me throughout

the whole process

i knew who i was in christ

and i’m laying in my hospital bed

listening to this song that we just sang

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and i asked the lord lord what should i

be doing while i’m on the bed he said

just sit there and rest i will fight for

you

and i’m here today

as a miracle

the lord took me out of my egypt

and he fought for me when i couldn’t

fight for myself

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within two weeks of getting out of the

hospital i was fully recovered

had all of my feeling back in my body

back to work back at the gym

and i’m here to say that he’s faithful

if you would just let him fight for you

he will do it amen he will do it let’s

sing that bridge again

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cause you stepped into my egypt and you

took me by the head

and you marched me out of freedom

into the promised land

and i will not forget you god i’ll sing

of all you’ve done death is swallowed up

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into the promised land

and i will not forget you god i’ll sing

before you’ve died death is swallowed

forever by the fury of your love

cause you’re the god who fights for me

lord of every victory hallelujah

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you have led

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hallelujah

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you have torn apart the sea

you have led me through the deep

hallelujah

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when we give you praise

oh we give you praise

for all you’ve done

for all you’ve done

we give you praise in this place we give

you praise in this place for all you’ve

done

for all you’ve done

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oh give us ears to hear

what you’re saying

to us

let us see

ourselves totally

free

oh let us see

what you’re working in us

give us ears

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give us eyes

that we see

that you set us

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free lift up your praises

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he’s

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father right now

let us see things we’ve never seen

before

let us hear things in a way we’ve never

heard

them before

for we cannot live by anything else

but by every word

that

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proceeds give us this day

our daily bread

let us right now pull up a seat at the

table

and take our place right now

at your table where there are gifts

awaiting

right now by faith

we see ourselves

seated at your table

seated

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we’re

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he is here

seated at the table

seated at the table

with a family

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do you guys realize we’re family

we have an eternity

and we don’t even know what that looks

like

with each other forever

this is a family

father give us

a heart

for our brother and our sister right in

front of us behind us beside us

let us actually see each other

yeah

let us get our eyes off ourselves

and let us see

those around us

make us vessels

that you can use our hands our feet

lord you can use me

oh i hold healing

in these hands

your hands

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oh just release it can you release it to

your family

oh

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oh just lift your hands let the healing

power flow

from your being

oh just

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jesus

jesus

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in this

in our lives

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it is

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right

now oh lord

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thank you for making it so simple

lord teach us not to make it complicated

simple faith the simple gospel and we

simply receive today

beautiful father

you did all the work for us

oh you took the penalty the punishment

you paid the price in full

so we can

receive father i

come

my words are few

like a child i’d reach out

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to bring me back home

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it’s really

simple

the way that you love

me

it’s not

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i complicated

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received the way that you love

me

no it’s not complicated

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i simply

received he had nothing

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and he brought me back home

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it’s really the symbol

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is

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is

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for what’s already mine

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jesus

i

don’t need

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don’t need to try

you’re already

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is

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is

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i’m not gonna try

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is

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what’s already

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the way that you love me

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i received

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just received

just receive

his love

just receive

his peace

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we receive

your strength

just receive

his power

just received

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so

cheese

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just let him speak right now

to you

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i know that we could take this moment to

to

have the gifts in operation or to

to declare things but can we just be

quiet can we just

let our hearts be quiet before him

just let him speak to those around you

even to your own just

in quietness and stillness let him speak

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his healing presence is healing power

just flowing over you like waves

just let him move let him do in you

do

just received

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just received

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i received

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i received

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is

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it’s really that simple

the way that you love

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complicated

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the way

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oh how many of you right now can raise

your hand and say you have

received from him this morning amen all

over this place

father thank you

thank you for a complete

work

thank you for complete

wholeness

body and soul

in jesus name well god bless you guys so

much thank you once again for letting us

be with our family and worship god

together

so we’ll um we’ll be back tonight but i

believe we have some videos for you guys

enjoy and receive all day amen amen

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we didn’t know there was a healing

conference but god told us to come to

keras

we had no plans of coming and last

monday the lord spoke to my husband and

said we need to go to kara’s bible i

don’t know why

and so we just decided to get some plane

tickets

and then we found out there was a

healing conference and all seven of us

needed healing and the lord just healed

us all at the same time

hallelujah

praise the lord

our daughter was born early she was born

at six months

and then she’s been in the nicu there’s

been a lot of health challenges she’s

not talking she’s not working yet

last year i got a vision that zoe her

name is zoe she’s going to be working

in the conference this year we’re

excited to be here we’re excited to see

zoe walk

and run but we’re just here to we know

that it’s god’s will for us for us to be

healed that we know we’re already healed

so we’re just here to renew our minds

and just get in line and get in sync

with what god has stopped for us

my favorite part of the conference was

when greg moore spoke and at the very

end he gave

some words of knowledge and one of them

was about sleep deprivation for the last

eight years i have had severe

restlessness and not being able to sleep

and trying different drugs and them not

working and more and more the minute he

said it i knew that that was me i didn’t

do any drugs last night and i slept

through the night

drug-free for the first time in eight

years

everyone has a part of their testimony

they all got the same end result they’re

all healed amen and maybe you’re sitting

there in the and you’re still on the

other side yet waiting and looking for

your healing okay you see we can’t just

be around healing we can’t just read

about healing we have to come to know

the healer healing isn’t a thing it

isn’t something that we do or or tarry

or strive healing isn’t something that

jesus does

is who he is

amen amen

good morning

welcome to the fourth day of healing is

here

2021.

are you still excited about what jesus

is gonna do

healing

as my friend carly tarades says that’s

who he is that’s who he is amen well

welcome again we are so glad that you

are here i’m gonna ask the question is

there anybody that this is your very

first session

amen

so glad that you could join us today we

have a power pack day for you

so even though you this is your first

session god has got something in store

online family thank you so much for

joining us today

if you are needing prayer please call

our phone line at 719-635-1111

there will be prayer ministry after the

sessions today just like they were this

morning so we encourage you to come down

and have our prayer ministers to agree

with you if this is your first time that

you have never been on campus

so even though it’s your first time to

this session if you’ve never been on

campus before we ask that you please go

to our first time visitors guests um

booth and they have a free gift for you

because we love to give away

product and we love to give things to

you because we want you to just know how

much we love you and how much god loves

you our resource areas as you see on the

concourse they are open

um after before and after the sessions

also oxygen drops some of you have been

asking about the oxygen drops

that must have worked for you amen

so they are actually they will help with

the altitude i said the first day about

drinking water drinking water and

drinking water well we also have oxygen

drops they are on sale in the bookstore

also

the bookstore these t-shirts they have

these red t-shirts

i’m not going to unwrap it it’s just

going to take too much time so we have

these red t-shirts only the red ones but

they are on sale today for ten dollars

what a bargain right

so i want you to go there see how many

you can get some for the whole family go

long mark matt go no i’m not gonna do

that

andrew’s looking at me i’m not andrew

throw it

andrew said throw it

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okay let’s decide

ready over here

let’s go let’s go

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that’s my quarterback throwing arm

see that’s how you get somebody ready

for healing is here on a monday morning

i’m just setting you up for miss carrie

picket that’s all

woo

that took a lot

if you have not visited our partner

booth we encourage you to do that and

find out all the ways that you can

connect with us here at

carris bible college

jesus

do i need those oxygen drops lord

how you can connect with us

at andrew wanwick ministries

and karis bible college

promotion

charis

promotion i know has anybody just signed

up yesterday to come to paris

i am looking

amen

i know it had to be one person

amen well you know what we encourage you

we have a courage both out there go and

talk to them

any questions you may have if there’s

something saying

i don’t know i like being here i think i

want to come and really stay here and go

to class from 8 to noon

that’s god that’s not the devil so go

and talk to

those at the booth online family you

know what you too can get connected if

you go to discoverkaris.com

or call us at 844-360-9570

relationship university oh i’m not even

lifting that man

this is a new one

no

i throw this at you let me tell you

something this thing is heavy

you know why because it’s power packed

with the word

that’s why

and this word will knock you completely

out

so

i am not gonna throw this it is heavy

but you know what it just lets you know

and i’m serious it is heavy it’s about

talking to you about the word of god

it’s so many lessons in his every kind

of relationship it’s not just a marriage

relationship

um some people have taken this and

they’ve come because we do relationship

university every monday so you can watch

us but i’m telling you why not take this

home

why not start bible studies about having

good relationships with siblings with

your husband with your wife and you know

just having good relationships god’s way

i guarantee you you will not be

disappointed because it’s power packed

because god’s word never fails amen

okay this

is empty

doesn’t have any cds in there but we

want you to know that you can take this

home

with you

you can take this home with you and

expect experience and power take this

home so you remember everything that

happened today so that you can get that

experience over and over and over again

amen we want you to do that

today are workshops

if you enjoy the workshops on tuesday

then we will have we have them again

today from two to four and it’s going to

be audrey mack

julianne hartman it’s not going to be

nikki because nikki is not here today

but we’re going to have uh jeremiah

class so we encourage you between two to

four oh hi

okay

okay

hi nicky

y’all really trying to throw me off my

game today

but that’s all right cause you know what

we have been having a holy ghost party

and you know i was thinking about this

this morning

in new jersey in the churches and the

places where i grew up we used to always

say ain’t no party like the holy ghost

party cause the holy ghost party don’t

stop

so we are having a holy ghost party so

i’m going to do a speed round of giving

out these giveaways so we can bring this

carry up so this is spirit soul and body

this is really the foundation of a lot

of stuff because people don’t realize we

have a body

we have a soul but we are spirit

and the spirit is truly the real you

so we are a three-part being

who is trying to find follow and fulfill

god’s will you really

you don’t know what it is that god has

for you

you know that god has something but you

don’t know what it is

matt is going to give this to you as

well

also

by carly and ashley teredes it’s called

manifesting miracles

you have a say in what you see and we

don’t unders i mean maybe some of you do

maybe some of you don’t but your words

have power

and it’s manifesting miracles so what

are you saying about what you want to

see

life and death is in the power of your

tongue it’s a usb and it has 10 video

and audio

sessions on it

my last giveaway

every day with jesus it’s a devotional

365 days of insight encouragement

spiritual growth and personal victory

god is good we have had so many

testimonies you saw a few of them up

there we also had a testimony of a

person that um they had cancer and the

prayer minister prayed for them and it

was right with the pain where the cancer

was and after the prayer minister prayed

for the uh janna prayed for the um

pain that was in her side

completely gone and so the person said

you know i heard that when the pain is

gone the cancer is gone no pain

whatsoever somebody else came up

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they had

pain in their knees bone on bone after

the prayer minister prayed no pain all

gone

another person had ringing in the ears

floating in the eyes after getting

prayer

no more pain they could clear they can

clearly see and they receive the baptism

of the holy ghost

god is good he is truly amazing and at

this time i bring to the stage

the president and founder of andrew

wommack ministries and carrich bible

college mr andrew walmack

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thanks gracie

good mission

thank you jesus

and it has been an awesome time i have

been so blessed

you know i just want to thank the praise

and worship group hadn’t that been

powerful our praise and worship

and all of the speakers the people that

have given testimonies you know this i

believe is a real testimony

to how the body of christ is supposed to

function instead of just one person or

something we’re a body and also let me

point out the obvious that you know here

in our nation it seems like we’re more

divided than we’ve ever been and there’s

so much division and things going on and

yet right here we’ve got people of every

color we got people from different

countries and man we all love each other

and we’re getting along and

the body of christ

is the answer

for all of this division matter of fact

um butch and julian you know that guy

steve what’s his name that does the

praise and worship

you were telling me about him you all

volunteered him to be on truth and

liberty

sean foye anyway i just saw a thing this

morning where in portland you know they

had some christians to get together and

sing and antifa showed up and uh anyway

there was conflict and so yesterday i

think they had all of the christians or

a lot of christians hundreds thousands

of them show up antifa showed up

and they just welcomed them sang and

worshiped the lord and some of the

antifa guys got born again

it was awesome

and so they have a video of one of the

antifa guys just sitting there crying

and getting born again

i tell you

the body of christ we are the only hope

for the world

and we’ve got to get these truths out

and that’s what we’re doing

and

man thank you for being a part of this

it’s been awesome this week i want to

give you another opportunity to give

this morning they’re going to pass out

these envelopes as i’m

speaking but you know i’ve been talking

from second corinthians

chapter nine and i think i’ve done three

offerings on that and we ended up with

second corinthians 9

10 where it says god give seed to the

sower and bread to the eater and

multiply your seeds on and increase the

fruits of your righteousness and if you

just continue on in that chapter

uh he’s talked about the reason you give

is because if you want a lot you got to

sow a lot if you sow a little you only

get a little there’s different

motivations for giving but the ultimate

motivation is second corinthians 9 15

which says thanks be unto god

for his unspeakable gift

did you know the greatest reason to give

is just out of gratitude

gratitude for what god has done how do

you ever pay god back

these people that have been healed

there’s no way you can pay god back but

you can express gratitude and that’s

what healing is

or excuse me offering is that’s what an

offering is you’re expressing your

gratitude for all of the things god has

done whether it’s healing or your

salvation as tessa was so excited

praising the lord this morning just

thanking god for

touching her life and

i tell you giving is a great expression

of gratitude it’s one thing to say oh

god i love you and and he does inhabit

our praises and he loves that

but it needs to be something tangible

and you know i was thinking about this

this morning and i just want to share

with you out of uh

second samuel chapter 24

and i’m not going to take time to go

through the whole thing

but david had sinned against the lord

and god gave him a choice of three

things and there was this angel that was

going through the nation of israel and

destroying people now we live under a

different covenant our judgment has been

placed upon jesus and praise god jesus

because of him we aren’t going to

experience these same things but there’s

still things to learn through this

experience and so anyway an angel of the

lord was standing over jerusalem with a

sword drawn

in his hand and he was about to slay the

people in jerusalem and the lord opened

up david’s eyes and he saw this angel

standing there with his sword

and david when he saw it he fell on his

face and began to beseech the lord

and this man was standing i mean this

angel was standing over a man’s uh

uh what do you call it

threshing floor

and uh when david saw it he went to this

man this man’s name was aruna i think is

the way it’s pronounced here it’s got a

different name over in second chronicles

giving the same story

but it says uh let me just read a

portion of this

he went to aruna

the king and he and when aruna saw him

and man i wish i had time to teach on

this but you know this man was a

jebusite

the jebusites were the one that david

went in and he was going to conquer the

city that we now call jerusalem and the

jebusites said you can’t come in here

unless you take the blind and the lame

those are the only people we’ll give you

and david said man i hate the blind and

the lame whoever goes up and kills uh

takes this city and kills all the blind

and the lame he’ll be my captain over my

army turned out that joab his cousin

went in and destroyed them and david

took over the city and killed all of the

jebusites especially the blind and the

lame

just out of hatred for the way that they

had snubbed him and aruna was a jebusite

and this was in the same generation

he could have hated david

and yet when david came he fell on his

face before him

and it says in verse 21 and aruna said

wherefore

is my lord the king

come to his servant and david said to

buy the threshing floor of thee to build

an altar unto the lord that the plague

may be stayed from the people and aruna

said unto david let my lord the king

take and offer up what seemeth good unto

him

behold here be oxen for burnt sacrifice

and threshing instruments and other

instruments of the oxen for wood so he

offered all of the yokes the threshing

instruments everything that was wood you

can you can burn these to make the fire

and i give you all of my oxen and you

can use my oxen

for the offering

and it says in verse 23 and all these

things did aruna as a king give unto the

king and aruna said unto the king the

lord thy god accept thee

and look at this arunus said nay but i

will surely bite of thee at a price

neither will i offer burnt offerings

unto the lord my god

of that which doth cost me nothing

so david brought the threshing floor and

the oxen for 50 shekels of silver and it

goes on that he offered the sacrifice

and god heard his

prayer and the city of jerusalem was

stayed and the plague was stayed but

this is really interesting that david

somebody offered him all of the things

that it took for a sacrifice and he

could have offered them but he said i

won’t offer unto god that which costs me

nothing

you know there’s a lot of people that if

somebody came and said here why don’t

you give this in the offering a lot of

people think man that’s awesome i don’t

have to give my own money i’ll just give

this money that somebody else gave me

david said i won’t do something like

that

i’m not gonna it’s not a sacrifice

unless it’s a sacrifice

you need to give

and when you give you are giving a

portion of what you have you are

sacrificing something and

it’s just to say thanks

you know little children when they first

start out you say say thank you and they

just do it out of obedience

because you’re the boss

and you tell them say thank you and then

as they get older they start saying

thank you because they see it modeled

and they start imitating you and they

see this is the way you live you are and

then they as they get older they may

start saying well man this uh is a way

of making friends and they do it for

maybe

selfish reasons but you know what you

really want

is not the child to do it because

they’re afraid they’re going to be

punished if they don’t do it because

they’re sitting there watching you and

they’re just modeling you or because

they see how it’s going to advantage

them but what you really want your

children to do is get to a place to

where it’s just in their heart

to say thank you and be kind

and there’s a lot of christians that the

only time they give is god tells them

you give

they give out of obedience because the

word says and that’s a starting place

and you do need to do that and then you

do need to give when god tells you

specifically some people will say let’s

everybody pray and ask the lord what do

you want you to give and there are times

he will give you a specific amount i’ve

done that many times and yes you should

listen to the holy spirit and give but

you know what the highest form of giving

is like it says in second

corinthians chapter 9 verse 15 thanks be

unto god for his unspeakable gift

you just give because man look god has

given so much to you you just want to

you want to bless god back how can you

say thanks

you can say the words but man you need

to sacrifice something you need to take

a portion of what you’ve got and give it

to the lord and when you do that i

guarantee you the plague will be stayed

god inhabits the praises of his people

amen

so i want to encourage you today to give

and just give out a thanksgiving for all

of the great things god has done and you

can even give him faith for all the

great things he’s going to do what

you’re believing for amen

so father we love you and we thank you

that you have given so much for us thank

you that you gave your son and that he

satisfied your wrath so that we will

never

have a death angel come and want to

smite us or to smite our country

father thank you that you’re only good

and we just give out a thanksgiving

today for all that you’ve done for us

we are so thankful father for your

presence here with us all of the great

things you’ve done this week and we also

give an anticipation for all the great

things you are going to do

and we thank you in the mighty name of

jesus amen praise god y’all can pass the

offering so this is daniel amstutz he’s

going to introduce mike and kerry let me

just say i love mike and kerry yes you

do i want

he’ll give you a proper introduction but

you know i’ve known kerry since she was

10 years old

and man she’s been with us a long long

time and i believe she’s going to be

with us a long long time boy

amen

what an incredible week it’s been

everybody and we’re so excited for today

and all that god has in store for us as

i know you are as well i could hear it

in the sound of your worship this

morning man hasn’t it been great to be

here this week

amen

well in 1999 carrie pickett graduated

from keras bible college and i’ve

decided carrie that the reason you’re so

full of faith is because you did that

before y2k

i remember in the year 2000 the world

was supposed to end

right

uh back in tulsa there was a man who

wrote a book on it was entitled uh

88 reasons why jesus is coming back

and it was supposed to be he was coming

back in 1988

well when he didn’t come back he wrote a

sequel

and the sequel was 89 reasons why jesus

is coming back in 1989. listen i’m

telling there’s been people who’ve been

trying to predict and declare and the

world’s going to end in 2000 and here we

still are hallelujah and god has great

things for all of us and when i think of

kerry pickett i think of a lady who is

just bold in the holy ghost after

graduating from karis bible college she

went over to russia as a single lady and

she established keras bible college

after she met her husband now her

husband mike pickett

and she was believing god for an

american husband and god brought the two

of them together and can i just say

after she was engaged

nine times

i’m telling you god brought the best

the best

and they established uh

several bible colleges not just one but

several in russia they reached out to 10

different russian russian speaking

countries while they were there you guys

the influence that they’ve had in this

country is just really profound and then

god directed them to come back to

colorado praise god

and i brought up my phone with me

because i want to tell you properly here

carrie is now the assistant vice

president of keras bible college

huge the director of international

operations for andrew wommack ministries

the director of charis bible college

woodland park and the director of the

global training school can we add any

more directorships here to this lady’s

plate ladies and gentlemen would you

join me in welcoming a woman of god

kerry pickett this morning as she comes

to share the word of god with us

thank you

good morning

am i on all right

well i was not engaged nine times

i had eight proposals though

so but not engaged that’s all mike was

like you’re gonna have to fix that when

i got out there

well i am really excited to share with

you um you know sometimes i’ll share at

the beginning of a conference and

sometimes it’ll be at the end and i’m

really excited to be able to share at

the end of this conference and i know

we’re going to send it off with a bang

tonight with andrew ministering this

evening

but i know that the lord has some really

good things to share with you and i’ll

just say just meeting many of you

talking with you hearing your

testimonies your stories this is an

amazing group of people

look at look around you and tell the

person actually you are amazing

yes

because

i just i love the spirit in this room

and the faith and the worship and it is

so awesome to be together and know that

we get to touch the world together amen

and that you’ve got spheres of people

and influence around you that andrew

myself the rest of the staff will never

touch

and so god just didn’t bring you here to

touch you deeply and encourage you and

transform you

but let me tell you he did this so that

as you go back home there’s people that

god is going to have you touch

and in this atmosphere you’ve been bold

and you’ve been free and i encourage you

to take that boldness and that freedom

back with you amen

well i just want to honor andrew and

jamie for

just

all that they allow mike and i to serve

them and serve this ministry and it is a

pleasure and it changes us every single

day it causes us to be dependent upon

god and and grow and be stretched and

stretched

and stretched

and stretched and so it’s awesome if you

can handle the stretch hallelujah

so we are just really really privileged

and can i just recognize all of our

staff i know so many of them are working

out in the hallways but staff and and

student volunteers can you guys stand up

if we have any of our staff here in the

building can you stand up

amen

these guys are amazing and

this

our staff we have over

600 and

we have a lot of employees over 600 here

stateside plus internationally all

serving and building the kingdom

together and so we are just so

privileged to do this as a team and

really as a family of ministers that is

ministering all over the world so for

everyone who’s making this conference

happen behind the scenes behind the

cameras uh just thank you for for

ministering to this group and to all of

our live stream audience we are so

excited that you’re joining us and i

think my mom is watching so hi mom

so um what i want to do this morning is

i brought the whiteboard

okay so a whiteboard is like

i don’t know it it’s just amazing for a

teacher because you know

what i want to do is i want to draw some

things up and you know i’m going to

share some principles that you know as

i’ve been listening to everybody and

this is and some of you maybe even heard

me share this before some of you have

heard it in

a course that you might have taken but

i’m going to talk about some foundations

this morning and i’m going to talk about

how these foundations work when it comes

to healing now it doesn’t just work for

healing it works for everything else i’m

going to show you that as well but i

want to show you six things that

absolutely revolutionized my life

six things that

changed really for me what it meant to

have relationship with god

and you know so many people when we talk

about relationship with god or intimacy

with god most people what does that mean

what does it mean to have relationship

with god

and they can and especially if we’ve

come from a law background relationship

look like we read so much we pray so

much we give so much we serve so much

right

and so there’s these things that we

check off and so then when we start to

come into the grace message we’re like

now what’s different

well we still read we still pray we

still fast we still serve but now it’s

from a different direction right it’s

from a different motivation it’s from a

different fullness instead of trying to

get something from god we’ve already

received and now we get to have

relationship back to him

and so

i i would share these things in bible

school in russia and like daniel said i

moved to russia when i was 21

and we established um with a team that

had graduated we established uh kerris

bible college there in different uh

central russia and then we moved up to

the arctic circle and did a school and

then eventually we landed in st

petersburg russia

and so i was there for a total of 16

years

and during that time i met my husband

and he’s the most handsome one in the

room so you will totally know who he is

and um

and so

and

so

god did some amazing things and when we

started ministering and i’ll just tell

you when the way you minister the gospel

to a nation

or any nation or your family the way you

minister the gospel is you just minister

it with the simplicity that it is

not making it harder and so i want to

share these six principles so um grab

your pen and paper because i want you to

take notes

um

because these are things that it’s not a

one-time revelation

how’d i do

yes i was pretty sure it was gonna end

up being an egg the six points of the

egg but

it’s gonna be

okay we’re gonna talk about six things

and guys this is usually

an eight-hour course

so i’m really excited you’ve committed

eight hours to me this is awesome

uh no so what we’re going to talk about

is these are six things that are

foundational to understanding something

very very key and that is the whole goal

of the cross

the whole goal of the cross and what god

wanted to establish and bring to us in

the gospel the good news

was major massive things but i found

that these six things incorporate so

much of the word of god and they’re not

a one-time thing it’s something you and

i continually get to grow in and i’m

gonna do this fast so take notes so the

first one

is an understanding

of god’s love

for you

can we do it in black

better

all right god’s love

for

you

and here i found that this is so

imperative when we talk about the gospel

and we talk about relationship with god

and when we talk about healing

because

religion teaches it is your love for god

and that’s what the love of god has

become this message of your love for god

if you love god you’re going to do this

and if you love god you’re going to

serve this and if you love god you’re

going to give in the offering today like

this and if you love god you’re going to

help in the children’s ministry in the

youth ministry

right until we don’t have time we don’t

have money and we don’t like kids right

and then we’re thinking well i don’t

love god right and so

religion will say it’s your love for god

right what you do for him

and what i love about grace and what i

love about the cross it was all a

demonstration of god’s love for you

and it was all this towards you

and so now you and i get to experience

this love of god and i will say this

this is so important when we talk about

healing

because

if we understand how much god loves us

then healing becomes so easy to receive

and it’s like we were singing this

morning it’s not complicated

i simply receive

and for a lot of us it’s hard to receive

because we don’t know what it’s like to

really be loved

and we still think that god is

disappointed in us

we still feel like what i mean yeah i

would love to have this and yeah i know

they say god loves me and yes god loves

everybody but making it yours and taking

ownership of this revelation will

absolutely change your life

because in each of these points i’ll

tell you when you get a hold of them it

gives you an attitude because when you

know that you are loved of god

it doesn’t matter what anyone else says

it doesn’t matter what the doctors say

it doesn’t matter what your body says

i am loved of god

and so what we have to do is

push away

all of the definitions of love

that you have within your story and past

husbands wives current husbands wives

whatever it is you have this hardness

and this kind of arm’s length like okay

love all right

but i’ll tell you if you can

surrender to the love of god it will

absolutely transform you and that was

the goal of the cross

was to reveal his love can i read a

couple scriptures

i’m gonna actually read these scriptures

out of

our new book

and so mike and i wrote a book uh called

life foundations

yay

so and in the back of this book

there’s a whole bunch of scriptures on

each of these points

because we can talk about growing in an

understanding of something and be like

yeah i want to grow and understand how

much god loves me where do i go

go to john 3 16 right that’s the only

one we know for god so loved the world

that he gave his only begotten son

but these scriptures are absolutely

powerful and so i want you to turn to

titus chapter 3 verses 4 through 7.

and it talks about this it says but when

the kindness and love of god our father

appeared he saved us not because of

righteous things we had done but because

of his mercy again not because of our

love for god

but because of his love

amen

and so many times even though we’ve

gotten a hold of the revelation of grace

it’s really easy to slip back into

i’ve got to do these things right

because that’s what we do in the world

right i love you if

i love you win

i love you because

right and so then if somebody breaks our

trust or something happens and and we

get disappointed or we feel rejected

what happens is or we feel like we

disappointed someone now we feel like

we’ve got to earn it back praise god

god’s not like that

amen we can be knuckleheads

and turn around and say father

here i am and he’s like i love you

isn’t that awesome

because sometimes we’ll get disappointed

in our own bodies our own struggles our

own issues and because we’re

disappointed in ourselves

or listening to the voices of other

people’s disappointment of us

we think that god is disappointed in us

but can i tell you today that you are

loved

by the father

he looks at you and is like

that is my favorite

except when he looks at me i’m his

favorite favorite

when you know that you when god looks at

you

he’s not looking at you like

my gosh

right

he’s looking at you like

oh my goodness look at them aren’t they

awesome

you know so many times i look at my

children

and if i can have my children stand up

ellie and michael can you stand up

these are my two beautiful barbers

turn around

turn around smile where’s everybody

so eliana and michael and so many times

i look at them and i’m like

you’re so cute

and god’s like you know i said that same

thing about you

and i’m thinking when would god say that

about me

and i thought you know when i’m up on

stage she’s like oh she’s so cute

it’s my girl right

and so the thing is is when god looks at

you he’s not disappointed

goes on to say he saved us through the

washing of rebirth and renewal by the

holy spirit whom he poured out on us

generously through jesus christ our

savior so that having been justified by

his grace we might become

heirs having the hope of eternal life

because of this love of god we get to

experience what it now means to be a

child of god

first john chapter 3 verses 1 and 2

behold what manner of love the father

has bestowed on us that we should be

called children of god

therefore the world does not know us

because it did not know him beloved now

we are children of god and it has not

yet been revealed what shall be but we

know that when he is revealed we shall

be like him for as he is shall he

no excuse me for we shall see him as he

is

amen when i look at this you are a child

of god and we’ve got to get to that

place where this is a foundation for us

that i and you’re saying this about

yourself i am loved of god

that is that is a revelation and i’ll

tell you right now and this is what is

so beautiful ephesians chapter three

when you start verse 14 15 16 17 18 19

20 it’s all the love of god and it talks

about that we

would understand the love of god

that we would understand with all the

saints what is this love

and that we would know the width the

depth and the height and the breadth of

god’s love i’ll tell you even though you

may have gotten a revelation of god his

love at one time he has more for you

this is a beautiful foundation this is a

revelation that once you as you continue

to grow in this understanding of god’s

love for you

it makes everything in the word come

alive

and i’ll tell you it gives you an

attitude of faith

wait a minute excuse me devil you messed

with me i’m loved of god

who are you touching

when our kids get sick we’ll be like no

no no no the devil can’t touch you

you’re loved of god who does the devil

think he is

right

when you go to pray for people

i’ll tell you when you get a revelation

of god’s love it’s not hard to pray for

people because when they say hey i’m

just i’m struggling with cancer you’re

like awesome no problem for the love of

god

because the love is what took him to the

cross

it was for the joy set before him that

he endured the cross what joy the joy of

you getting to experience his salvation

and all the love that that was

amen that was the joy they’re gonna know

how much i love them

it goes on to say this

in first john chapter 4 verse 7 through

11 it says beloved let us love one

another for god is

for love is of god and everyone who

loves is born of god and knows god he

who does not love does not know god for

god is love it’s the essence of who he

is it’s his personality it’s everything

that he does and operates out of is only

love it’s not awesome it’s never

punishment it’s never he’s never harsh

it’s only love and he goes on to say

this

in this the love of god was manifest

towards us that god sent his only

begotten son into the world that we

might live through him in this is love

not that we love god but that he loved

us and sent his son to be the

propitiation for our sins beloved if god

so loved us we also ought to love one

another when we understand that god’s

love was demonstrated on the cross

hallelujah

when we see this is the whole reason he

wanted to he died for us it was to save

us but it was to show us that we were

loved that there could there no longer

had to be any distance between us

amen

i’m going to encourage you

and i’ve said this before and some of

you have even come up to me in this

conference and given me testimonies

which i love listening to these

testimonies and we always say this we

say ask the lord today lord show me how

much you love me

because i’m telling you god wants to

show off

how much he loves you

lord show me how much you love me

and i and you know what i’m careful that

i don’t tell god how i want to love you

lord show me how much you love me

because i’d like this today and this

today and this today instead just saying

lord you are love and so you know how to

reveal yourself to me so lord show me

how much you love me today

i think it’s one of the most active

prayers you can pray in an intimate

relationship with the lord because what

you’re doing is you’re opening your

heart and saying god i know who you are

your god of love so help me see that and

you’re going to find it in the word

you’re going to find it in different

situations you’re going to find

blessings of god there’s things god’s

always showing you even right now how

much you love he loves you but we

haven’t seen it

because our hearts have been hard

and so when you ask the lord lord show

me how much you love me this is

absolutely powerful and this is a

foundation so i’m going to jump into the

next one and again we could we have

eight hours just on the love of god that

we teach here at karis bible college

and there are hundreds and hundreds and

hundreds of scriptures about the love of

god you know how i know

i found them all

all right

and so what i used to do when i was in

russia the lord told me he said kerry i

need i need two things i need two things

that you need to understand and i was

like okay and he says i want you

to discover how much i love you

and he said and then i want you to

understand the value of the word

and those were the two things that were

my prayers and what i kept digging into

what is the value of the word lord this

to love truth

and to understand how much god loved me

you know why because that was the

message that ultimately transformed me

but it’s also the message that i began

to teach to the russians

god is not a communist dictating god

he is a god of love

and he’s a father what’s a father

they had no idea what are fathers right

what is a leader that’s not a dictating

communist lead party leader

and so to come in and share the love of

god absolutely transform so i had to

understand that and i’ll tell you when

you understand the love of god and you

listen you can minister to anyone no

matter what they’re going through if you

understand how much god loves you and

how much god loves them

amen you can minister to them on any

subject

we’ve had people come in with horrible

violent

devastating things that have happened to

them

and we start ministering the simple love

of god and it absolutely

heal and deliver them

you know you may be like i’d love to

minister to people but i don’t know 50

years of the word like andrew

you need to know 50 years of the word

start right now with understanding the

love of god

and you will see people set free so the

next foundation

black

spirit soul and body

guys let me tell you if you haven’t

bought this

out there

please buy this before you leave

anything that’s on spiritual body

because when we understand spirit soul

and body i’ll tell you this is a huge

foundation this is a whole goal of the

cross that he says now i want to live

within you

this is what’s so beautiful about

spiritual body can i have mitchell

michael and eliana come up here

all right i’ll bring my kids

they’ll have to put down um you know

their lego the lego we were building

legos yesterday weren’t we michael

all right so spirit stolen body can you

guys come up here just real quick

aren’t they good looking you’re good

looking too

mom good looking earth is so cute

ah okay so

you can smile

okay um

okay so when we talk about spiritual and

body okay i’ll do a little coaching next

time smile um

you’re doing good smiling all right so

when you talk about spiritual and body

spirit soul body all right i’m just

gonna do a quick example for you

when um spirit can you sit down ellie

for a second she’s like yes all right

when we’re not born again right we’re

just we are

operating with god only in our flesh

our soul

and so there’s this separation from god

that’s what god called death

but when we get saved when we become

born again it says that we become a new

creation in christ jesus behold old

things have passed away behold all

things have become new so ellie stand up

thank you and so

when we get saved we now have the spirit

of god living inside of us

we had a yay fun

long day yesterday we’re half asleep

and um so we get born again and it says

that the spirit of god comes to live

inside of us

and so now you know when it says we’re a

new creation does that mean our soul our

mind our will and our emotions you’re so

cute and our mind our will and our

emotions

and our body does it become new

overnight

do we lose all of our memories and all

of our

emotional

issues

do we become buff and broad and

beautiful overnight

you are already that but

do we lose 50 pounds the moment we get

saved

oh don’t we wish

all right it’d be the best diet plan for

the world get saved receive jesus lose

weight okay

we get them all okay

so our body doesn’t change and our mind

doesn’t change but now it says that here

is the new creation the power of god

that lives with inside of us right

and so what’s so amazing and this is why

this is such a foundation when we talk

about the gospel is that god is not

trying to descend and and leave and come

upon like the prophets of old

we said he now came to live and dwell

among us

he came to live inside of you and i

guys

excuse me

this is such a powerful revelation

because what happens is we see ourselves

this way

we always see ourselves this way

versus what what’s supposed to happen is

we’re supposed to see ourselves this way

right we’re supposed to see the power

and the life of god inside that’s what

it says to set your mind on the things

of the spirit and what you will walk

after the spirit so here’s the thing

about healing

so many times we’re focused on our body

what does it feel like

are we tired today are we sore today

right and we’re letting our flesh tell

us

who we are

we’re letting our symptoms tell us if

we’re healed or not

instead of saying no i know who i’m in

the spirit

jehovah rapha the lord god the healer

lives inside of you and i

hallelujah and let me tell you something

right now and this is powerful when you

got saved

you did not receive a baby jesus

hallelujah

little tiny baby jesus in a manger oh

you’re a new believer oh you’re baby

christian i’m so excited yay

guys let me tell you right now it was

not a baby jesus that came to live

inside of you it was the king of kings

and the lord of lords and the lion of

the tribe of judah

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right i’m talking about king of kings

and lord of lords yeah that’s exciting

isn’t it

okay

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so this this the spirit of god now what

makes us baby christians

right here guys

it is the mind

it is immature

cute but immature

okay

right and if we don’t if we don’t get in

the word if we don’t understand how much

god loves us if we don’t look at the

word and it talks about the word is a

mirror so when you

are

looking at the word of god when you’re

spending time in the word what are you

doing can you hold this up with loud

without letting anything fall out when

you’re looking at the word of god what

are you doing you’re looking at who you

really are in the spirit

this is who i really am the flesh is

going to try to tell you no this is who

you really are

right no this is who you are no this is

not who you are as cute as you are you

this is not the real you this is the

real you

this is the real you so no matter what

your body’s telling you if it says

you’re healed that’s the real you

oh you’re so cute

okay

hallelujah this is powerful and really

guys this right here this is why i’m so

excited and so proud and so

energized by you being here because what

you said is that this part of you you’re

going to renew it to the word

you’ve spent time this whole week

focusing

focusing

on the mirror on the real you now your

body has been trying to tell you things

even while you’re sitting here right

your body’s been trying to tell you i

don’t know it didn’t work for i didn’t

know it worked for my neighbor it didn’t

work for you

oh the pain is still there and you’re

letting your body tell you in the midst

of us teaching the word of god their

bodies trying to scream and and run

right

your body’s trying to tell you who you

really are and you have to make a

determination no this is the real

me i know who i am and as you put your

eyes on the word of god i’m going to

walk by the spirit i’m going to set my

mind and my eyes on the things of the

spirit and i will walk after the spirit

but if you set your mind on the things

of the flesh what happens you will walk

after the flesh

now does it mean that god doesn’t love

you no he’s still inside of you this is

what is so powerful he said i will never

leave you and i will never forsake you

even if you determine and decide to be

carnally minded

he said but carnally minded

is death

but to be spiritually minded is

life and peace

amen he said set your mind on the things

of the spirit

get into the word get into this

understanding like i know who i really

am when you look in the mirror your

body’s going to try to tell you things

and you have to say no i know who i

really am

and that’s why spiritual embody when you

look into the word of god you’re not

looking at someone who’s who’s

unqualified still has to go the distance

still has to earn god’s grace and favor

now when you open up that word you see i

am loved of god

it is mine

amen

you guys

did amazing it did amazing

smiles

all right

i love torture in my children

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so when we talk about spirit soul and

body this is powerful because

it says but of him first corinthians

chapter 1 verse 30.

it talks about but of him you are in

christ jesus who became for us wisdom

from god and righteousness and

sanctification and redemption when we

got filled with the spirit of god praise

god we became the righteousness of god

you became righteous let me tell you

guys

righteousness does not include sickness

you became righteous in christ jesus

we always tell our kids that when they

start to get

sore throat or you know start to feel

ill we’re like wait there’s no room in

you

for sickness

there’s no room in you for sickness you

are wall to wall top to bottom inside

out filled with jesus the spirit of god

lives inside of you sickness has no

place there’s no room we rent out to

sickness hallelujah

and it was amazing because this part

this revelation and we teach this to our

kids all the time

that because god lives inside of you

the healer lives inside of you and i’m

jumping ahead a little bit in my message

the healer lives inside of you

and instead of praying

and guys this this changed my life i’ll

tell you these revelations changed my

life because i started to see myself

as someone

who was healed

right versus someone trying to get my

healing

you and i are not empty vessels full of

sickness and god’s out there and we’re

trying to pull god in and pull the

healing power of god inside of us

that’s not

how it works that’s not what this cross

did for us instead when we received

jesus the king of kings the lord of

lords jehovah rapha the lord god our

healer made his dwelling place within us

so now you and i start to see ourselves

as we are healed of the lord

and we’re not trying to get healing to

come in we’re rebuking sickness out

no no no you there’s no get out

hallelujah that revelation absolutely

transformed

how i walk in health

how i resist the enemy when the enemy

tries to come steal kill and destroy no

there is no room for you in my body

i am filled with god

so this revelation is life-changing okay

next foundation

how god sees you

now

this may seem simple but this is really

really important

because

you can listen to the word of god

and you can look at god and look at

other people and not make it personal

and i’ll tell you this is where it comes

from head knowledge

to truly our hearts it’s like i know how

god sees me

and when god sees you this is what’s so

powerful when god sees you what does he

see

he sees jesus

but what does he see when god sees you

he sees his spirit

when god sees you he sees

his love for you ah look at that

when he sees you he’s like oh they are

healed he sees everything that the word

of god is saying righteousness and

holiness and sanctification and and

having the power and the life of god

having wisdom and knowledge and

understanding when he sees you that’s

how he sees you

but what we do many times is we’re

looking at ourselves

yes yes someday i’ll have those things

in the sweep by and by

if i can just get these things fixed

about me

right and we’re trying to fix ourselves

in the flesh

so that we can be these things in the

spirit versus understanding when god

sees you he sees his spirit

and so now we’re standing up and saying

yeah that’s the real me

and so then he teaches us and this is

what’s so beautiful about them the work

of the holy spirit

is he’s teaching us to walk out

who we are in the spirit and bring it to

our physical bodies walk out who we are

in the spirit so it transforms our

emotions our will our desires and so

when people see us in the flesh what are

they seeing they actually begin to see

the light and the salt of the gospel

because we’ve allowed this

transformation of the word to take place

within our lives i’m going to keep going

ahead because we’re running out of time

as they talk about time transforms and

speeds up on stage i’ve also determined

that it speeds up when you’re around

children i look at my children i’m like

why are you growing

so we tell the kids they’re in trouble

every day they wake up and i’m like you

disobeyed and they’re like what you grew

again

all right how god sees you next

foundation is

your identity in christ

okay this is important you may say well

isn’t how

how god sees you

and identity in christ the same thing

no

you know what’s powerful about identity

in christ is i can say oh god loves me

and i can hear messages about how god

loves me and i can hear messages about

who i am in the spirit

what i’ve now become as a new creation

who i am as a son or daughter of god i

can hear those messages i can hear when

god looks at you he sees you know a

world changer and when god looks at you

he sees you healed when god looks at you

he sees you prosperous

and i can hear all kinds of messages to

that

and i can say

hallelujah amen up here

but let me tell you this is key because

right here an identity in christ is when

you have begun to see yourself the way

that god sees you

it’s when you come into agreement with

all of these messages and all of these

truths

so when you start to say

you know what i see myself as anointed

i see myself as righteous i see myself

as healed i see myself that i have i

have the wisdom of god for every

situation for every family member no

matter what’s going on when you see

yourself no matter what your bank

account says or your body says you say i

see myself prosperous i see myself

healed i see myself as a call of god on

my life

this is identity in christ

when you’ve come into agreement with

what the word has said about you and it

goes from here to here

so when you look at yourself in the

mirror when your body is crying out and

trying to bring up symptoms no no no no

i know how i see myself

i see myself

as the healed of the lord i see myself

as the righteousness of god i see myself

as a child of god with might and power

and wisdom

amen and authority and so when you see

yourself that way that’s absolutely

powerful i want to turn to a scripture

here real quick

romans chapter 8

verses 15 through 17 it says for you did

not receive the spirit of bondage again

to fear but you receive the spirit of

adoption by whom we cry out abba father

the spirit himself bears witness with

our spirit that we are children of god

and if children then heirs heirs of god

and joint heirs with christ if indeed we

suffer with him and we may also be

glorified together

this dynamic

when the spirit himself bears witness

with your spirit you are a child of god

and you don’t just say oh yeah amen

hallelujah someday

have you ever underlined and highlighted

your bible with the attitude of someday

yeah

someday i’m gonna heal the sick

someday i’m going to cleanse the lepers

ooh someday i’m going to cast out demons

hallelujah

well you know what’s key about those

verses

it says freely we have

received

now freely give you know what i love is

that you and i are not having tried to

work

towards anointing or work towards

righteousness or work towards our

healing it’s been freely given to you

and i

amen

it’s been freely given to us and because

it’s been freely given to us now we can

freely give

and why i believe and this goes back to

what audrey was saying last night the

reason why we’re

timid and meek and fearful and quiet is

because you don’t know we don’t know

what we’ve freely been given because if

we understood what we’ve freely been

given through the cross if we understand

how loved we are

who lives inside of us how he sees us

then what happens you start to go yeah

hallelujah that’s who i am

and it changes your identity and this is

what i love when you understand how much

god loves you and when you know that the

spirit of god is inside of you and you

know that daddy god’s looking at you and

being like oh i love you you’re so cute

right when you know god is looking at

you that way i tell you right now your

identity is not moved by what other

people say about you

oh they don’t like that i go to karis

they didn’t like that i went to the

healing conference they don’t like i

speak in tongues they don’t like that i

always talk about the word of god it

doesn’t matter

hallelujah

it doesn’t matter

and not that we’re rude or snotty back

to them but there’s a confidence and an

assurance

i know my god

so whether you receive me or not it

doesn’t sway me you’re not constantly

deflated when someone rejects you

hallelujah

you’re not constantly like oh what

should i do what should i do when

someone disagrees with you and starts to

manipulate you with their offenses

no you know what if you want to be

offended have fun with that but me on

the other hand i know how god sees me

you know what i

there’s many many many things i love

about andrew

many

but when we were going through the

lawsuits and things like that and you

know all these papers are saying all

this kind of stuff

andrew said something one time and i

loved it and i was like

yeah he said you know what

i don’t give a rip

do you remember saying that

and i was like yeah

you know what you get a place it’s not

it’s not condemnation it’s not judgment

towards them it’s just like you know

what i don’t care

guys i’ll tell you you can change the

world when you don’t care what the world

says about you

hallelujah

you’ll start walking in miracle signs

and wonders when you don’t care if

they’re gonna think that you’re crazy or

weird

hallelujah

because you’ve got these foundations

wait i’m loved of god the spirit of god

lives within me i know when god looks at

me he’s like you’re well able you’re

well able you’re well able

amen and so you start to look at

yourself i’m well able

ah time okay

next life foundation

the true nature of god

and this

is interesting because it’s throughout

all of this

right it’s a foundation that once you

understand who your god is and that’s

why i love spending time in the word of

god because as you spend time in the

word

john chapter word john chapter word john

chapter 1

it says the word was made flesh

and dwelt among us jesus if you’ve seen

me you’ve seen the father we’ve already

talked about those scriptures right when

we read this word

right you’re you’re getting to know the

father you’re getting to know your

savior you’re getting to know your

healer jehovah shama the lord god who’s

always present

jehovah said canoe the lord god your

righteousness

jehovah shalom the lord guide your peace

jehovah jireh the lord god your provider

amen you start to say this is who lives

with inside of me and this is why this

this

foundation is so key as you spend time

in the word of god because as you start

to see who god really is

man it should cause this roar inside of

you of

that who is living inside of me

right as you start to understand

everything as the king of kings and the

lord of lords you start to see his heart

you start to see god’s abilities you

start to see his faithfulness you start

to see the power and the wonder of your

god you realize

that’s in me

not out there guys it’s not out there

the wonder and the might the majesty the

strength the beauty the kingdom of god

is not out there it’s in here

that’s when you talk about you already

have it guys that’s not just a cute

title of a book

you’ve already got it

guys

you’ve already got it

when we became children of god

god himself made his dwelling place in

us

guys this revelation should just

stop and go wow

the next question we go is

why

why why would you come

well because he loved us

and he wanted to be with us

and he wanted to have relationship with

us

so when he sees you

he sees himself

that’s why he can say you can do all

things through christ who strengthens

you

because he he sees what christ in you

hallelujah so when he sees you he says

hey listen love never fails

first corinthians 13 8 love never fails

why because the person of love

john first john chapter 4 verse 6 god is

love

love lives inside of you

so when he sees you it’s only through

what

love because he sees love when he looks

at you he sees love

so don’t give me an excuse that you

can’t love the people around you

okay you don’t know i can’t love them

you’ve got love living inside of you

so if you stop looking at the flesh and

operating out of the flesh and turn to

the things of the spirit guess what

watch out

they’re going to get all gobsmacked with

the love of god out of you

what does this lead to last one

authority

authority in christ

because let me tell you when you get

these revelations

because you can say

in the name of jesus

and not mean it

and not know what that means

but when you

get an attitude

of i’m loved of god

spirit of god lives within me

he dwells within me when god looks at me

he is not disappointed so now as i look

at myself i am well able

i know who my god is i know he is good i

know he is faithful you know what rises

up so in the name of jesus devil you go

it’s not just words anymore it’s

revelation because you got these

foundations the whole goal of the cross

was to bring you into this intimate

relationship with all of this gift this

is our inheritance you guys

now we have this relationship with god

and we start to take ownership of it and

now we start to operate in this

authority devil you leave

so here’s the thing let me close with

this one minute

when we talk about healing

you are healed and all of these things

i’ll just tell you right now these are

major revelations that most people get

might get one of them and say why am i

not healed i’ll just tell you

it’s so beautiful when you get all these

revelations coming together

and they’re working together when you

start to put healing here

you know what

you are healed

because he loves you

simple as that

and that’s a revelation that can just

change our lives

but you’re healed because jehovah rapha

the lord god your healer lives inside of

you

we start to realize he’s the healer it’s

who what he does he and he healed them

all then you start to realize okay wait

the healer lives within me

wait the healer lives within me

wow i am

filled with the healing power of god so

what you start to realize when god looks

at you what does he see

healed

when god’s looking at you he’s saying

honey i see you healed i see you whole i

don’t see you with disease because i see

myself within you and he says now please

see yourself healed

see that the healer lives within you see

that you’re loved of god see that the

spirit of healing lives within you

know that’s how i see you now you take

ownership of this guess what happens

man in the name of jesus sickness you

have no authority sickness you have to

leave sickness you cannot be a part of

my life

because i am loved of god i have the

spirit of god inside of me when he sees

me he sees me healed so today i see

myself healed

this is what’s so powerful

about the cross and about the gospel

this is this is our inheritance amen

and i’ll tell you when i learn these

things and and and mike and i we teach

this course all over the world it’s one

of our courses here in keras we have it

translated all over in multiple

languages around the world because if we

can learn these six things and sometimes

we think where do i start

there’s so much

i tell people just start with these

because you know what it’s beautiful i

don’t have time to do it every single

principle fits in there you want to put

prosperity in there put prosperity in

there why because he’s what jehovah

jireh the lord god your provider lives

within you provision lives within you

when he sees you he sees you prosperous

so do you see yourself prosperous if you

can then you start to speak over your

finances hallelujah

you start

and the whole time god loves you he

wants you to be prosperous you put

marriage whoo put marriage in this

listen you can’t love someone else until

you let god love you

if you learn to let god love you you

realize that god who is love lives

inside of you so you do not have to live

your marriage based off the flesh

you can base it off the spirit and when

god sees you he sees you as a one flesh

filled with him love of god team and you

start to see your marriage that way and

you start to take authority as a couple

over your marriage because hey we know

who we really are

hallelujah

so

there’s so much that has been shared at

this conference and i’m going to

encourage you there’s nuggets that god

spoke to you

but please don’t think that one time

hearing them is enough

faith comes by hearing so please

get the material if you’re driving back

come on you have all kinds of hours to

listen to the word it’s like the

conference extended version okay

you put it in and you listen to it on

the way home if you’re flying put it

listen

you put it in your home let your family

put it on so your kids are hearing the

word

andrew’s course he’s got a course on

love of god he’s got material in the

love of god he’s got material and spirit

soul and body he’s got material on

identity in christ he’s got material on

true nature of god and authority of the

believer book form audio form video form

and study guide

all right

don’t tell me that you don’t know i

don’t know how to grow in these things

guys

this ministry has been so much amazing

material together so that we could grow

in these foundations so that the

attitude and the life of what jesus

accomplished for us is released

can we pray

oh and then also life foundations

it’s awesome so it’s going to walk you

through these and pull out more of these

points and give you a whole bunch of

scriptures as well

let’s stand

because what i want us to do before we

have our break

is i want to say this

don’t ever get to a place

and as ministers mike and i talk about

this all the time

don’t ever get to a place where you say

oh yeah yeah love of god heard it

we’re good

yeah you know that that that spiritual

body yeah listen to andrew on it yeah i

bought the book we’re good

guys

remain teachable say lord increase these

listen foundations you know what’s so

key about foundations if you’re going to

build a house if you’re going to go up

higher or wider what do you do first you

reinforce the foundations

i’m telling you guys there is expansion

and calling

an opportunity

that god is getting ready to give every

single one in this room because we are

living in an age where they need to see

the gospel and when you start speaking

truth it’s going to multiply and be a

fire out of your life

but if you’re going to grow and god’s

going to use you in great ways let me

encourage you you need to go back to

these foundations build them up strong

get this word inside of you even more

so that god can build on it

and that you can actually minister the

good news to people

in simple ways

so

we’re going to ask the holy spirit just

to take us back to school

lord teach us again let our hearts be

touched with your love

and i would just say to everyone in this

room

ask the lord

show me how much you love me

and if you have had a hard time

receiving the love of god

can i encourage you

as you’re listening to the rest of this

day as you’re coming in for worship

tonight

ask the lord lord

show me how much you love me i need a

revelation of your love

i’ll tell you that that is the heart of

god he wants to reveal himself to you

and he will transform that

so father we stand before you right now

we just lift up our hands and we say

father thank you for what you did on the

cross for us lord i thank you that you

love us

and so father i just thank you that each

and every person no matter where we are

in our revelation about your love lord

we ask for the width and the depth and

the hype and the breath of your love

that we would understand father how much

you love us and in that father god it

gives us the courage and the ability and

the authority to rise up and say i am

loved of god therefore sickness has no

place in my life i am loved of god and

then we would say i am filled with the

spirit of god there is no room for

sickness in this body we’re not trying

to get healed we’re telling sickness to

leave this temple of the holy spirit

right now in the name of jesus and so

father i thank you when you look at

every one of us in this room you see us

healed

you see us whole nothing missing nothing

lacking nothing broken nothing hurting

no doctor’s report that holds any

authority in our lives

and so father today we see ourselves as

healed

we are healed because you lit the healer

live within us so we stand before you

and as you look at us you see yourself

today hallelujah we are healed and so we

say now with our authority every symptom

every sign put your hand on any part of

your body that’s sore or

or diseased or whatever you put your

head right now in the name of jesus you

have to go

i know who i am i know that i’m loved i

know who lives within me so i cast you

out right now in the name of jesus

father we love you we thank you for

these truths and that it is the gospel

and the good news that changes us

forever

in jesus name

a

man hallelujah

amen come on let’s just tell kerry thank

you

hallelujah

we’re going to take a very short break

and when we come back we’re going to be

hearing from two more of our healing

journeys and it’s gonna be powerful so

come back in your seats at 10 35 we’re

gonna extend the break just a few

minutes but be back at 10 35 and we’ll

be ready to go

[Music]

all right if we get everyone to come in

and take their seat we need to get

started

man we got a great couple coming up

all right if everyone could come in and

take their seat we need to get started

you won’t want to miss this next couple

man this they are a blessing

i hadn’t seen them in a number of years

but

they’re awesome

praise god

hopefully you can hear me out in the

concourses out there if everybody could

come in

we need to get going you don’t want to

miss this

praise the lord

all right so mike and esther i see you

on our monitor can you hear me

everything good

awesome all right i’m just trying to get

these people to come back in it’s like

herding cats to come in from the break

but we’ll give them just a few minutes

here and hopefully we’ll get everybody

back in here

how many avia have uh

seen the mullins testimony about little

andrew mullins that was healed of stage

four

i think they called it neo-blastoma how

many of you have seen that testimony

man just a few

you have missed an awesome testimony so

anyway mike master this means that

everything’s new to these people you

need to share everything

uh that jesus has done in your life with

them

praise god

i tell you for everybody who feels

really important they ought to get up

here and try and get people to come in

after break

it just makes you feel like nobody’s

listening nobody’s paying attention to

me

i see them standing out there just

ignoring me i know you can hear me

i know you’re listening

stop it that’s right just stop it quit

loving and fellowshipping and

come in here and let us minister to you

praise the lord

and wasn’t carried great this morning

what a blessing

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the way she put those things together

and showed the progression and the

interrelation between it that that was

priceless

that is really really good

i tell you mike and carrie are such a

blessing to us

what a great thing amen

all right so ready or not here we come

those of you that aren’t in here yet

you’re going to miss a blessing

but i’m we’ve got a little video that

first of all is going to introduce the

mullins to you and then i’ll come back

and we’re going to interview them zoom

from scotland i believe it is right no

ireland sorry

anyway it’s one one of those places

across the pond so uh let’s watch this

video and then i’ll be right back with

the

[Music]

mullets i saw a little lump on his back

and i remember that the old feelings of

cold hands gripped my heart

we didn’t know what that was so we went

to our doctor

he said this child needs to be scanned

today i need to find out what this is

serious

[Music]

and on the 25th of february 2011

a 17 month old little baby boy was

diagnosed with stage four neuroblastoma

cancer

when she said uh stage four we asked

naively

how many stages are there she said this

is the final stage

and when they told us you know he had

cancer and that he had 30 chance

that felt like a death sentence

andrew also had a tumor measuring 7 by 8

by 21 centimeters and you wonder okay

god have you allowed this did you put us

here for a reason

what can i do what’s going on

ladies and gentlemen please welcome via

live stream

mike and astor mullins

[Music]

praise the lord

man it is great to have you all and

you’re from ireland

yes guaranteed irish i am pastors from

holland oh praise god it’s been years

since i’ve seen you and i assume that

this is andrew right there with you

yeah

man isn’t that a blessing

it’s great to see you andrew i hadn’t

seen you since you were probably old

enough to remember me but i tell you if

we just rejoice with you at the awesome

things that god has done he loves you

it’s awesome

so anyway like i was saying before uh

mike and astor uh most of these people

have not seen your videos so we need you

we we saw a real brief clip but

probably only people that have been

through what you’ve been through could

fully

appreciate how this must have affected

you to see your little

baby like that but share with us what

how how bad the situation was so that

we’ll be able to rejoice better with you

when we hear the great things that jesus

did

okay

so yeah andrew was diagnosed with stage

four uh cancer we started the treatment

uh

you feel terribly raw in a moment like

that you go emotionally

especially mentally very numb

it’s like cotton wool in your head

and

a lot of people are praying mike set up

a facebook page

to rally up prayer support and we had

been a ministry for years and we knew

people all over the world so the

internet was perfect because everybody

could follow us everybody could pray for

us

and a lot of gifts started coming in but

for me like we well i grew up in a

christian family and my faith had been

so important to me and i had been to so

many bible studies and camps and

outreaches and sermons and had taken so

many notes

so i actually thought that i knew at

most you know that i actually knew

everything so when things were coming in

uh like for example the cds of god wants

you well

i

felt no interest because i didn’t want

to learn anything new because i thought

i knew it all

and i was very

mentally and emotionally exhausted so i

didn’t want to learn anything new or

listen to anything

other couple that and i missed all of

that actually also

referred us to your teaching

so let me interrupt here for just a

second because you were saying that you

were already uh fairly well established

in uh

in the word and my if i’m not mistaken

you were working for a ministry right

you were in ministry

sure yeah so my background coming from a

very traditional church background and

then getting saved and then going into

missions

so i was in missions from 1990 to 95 4-5

and then

i went back into ministry in 2002 and i

was actually the director of a christian

ministry based here in ireland uh

at the time andrew was diagnosed with

cancer so that’s about like eight years

uh into into the whole

into the ministry so i’m very involved

in ministry speaking a lot of churches

and i had to walk very fine line because

the kind of churches i’m

really ministering and speaking in uh

aren’t for the most part uh church that

will speak in tongues

and would be very

very much into the sovereignty of god

uh but like with andrew when he started

getting sick we were going through a

very difficult period uh in ministry and

so this was another thing just like

rocky in a boxing ring getting pumped

and he just hold on to the wires and

just getting up and then something else

hits you and lands you punch a blow and

with andrew he was like the cancer

is called neuroblastoma cancer for so

it’s a very aggressive form of cancer

and attacks the nerves

and so andrew he was our fifth child we

have six children we should get a round

of applause even a gold medal for that

but

well she should ask a pastor should

i i don’t know but can you see what’s

going on in our auditorium or can you

not only see me are there people there i

just said i can hear them

yeah we’ve got probably i don’t know at

least a thousand maybe between a

thousand and fifteen hundred people

sitting here watching you yeah yeah

so so with with andrew and an astro

maybe touching this later um but we

considered are she considered andrew her

victory child and she could go into what

that really meant for her as a mother to

have the fifth child have another one

and so here’s andrew and at that time

he’s about 17 months or so and uh we’ve

had kids with teething problems and

different things and you’ve all more or

less seen it what they’re like and very

cranky but andrew um he would

begin to bang his face off the ground or

into the corner of tables and he wasn’t

speaking but that was his way he had a

lot of pain

and we brought him to a doctor and we’re

about to go on holidays to holland the

doctor checked him said oh this nicely

to uh ear infections there must be an

ear infection without okay that would

make sense

in holland he is going ballistic

and he i mean he’s scratching my face

he’s screaming all the time he’s in a

lot of pain we bring him to a hospital

there keep him in more or less all all

day they couldn’t find anything wrong

with him when we get back home to

ireland in january

uh

astor notices a lump on his back

and then we brought him back to her

doctor and he said listen you need to go

and get him scanned so we brought him to

another hospital in ireland to get

scanned the consultant there looked at

him and said

i wouldn’t be overly concerned and ask

her would even testify she said

you know yeah your thing is when

the the gp had done a blood test and the

blood test came back that there was no

cancer and i just thought oh that’s

cancer of the hook but

not every cancer shows up in the blood

and i was very naive and trying to calm

him as well so yeah but you become your

own self as well you you think oh great

it’s not cancer and then you relax and

then when i was in the hospital i just

talked way too much

and

sort of unpacified the baby

instead of just letting him just

go ballistic

i i pacified them sort of they didn’t

see the full picture and but anyways

yeah so they said well short a month

later he was diagnosed and we are now in

the hospital and we are

praying and we’re rallying prayer

support

and by the thing everybody would stand

with you and believe for this healing

but

uh mike i remember that the

group that you were working with

they didn’t support you at all in

believing for healing they they just

thought that this was god’s will that

your son died

that way

the sovereignty of god it’s the thing of

the sovereignty of god was deeply uh

preached yeah

and the the funny thing is i didn’t

share this with you before but i had um

on the day that uh we were told that we

were being transferred to the hospital

in dublin and as i said i’ve been

through this valley a very difficult

time ministry and i was up in belfast

and i was speaking at the baptist

college in belfast they’re finally your

students and one of the students uh

asked me have i ever felt like giving up

in ministry and i thought oh my goodness

if you go into ministry and you think

it’s going to be a piece of cake i mean

you’re in the wrong place i mean and and

the the thing that can attack you more

often than not is actually friendly fire

and so it’s coming from within and so

i’m driving back from that i’m trying to

encourage them but really give them a

realistic picture of what’s ahead but i

said you’ve got to keep a focus on why

you are in ministry it’s you’re not

working for a person organization you’re

actually serving god you’re serving

christ and so once you have that as your

your purpose then it doesn’t matter what

happens because you know why you’re

there and why you’re doing what you’re

doing but on the way home

from that meeting

astor called and said um listen i’m the

doctor said we’ve got to bring andrew in

the hospital get checked and he’s very

concerned about him to get scanned and

by the time i got home to our base down

to our house uh astor said listen

they’re transferring us to dublin under

talking about cancer so like that was

the blow that hits you now when you said

people thought he would die

certainly then people were coming to us

and would have things like okay well um

there must be sin in your life

or god wants to discipline you and

someone even said to us that because of

all our years in ministry

god now counted us worthy to have a

child with cancer so you’re getting sort

of stuff now people are very sincere

but they’re saying crazy things and it

certainly isn’t helping and certainly

from where we are now

we hear that we think oh it’s just

they they want to say the right thing

but they don’t know what to say so

they’re saying all sorts of things or

god needs another little angel in heaven

or you need to let him go and i think

i’m in no shape form i’m not ready to

let my child go i don’t care what it’s

going to take and we thought it was the

mobilization of prayer you know we

thought that was going to be sometimes

the people who mean well and they’re

trying to show love towards you it’s not

comforting at all when they say things

to you like that it’s faith killers and

like you said it’s friendly fire so

not only were you dealing with what was

happening with uh andrew but man you

were dealing with all of the

unbelief and things spoken about you i’m

sure it was a tough time for you

well it was and that was very it was a

very lonely time as well because

sometimes people think well let god just

deal with that person then and and

here’s the other uh element that if

people that the two or three who’ve seen

our video uh can can remember

astor was very heavily pregnant

at that time with grace

so um so we’re we’re in hospital we’re

good to be filled with grace

absolutely

he was she was pregnant with grace yeah

so we’re all pregnant with grace so

anyways in in the hospital uh

so we’re told that stage four

uh naively we didn’t even know how many

stages there were and

when they told us the final stage and

then i asked to pray for the doctor

which she found a little bit unusual but

she let us do that but then after maybe

two weeks of treatment in hospital and

we’re about to go home

and so we’re getting ready to go home

and a friend a pastor friend of mine

from athlon was visiting uh in the

middle of ireland and so we get andrew

ready to go and he’s all set and with

all the tubes i’m scared because they’ve

given us

all sorts of medications to give him and

tubes and i’m freaked out with this but

as you said listen i just need to use

the the ladies room before we

head on that one two hour journey back

home and next thing she comes back a few

minutes later and she’s so i’ve gone

into labor

so instead of going home i was wished

off to the ladies hospital and gave

birth the next morning

and grace came came about four weeks

nearly four weeks early yeah the thing

in the in the hall in the whole story

especially in the beginning was that i

was searching

for the will of god

yeah and i thought lord if you give me a

bible first i know how to stand in faith

i totally know how to do that the only

thing i need to know is what your will

is and then if you give me a verse i

stand in faith in that one that first i

can totally do that

and i was looking for that bible first

for that word of confirmation

and because i believe that

that that god had planned with all of

this that this was

somehow the unfolding of his plan and i

couldn’t grasp that

now sometimes you ask the lord for

something and he cannot answer your

request because you’re asking the wrong

thing

because if god had given me a word of

confirmation i would have stood on that

and i believed that if it was god’s will

then yes but it could also be god’s will

that he would

die

so your your

god couldn’t answer that question and it

took me months of of it is as if you’re

on this on this

plateau and i knew everything about my

evangelical plateau i’d been on that

plateau for years

and i was very comfortable there very

happy that was my world and now i was

pushing to the outside and i was hitting

my head against brick walls

doctrines that didn’t add up you know

the doctrine of you know it is you never

die a day before

before it’s your time so you never have

to worry because if you die today then

that was god’s plan you think

it doesn’t really add up because really

if you’re if you’re knocked on down by a

car and you die on the road is that

really

that that was god’s perfect plan for you

like no there’s a lot of things that

don’t add up

so then once

my all those doctrines started to break

it was like i was leaning on them and

they were actually like reeds and they

and they broke and it was a very scary

experience

because you think you’re losing your

faith

so about five six months in i’m i’m

hitting rock bottom and i i i stopped

one day and i said i don’t believe

anything anymore i’m so tired of

pretending

the only thing is i know that jesus is

real i really know that

and i don’t know how you can give that

up but there’s so much that i don’t

believe anymore and it doesn’t make

sense like why do you pray if it’s

already set in stone yeah what is going

to happen for me in the hospital

situation because uh astrid just given

birth to grace she was at home so it was

really just me and andrew and that was

very exhausting for me because andrew

would literally be ripping at my face

and he just wanted me

to hold him all the time in fact when he

would the only time he would go to sleep

and again you would see this in the

video was literally when i would stand

at the cuff with my hand underneath his

head

because he felt safe then he knew i was

gonna leave so he wouldn’t go to sleep

when i’m standing there with my hand on

his head but one of the days

because i’m an evangelist i love to

share about jesus and one of the days i

was talking to a guy in one of the small

kitchens there we’re making a cup of

coffee and he said you know what to do

for a living i said i work with a

christian charity and i’m ready to

launch in and to share the gospel of

salvation with him

and he said oh he said don’t even

mention god here he said i said a word

of advice if you mentioned god to my

wife he said don’t do it because if you

do she’s liable to punch you

and then i was really taken aback by

that

and i you know why and it’s really

because they blame god for this this is

god and then i began to look at the

place differently and i saw dads i saw

that one time punching this wall so hard

and cursing god

and my heart was breaking and i’m i’m

asking myself i know the gospel is

powerful

but how is the gospel relevant in this

place and how is it possible for me as a

human being to feel more compassion than

god why would god allow this to happen

and so i remember we used to have these

beds that we’d fall down at night andrew

um that we would sleep beside the kids

and we call them musical beds because

they met such a clutter

and i remember just one night lying on

this bed

and

picturing jesus just walking down the

hallway of this children’s cancer award

where quite regularly children would die

but children were crying out loud at

night and morning and it was really very

very sad but there’s no way i could

picture jesus walking down this hallway

looking at these children saying that’s

my perfect plan for that child’s life

that’s exactly i want that child to have

the leg amputated and die and eyes and

all this and i thought there’s something

very wrong but what is it

how can i make a difference what does

the gospel have to say to this situation

and then awesome that is amazing of

course i know that you know this now but

i believe that that sovereignty of god

doctrine has turned more people against

god

than just about anything

now we believe that god is sovereign in

the sense that he’s absolutely in

control but he doesn’t use his ability

to control and make all these things

happen we have total freedom of choice

and sadly the whole world is making a

lot of wrong choices

so

you guys how did you ever get hold of

the truth and begin to come out of this

uh thinking that it was god’s will

you remember the cds that somebody sent

us you know in the in the post and they

were copied of the internet

and they were laying there dusting

beside my bed you know on a big pile of

other things and mike found them and he

put him in the car and we started

listening yeah there were pirated copies

pirated copies of andrew womack

and you know we we still have i meant to

bring them up we still have them

downstairs we have three of them because

we gave one to someone in hospital and

never gave it back to us but um

the pirate copies are very precious

those things are awesome

yeah but um as we were going to to the

hospital one day on the journey then i

just saw them and i grabbed them off the

shelf and i said listen then let’s just

listen to this on the way because we

were so low

in fact i was so low i felt i was in

survival mode and i said to our pastor

and the church that we were attending at

the time uh that i felt like i’m in

survival mode when really i want to be

in more than a conqueror mode but i just

don’t know how to get there and maybe

that was the prayer maybe that was a

prayer saying lord i want to be immortal

and next thing you’re prompted by the

holy spirit see that cd you need to put

that on a listen but we put those on in

the car and as we listened on that

journey to one cd done another one

even though we had never heard you speak

before or heard this message it was if

we had and it resonated with our hearts

that we played it over and over again we

just sat in the car park after we’ve

done our two-hour journey and we’re just

putting on the cds and astor has a has a

journal i think that night you put in

your journal could it be true and i was

like that was the beginning so some

people say all right so you just

listened to that cd and then you went

and laid hands on andrew

no that was the beginning what was

happening was our hearts were being

transformed and we were repenting from

not

turning from bad things we were doing

but almost starting from a wrong belief

into turning to god and for who he says

we are and what he has done so that was

our repentance and so we now we were

turning to that belief

and and then we began to listen to

everything i could find that you were

speaking of and i began to download so

many books i think i downloaded i don’t

maybe 100 books from kindle anything on

healing i said

if healing is there i’ve missed it and i

was

so many books ff bosworth all sorts of

stuff and guys from 1920s and earlier

and i’m reading all this and listening

to your messages and reading all your

books and what was happening was we are

becoming fully convinced in our hearts

and people and then people say this oh

so then you went and you laid hands and

i and i just want to communicate this

sandra because people don’t get this

we didn’t say okay let’s give it a try

now let’s see what happens

we were fully convinced in our hearts to

the point

if we did not see

a healing manifest it wasn’t going to

change our hearts and who we believe god

now to be and his finished work

and so our faith our faith our faith

wasn’t dependent upon what we saw our

faith was upon who he says we are our

faith was in god it was his faith in us

and so when we did go and we laid hands

on andrew and we said cancer and

we’ve got bad news for you got good news

frank’s body

bad news you know i saw i had this bible

first written and about bones and it

said good news brings health to the

bones so for all those first five months

i had made sure that andrew only heard

good news because that’s good for him

then when i read that first

and my mind and my heart had changed i

thought

oh wait a minute the good news of course

it’s the gospel

good news is the gospel the gospel

brings health to the bones

and it was not just the bible verse it

was just my belief had changed

then i could lay hands on his on his

bones and it was the most simplistic

thing on the couch i said oh bones i’ve

got such good news for you

by stretch you were healed yeah you know

we’re actually talking to bones we’re

telling the bones the gospel hey bones

did you hear the good news have you

heard the good news of it we’re

literally telling the bones and the

balls

and the bones respond and carrie said

something beautiful early on uh what she

was talking about and the importance of

vision you know and where it says in

proverbs 29 i think it is without vision

people perish and i think if you don’t

have a vision of your healing you can

perish you need to have a vision you

need to be able to see yourself healed

as god sees you it’s like jack nicklaus

when he used to take his gun shots he

said he would see the shot before he hit

the ball and so with us before we laid

hands on andrew we already saw him

healed we already saw him healed that’s

before we laid hands so now we go and we

now we declare what we believe in our

hearts it’s coming out of our hearts not

out of our mouths but it’s already it’s

it’s established in our hearts in our

minds in our hearts we’ve had a whole

mind transformation but so andrew went

and he to go for an mibg scan

and uh so they did this uh scan through

him and the very first time he’d gone

for such a scan

they said

when they put him through the scan they

had to die through his body to show up

where the cancer was he said he lit up

like a christmas tree there was so much

cancer in his body every bone in his

body except his hands and his feet but

now after and this was like some months

later and after we prayed for him and

laid hands he’d go for another mibg scan

and that’s when the consultant called us

and said i don’t know how to tell you

this but everything regarding andrew is

up in the air who said is it up in here

good or up in the air bad so it’s up in

the air good no cancer in these bones we

don’t see any cancer in his walls

[Applause]

i don’t know if you can hear mike and

esther and andrew but man people here

are rejoicing with you at what jesus has

done and you know what you said is so

important because i don’t know if you’ve

been able to listen in during this whole

conference but nearly every person who’s

been giving a testimony it was the exact

same thing they got fully persuaded in

their heart and it didn’t really matter

what their body saw they knew the truth

and that is a key to seeing the power of

god manifest

absolutely you need you need to see it

you need to and you need to see who you

are in christ because so many people

feel so unworthy and you need to see how

much you are deeply loved by god you

need to have his vision of you and your

heart when you’ve got that and i

encountered that with a lot of people i

pray for they just feel so unworthy i

tell them the only qualification you

need to be healed is you need to be sick

if you’re sick you qualify to be healed

and so then so so once you get a hold of

the goodness of god and i tell people

he’s gooder than you think he is so much

gooder than you think and so when you

get a hold of the gospel because it is

so much more than salvation it is so

huge

now you let that just um

just embraces and uh it’s it’s it’s life

transforming so now to heal um like as

we said with andrew to lay hands was a

piece of cake as you would say andrew it

was a piece of cake it was like i don’t

have to build up anything because it’s

not even my faith it’s god’s faith in me

i just have to release it and i just

need to speak these things but it’s

coming from that place where i believe

in my heart it’s like that woman who had

the issue with bleeding she she just

said if i just put touch she already had

a vision of how this would work out and

she saw that and

i could tell you’re a preacher

that’s awesome

and how long from the time that y’all

begin to recognize that it wasn’t god

that made andrew sick until you got that

good report from that scan how what

period of time did it take for you to

fully persuade your heart

oh i think it was a couple of weeks yeah

a couple of weeks i would say of very

intensely

drinking from this fresh water non-stop

i mean everything every every moment

every uh woken moment we’ve got

headphones on we’re listening to your

mp3s which are all free and people need

to hear that that they’re available

online and all these messages it’s a

godsend and so um we’re listening to

that reading all material so a couple of

weeks i would say we didn’t rush into it

um because i wanted to get a full grasp

on this because i had missed it so much

but it was really i knew this was going

to be life-changing for me and and i and

i tell people this as well um because

some people get so excited about this

and they say i can’t wait to tell

everyone i said

don’t rush and tell everybody just yet

because you could just be inviting a

whole lot of trouble that you just don’t

need at this moment and so

we made a mistake of of telling some

friends and uh that was a mistake

and so

i think if you allow it to just settle

in your heart get it and then just go

and and again i need to say the doctors

are fantastic we appreciate all the

doctors do and uh they’re doing a

fantastic job there we really value them

they looked after andrew so well and

they were doing the best that they could

with what they had

and but when we got that revelation uh

it was it was really powerful and in our

video you would see that we had we

recognized that we had faith and

unbelief at the same time and so really

what we had to do was

feed our faith and starve our unbelief

and so what you focus on will either

feed your faith or

um feed your fear and so

we just um began to then feed our faith

and listening to your messages and and

just starve that unbelief and that’s the

point in where we just had it fully

convinced in our hearts and we said oh

this is a piece of cake i don’t even

have to stress about this it’s done did

y’all ever meet um the terradez’s that

little hannah was healed do you ever

meet them didn’t meet them but we’ve

seen the video yeah we know i i’ve got

carly here come up here carly and the

reason i want her to come is because it

was the exact same progression

they carly had been healed have you got

a mic for her

oh you’re wearing one awesome but car

carly had been healed many times of

different things and so she knew that

god healed

but she was in the exact same situation

where people were saying maybe this was

god’s will and when they got hold of the

truth it took how long for you

a couple of weeks ago

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oh you need to go this is the first time

i’m hearing this and i’m saying to

daniel man this story sounds just like

cows

they’re so cool it’s really and so here

are two people different parts of the

country and yet the word worked exactly

the same it’s not the word that’s ever

different it’s only the way people

receive it the word will work for

whoever will believe in isn’t this

awesome to see that that’s awesome and

let me just ask you about andrew i know

he doesn’t remember any of this but i’m

sure you’ve told him uh

what does he think about all of this

does

um

i have no idea

you’re just glad to be alive aren’t you

andrew yeah you’ve seen the video yeah

i’ve seen the video and everyone’s like

oh

yeah you’re a miracle and all this

happened and like yeah i have no idea

what happened

oh yeah congratulations

all right thanks

the cool thing is that andrew has has a

few times said you know different things

be it a pain in his leg or his stomach

or something like this unrelated cancer

just just general stuff the kids go

through

and uh so many times you just come

straight and said oh dad here come pray

for me and uh lay hands to speak to his

name speaker oh that’s great it’s a gun

yes it’s gone i’m fine now and off you

go off the plane

and so it’s become it becomes a way of

life

so

it becomes it becomes a way of life and

i think if people can get this and

that’s the beautiful thing of your

ministry andrew you’re trying to show

people it isn’t about the people on the

stage it is about you getting a

revelation of who you are in christ so

you can go and do likewise because

that’s the beautiful thing of your

ministry you’re building the site but

you’re encouraging people to do this and

to go and to receive healing in fact i

do tell people that if they’re at a

place and maybe there’s someone

listening who needs to hear this and

maybe in the audience and i’ve seen this

happen many times

where they feel like i’m not seeing my

healing manifest and i say you gotta

you’re focusing too much on this you

need to go and start ministering to

other people and if you start going

laying in hands and you start speaking

other people guess what what you’re

speaking is you’re hearing what you

speak and it’ll just happen and that

sickness is just going to fall off you

because with sickness you don’t want to

defeat it you want to deny it and you

deny it the right to remain in your body

so by declaring that you are the healed

you are not denying that there’s a

sickness you’re denying the sickness the

right to remain in your body it has no

legal right in your body amen

well

mike and astor without you knowing it

you have just said what we’ve been

saying all week long we’ve said those

same things in different words but it’s

the same holy spirit same word it is

when he’s talking what amazes me is the

power of understanding what the will of

god is

you know for we’ve come from the same

culture and it’s just it’s that that

sovereignty god is so rampant but when

you understand what the will of god is

and how much god loves you it doesn’t

matter what comes against you and how

bad the cancer is or how bad the

situation is when you know the truth it

sets you free it changes everything in

your life and then it makes it easy to

lay hands on people because you know

you know you know it’s god’s will to

heal them it just makes it easy we need

to get the terades and the mullens

together sometime and let you compare

notes fitness awesome

and let’s praise god for everything and

this is wonderful he’s a good god

hallelujah

amen

so he just got a couple of minutes uh

mike and uh

esther if he got any parting words just

uh either thank the lord or minister to

the people

yeah i think um just to uh

really that is it’s comes from a heart

of gratitude uh to your ministry and

everything that you’ve done it’s

powerful

it’s really helped us and also uh just

an understanding of who we are in christ

if people get a revelation of us

that’s going to change their

circumstances and their lives and their

families this goes way beyond just a

healing and i think if people can almost

get past the healing aspect and see it’s

way bigger than this and the beautiful

thing with healing if people are

wondering uh and kerry said something on

this and it really struck me that what

when we look at jesus uh he’s not a

spirit in heaven he rose bodily in

heaven so we have a body seated right

hand of the father in a physical body so

we know that as he is in heaven so are

we in this world we can look at a body

healed sitting at the right hand of

water and say healing is the will of god

it is the will of god his will is to

heal it is always to heal and he’s

gooder than you think he loves us deeply

amen

so do you know which uh one of the

healing journey volumes your testimony

is on

i’m not sure is it one might be one it

would it was in 2013 so i think does

anybody

i’d like to announce it because we’ve

only got a few people that have seen it

everybody needs to go see this because

you were so articulate sharing and it

will really minister to people

so praise god for jesus and what he did

and thank god for you joining us today

god bless you

thank you so much guys

we love you we’ll look forward to you

coming over here and sharing with us

something i love that

god bless you here god bless everybody

bye-bye

man just

huh

it’s number four

healing journeys number four isn’t this

awesome you know when he was sharing his

testimony it’s exactly what happened to

you guys you got a they had an old

cassette that i think it was your

parents wasn’t it yeah it’s like in a

drawer for like oh like 10 years

probably and did you know it was a free

cassette

and probably pirated i don’t know and

her dad

special anointing her dad hated my

accent so much he threw that thing in

the back of the drawer and said i’m not

listening to this guy and it sat there

for 15 years and they rented a car to go

to the hospital

that didn’t have a cd player and all

they had was a cassette and so she just

asked have you got anything and they

listened to that and did you i d i

didn’t tell you this but just last or no

two weeks ago i was at the national

association of christian lawmakers i’m

on their board

and uh carl long

a guy who bought me a suit and wouldn’t

let me wear boots with it he bought me a

pair of shoes i said i’ll only wear them

one time and he says it doesn’t matter i

don’t want you ruining that suit with

boots so he bought me a pair of shoes

those were the shoes that you were

wearing when you made these that was the

night i i remember making that tape

because i preached everything i knew in

about an hour and a half and your shoes

were uncomfortable that’s right

and so that exact teaching i remember

that and that’s the one that you got and

uh it was just amazing

it’s amazing to me how you can get the

word but sometimes

it’s almost like your heart’s not in a

place to receive it yet like you know

for us that that teaching it sat in that

drawing it was like a seed that was

there the whole time we could have

accessed it earlier but our heart wasn’t

ready to receive it and you know they

had those teachings and they were given

to them and sat on their bedside or

whatever but when your heart comes to a

place where it’s at the end of itself

it’s like okay lord i’m ready and and

when when the moment’s right your heart

can receive it and that that that word

is going to sprout there’s life in the

seed and you know they didn’t share very

much of their testimony when she talked

the other night but uh

they actually had to take hannah out of

the hospital and the doctors let her go

because they basically thought she

wouldn’t live

and so there was nothing they could do

and they brought her and they stayed

there for what three days was we

actually was in the hospital they’d send

us how long did you come to the meeting

and you stayed or in the house yeah it

was a three-day meeting three-day

meeting and it was the last day and

nothing had happened

and anyway leslie decker got me and said

there’s a couple that really need you to

come pray and so i went back there and i

mean it was just real quick i didn’t say

hardly anything it was unspectacular it

was

it was i didn’t feel a thing

and she was in a walk or a stroller

and i think she was asleep if i’m not

mistaken and i just prayed for her real

quickly

and

anyway that was about it but see it was

the word in them

that caused this healing

and when i prayed it was unspectacular i

don’t think they felt the thing but did

you know that they immediately hannah

couldn’t eat you want to give this

testimony instead of me giving it

well she had she had an autoimmune

disease so she couldn’t she was

basically sent home from the hospital to

die they tried feeding tubes all

different kinds of things she was three

years old but she was the same size as a

nine month old baby all of her hair fell

out she looked like a child that had

been through cancer treatment her eyes

were sunk back in her head she was in a

vegetative state by that point when they

sent her home from the hospital to die

and they said

she had a tube in her and she was just

in pain constantly but we took her to

andrew’s conference because we had seen

that we heard that cassette tape we had

a cassette tape that we put in the car

on the way to one of our treatments and

it just did something on the inside of

us it was the first time that we heard

god’s will

and that is so important you know you

you hear this from them from the mullins

you know if you can pray all kinds of

prayers but until you know god’s will on

an era you can’t pray a prayer of faith

and so we got that cassette tape your

new identity in christ which is

literally everything you’d ever taught

in two hours

and um and that’s what we needed because

we were so messed up you know that on

your website we do we have it it’s a

free download on our website you can go

and listen to that one i don’t think you

have that one on yours anymore

i think you yeah know you probably

doesn’t so you have to find on ours i

guess anyway but uh we got the pirated

copy as well it’s awesome but you know

we spent that two weeks we spent that

two weeks just really listening to the

word god listening to literally

everything andrew had ever recorded and

and so while we’re in the hospital i

mean we just our heart had already been

prepared with the truth of god’s word so

when they said take her home from the

hospital to die we were like oh no god’s

got another plan we’re gonna we’re gonna

go see the great physician we’re gonna

get a second opinion and so we went on

on andrew’s website we’re like i wonder

you know andrew at that time was the

only person that would ever heard ever

in the world in our universe anyway say

that god wanted you well and it was it’s

so contrary it’s almost like um just

like astor was saying you know could

this be true is there any is there any

truth in this because if there is i’ve

got to find it it was like searching for

god to be true yeah and honestly you

sounded like you’re preaching heresy

right i mean like we we we sent out

pirated copies to our friends and like

oh no this guy’s of the devil

we’re like yeah but you don’t have a

dying child

that’s the difference you don’t have a

motivation there is something in this

that is spot the spirit of god on the

inside of us and we have we we have to

pursue it and so even though we had you

know doubts around us and different

things we’re like now we’ve got to find

out if this is real we got to meet we

got we got to find out we got to hear

for ourselves so we went on your website

and we found out that you’re in the

country just what one day and then it

happened to be the next day

so we’re like well we’re in the hospital

at time we can’t just bust our kids out

right i mean like you go to jail in

england and stuff like that so they

don’t really take very kindly to it but

then the doctor came and said oh no you

can take her home basically she’s going

to die anyway

so we’re like praise the lord so um

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not praise the lord she was going to die

that praise the lord

busting out of here so um we didn’t take

her home we took her to your conference

and then like you said you know the

thing that amazed me it was

unspectacular but

when they they had prepared their heart

and just like uh

mike was saying they were persuaded

and so right after that they went out

and i think you were looking for

mcdonald’s but you could only find

kentucky fried chicken she had never

eaten solid food in three and a half

years and she ate anything they could

throw at her we took her into kfc and we

ordered one of everything on the menu we

just figured either she’s healed or

she’s not either it worked or it didn’t

right and we’ve got nothing to lose here

so we’re just going to try everything so

we um we’d unplugged her from her

machine which was keeping her for alive

at that moment and then we went into the

restaurant and we just all sat and they

must have thought we were really strange

family because you know there’s just one

of us eating and the other four of us

are just watching

you know it’s like a strange dynamic

that was going on but she ate everything

she ate like kentucky fried chicken and

yogurt and brownies and rolled around on

the floor you know eating upside down

and she i’m like this kid is healed like

there is nothing so we never put plugged

it back into a machine and she actually

she wasn’t able to run she wasn’t able

to communicate she wasn’t able to

control herself in any way and she’s

gone from a child in a vegetative state

to eating in a restaurant and now

running around the room and we’re like

something happened

something happens

and did you know that that night i

didn’t know exactly how bad she was or

anything but that night

ashley came during the praise and

worship with uh hannah on his shoulders

dancing around that’s charlie and you

always singing dared to believe yep

that’s powerful and i remember seeing i

said this is the one we prayed for and i

said come up here and give your

testimony and he shared the testimony

but you know one of the things that

really blessed me

and ashley has never given this

testimony without saying it

he turned to our partners

and started thanking them

and he says if it wasn’t for you

enabling andrew to give away free

cassettes our daughter would be dead and

he started thanking you that’s true so

all of you in here that are partners

man we thank you not only for us but the

mullins all of this free material if

your partner with this ministry whether

it’s short long term or whatever would

you just stand and let us thank you for

what you helped us to do

can i just do something yep

so listen

[Applause]

you

you have saved

you have literally saved people’s lives

you have literally been a part of

something you have participated in i

believe hundreds of thousands of

miracles around the world you know there

are babies that are alive today that

have grown into adults because of your

giving

think about that for a moment you’re

going to get to heaven and you’re going

to meet some of the people where that

received on the end of your partnership

think about that for a moment because

there’s going to be a lot more than you

can see even in this room because you’re

obedient to trust god it with faith in

your giving some of you have given

sacrificially you’ve given sacrificially

when it hurts and that seed is coming

back for you it’s coming back for you

amen he’s coming back for you and

healing he’s coming back for you and

other people being saved this word is

going out it’s coming back in prosperity

for you personally but i want to give

you an opportunity if you’re not a

partner with andrew womack ministries

you need to be

i mean i’m sorry you just need to be you

can’t sit in a room like this and say i

just don’t i just don’t think i’m going

to be a partner we have all have

something that we can trust god with and

let me tell you this you know the night

before that hannah was healed it was the

final day of the conference and the

night when we don’t share this part of

the testimony because people get all

bent out of shape over okay but i’m

going to tell you because i believe

you’re mature enough to take it

right

you know the night before the conference

ashley looked to me when the offering

was coming around and he said um i just

feel like we should we should just give

everything in our bank account

and you know it just kind of hit me like

we are here believing god for a miracle

what is money compared to that

if we can’t believe god with earthly

things then how are we going to stretch

our faith to believe god for something

that’s so much more important

and so we just literally emptied our

bank account so we didn’t have anything

and we put everything on the offering

that night

and the next n and the next day hannah

received a miracle we didn’t pay for a

healing that’s right but it was an

important step of faith for us to

stretch ourselves in something natural

and so insignificant because then we

were able in the capacity of our heart

to receive a miracle testimony amen and

i believe there are people in here today

andrew that need to do the same thing

and she would never share this but i’m

going to share it with you that they’ve

only been in ministry for what two

just under three years

and did you know that in that period of

time their ministry has grown so that

last year they gave us a one-time

hundred thousand dollar gift out of

their ministry that’s how much praise

god they’ve prospered

where’s god i tell you god’s awesome he

is thank you thank you

can we can we give you the opportunity i

just forgive you yeah yeah

you want if you’re going to receive an

offer i love raising money friends

yeah i love raising money for andrew so

how many people in here when i was

saying that just felt moved in their

heart they really want to be part of

something bigger than themselves put

your hand up okay all right awesome do

we have ushers in here

do we have people that do we have do we

have the like envelopes you have you’re

able to give on your offering envelope

and you can become a partner on there

right there’s a place on that am i right

carrie there’s a place on the offering

envelope where you can check a box it

says i want to become a monthly partner

some of you this is very significant to

the breakthrough that you’re believing

god for god is not tempting you he’s

inviting you to participate today to

because you know when we participate in

something that god is doing we enable

him to make all grace abound towards it

says that in second corinthians 9

8 right and god is able to make oh yeah

thank you he knows the bible make all

grace are bound towards you

there is something put your hand up if

you want to if you want to give right

now if you feel moved in your heart to

give there’s no pressure to give but i

don’t know why you wouldn’t i like to

give in every opportunity and i’ll

become a partner with andrew wommack

ministries put your hand up really high

that’s it peer pressure is a wonderful

thing when it’s for the good things okay

so yeah look at your neighbor and say

i’m a partner what are you doing right

come on there we go awesome keep your

hand up real high because you don’t want

to miss out on this opportunity they’ll

get those envelopes into your hands yeah

we need options to come to the front

they’re working from the back to the

front come on

awesome man i’m excited to see the

testimonies this is really significant

moment for some people i know we’re

going a little long but i really believe

that god’s ministering to people and

plus this carrie and dan carly and

daniel are up next and so we’re she’s

taking her on time yeah

amen amen it’s worth it i think i love

carly what a blessing they’ve been to us

and to so many people and

what a blessing thank you very much

all right donna we need you to come up

here we’re going to play a little video

but we’ve got donna jones and you are

going to be so blessed by her testimony

so let’s roll this video and then we’ll

interview donna

hey

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i had a very high profile job i had a

photographic memory several people

several organizations several consulting

groups working for me

if you would knew me or you talked to me

i would tell you all about what i did

for a living and that was all my

identity was

then the brain injury came and my

identity for the next 13 and a half

years became the brain injury

january 6 1995 my car skidded on black

ice i ended up hitting my head and i hit

the bar on the side of the car window it

should have killed me

the first doctor diagnosed me with a

traumatic brain injury i fell below the

25 tile

anybody below the 25 tile is considered

legally disabled

cognitively i fell in the fifth to nine

percentile i was a math major and i

could not do a simple third grade math

problem

i had people that would go food shopping

for me i had people who paid my bills

because if i looked at the bill and then

i went to look at the checkbook that

just moment would just vanish

donna was working at att at the time

largest telecommunications company in

the world

and she didn’t know what the flashing

light on her phone was

she asked me she goes what is that i

can’t get rid of that

um

it means you have a message

that made me realize yeah

she needs help

it took me over two hours to get ready

in the morning i would forget to eat

breakfast so i would have this checklist

that i would go through take a shower

brush your teeth get dressed

it was very difficult for me to be

around people

it was very difficult for me to be

around a lot of noise

one pain felt like my head was like

maybe a pumpkin and somebody had a

machete knife and was just stabbing my

head another pain felt like an

electrical current that shoot from one

side of my head to the other

the pain was so bad in my eyes i

literally could not move if i moved at

all i could the pain was just would just

rip through my head in my eyes

to the point where i would sit with the

phone and i would dial 9-1

and i would sit there and say how bad

does it get before i dial that last one

ladies and gentlemen

please welcome

donna jones

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hallelujah man what a great testimony i

tell you i’ve gotten to know donna a

little bit she’s come here to school and

uh

it’s just awesome to see what god’s done

in your life and i know that that gave

us a little bit of an idea but what was

it what was it like to be in that state

especially having you said a

photographic memory yeah prior to that i

can’t relate to that yeah

i mean i used to freak out the people in

the office because i you know when we

would have a meeting or a discussion

and uh you know someone would try to

remember something and i could tell the

person what they said where they said it

and the seat they were sitting in i mean

it was that intense we would have

we had a call center so i worked for att

and one of my responsibilities was i was

leading the annual open enrollment the

healthcare open enrollment for over 700

000 employees

so i did the call center the

communications

management

leadership position yeah so uh so you

know we would have a training manual

that was this thick and you know i was

responsible for all the material that

was in there you know working with

healthcare companies and stuff and i

when we had we had 20 trainers that

would get up and train the 300 people in

my call center and i could tell you

every single thing that was in that

manual i could tell you the page it was

on you know i just had everything was in

my brain i had i thought everybody

thought like that

well they don’t

i can guarantee you they don’t until you

lose it and then you know then you know

yeah so were you a christian when all

this happened when you had this accident

you know i would say i wasn’t a

born-again christian but i really truly

believe that i when i was born i was

born with god i just loved god my whole

life i don’t have any other recollection

of not loving god did you have a

personal relationship a relationship but

you knew about him and i just knew god i

just loved him and um you know like my

my dad was an ex-marine and ex-police

officer so we were raised in an iron

fist

and i was more afraid to disappoint god

and more afraid to you know do something

wrong you know uh you know just because

i didn’t want to disappoint god i you

know

you think i’d be afraid of you know

doing something illegal in front of my

father or something like that but it was

really god that i knew was with me all

the time and the moment so it took 10

months before i would be diagnosed with

a traumatic brain injury i went to

doctor after doctor so this happened

through a car

i was in a car accident i skidded on

black ice and did you did you go to the

hospital thing no cause i’m you know i’m

a marine daughter you know i was i was

tough i mean you know prior to the

accident i never had uh i never was sick

you know i never had a you know i just

never got sick

you just tried to shake it off yeah you

know we were tough i mean my you know if

you fell i mean i fell out of trees i

was you know an athlete you know so i

felt so many times my dad would get up

and shake it off so when the car

accident happened i skidded on black ice

all right my car spun it hit a guardrail

i ended up in a ditch

and i really believe an angel came to

get me out of that ditch because it was

at night

and uh i remember them you know he i

literally got out of my car which is

crazy who does that you know gets out of

your car my my computer everything was

in the car he turned the car around i

drove my car just up the road and the

next day you know i called triple a

because i thought i was fine i mean i

knew i hit my head but i thought i was

perfectly fine

and

the

aaa came and the doc the the guy with

the car said how’d you get your car here

and i said well i drove it he said your

car is undrivable

i had no mechanism in the we i don’t you

know all that stuff but he literally my

car was totaled and he said there’s no

way you could have gotten your car here

you know even if you weren’t born again

at that time there’s a scripture hebrews

1 14 that says that god gave his angels

to us and they are ministers of god to

those who shall be

heirs of salvation and god knows if we

are going to have a relationship and i

think he saves our bacon lots of times

oh absolutely

yeah

well and you know it was interesting

because um it took 10 months so i went

to neurologist after neurologists and in

that 10 months i became clueless you

know every day

it wasn’t all automatically it wasn’t

automatic because i felt fine the next

day i felt tired i remember being tired

it was two days later that i was

spinning out of control like inside my

body was just continuously spinning and

i thought something’s not right and

you know god is just so amazing because

i worked in the healthcare department

you know i wasn’t a healthcare person

but i worked in surrounded by nurses and

you know all like medical people so one

of the women that was going to drive me

to because my car was totaled and was

going to drive me to the office i called

her and i said something’s not right i

don’t know what is you know what’s wrong

and stuff and she said well you got to

get to a hospital

and i was like how do you do that

and she said well you know just cool

because she had a big meeting so she

couldn’t take me she said well we had

telephone books i know the younger

generation’s not going to know the

yellow pages

so she told me to you know look in the

yellow pages i had no idea what she was

talking about so i knew i was in trouble

two days yeah usually

for a head injury like that your brain

will swell so in the two days my brain

had swell had really swollen

so i had no idea how to you know do any

of that so you couldn’t even get

yourself to that i couldn’t get to

myself the hospital so she called i

think a taxi or something so you know

people helped me get to the hospital but

you know i mean you know this was in

1995. so the challenge is in 1995 a lot

of people didn’t know about brain

injuries it wasn’t as common as it is

today

so when i went they just diagnosed me

with a concussion and they said you know

just take it easy and i thought well

this is crazy i’m fine you know like i

really thought i was fine and

i will encourage people if anybody has

either ever hit their head like that or

know somebody get them to a doctor

because i wasn’t in my right mind and i

really did think i was fine were the

doctors able to do anything for you now

they told you know with a concussion

what’s the point in getting to the

doctors

no you know why the reason why is

because um you get the right protocol

you know what to do like not watching tv

not reading a book um you know you just

have to really rest your brain

so i was thought i was fine so i called

work and said you know i’m perfectly

fine and my boss luckily she had the

insight to tell me you know why don’t

you take a week off and i thought you

know this is crazy you guys are

overreacting but as the days and the

months and the weeks would progress

my brain and body completely was

slipping away from me and so as this

video showed you you couldn’t even

look at a bill and keep your attention

long enough to write

not write a check yeah i had no

short-term memory my shirt-to-memory was

pretty much gone could you remember

long-term

um some things but not a lot you know um

what i can tell you is i felt i was

trapped inside my body i was literally

trapped in there and i knew i was smart

you know because prior to this i was in

school i was a straight a student um as

i was working full time i was i was

going to college at night for my

bachelor’s it was my second degree and i

was going for a degree in business i was

a straight-a student so i mean i knew i

had intelligence and i couldn’t remember

my co-workers names i could i

sometimes i would look at people and i

didn’t even recognize them and then you

know we had cubicles at that time and

someone had to actually

walk with me and and actually show me

where the cubicle was and they allowed

you to keep working you know that is

god’s grace i never lost my job

i never lost my job through the whole

yeah some good supervisors i did i

really was blessed and and what’s so

amazing at that time is that you know i

was working for a t it was in 1995 i was

diagnosed in october of 1995 the exact

moment that 18t was split splitting up

so we were going to have you were either

going to be assigned to att you were

going to be assigned to loosen or you

would lose their job because it was

their opportunity to get rid of a lot of

people

so i because of my skill set and because

of what i did i’m i’m really good at

doing something that no one’s ever done

before i love that challenge

so they moved me to lucent so my bosses

at atnt said no we want to protect her

we want to keep her at at t so they went

to the leaders of the of lucent

technologies and they said you know they

explained the situation and they said no

we’ll we’ll take care of her and we’ll

keep her so i had two companies fighting

over someone who has a traumatic brain

injury that with the prognosis of never

functioning again that’s amazing i know

that’s god i mean only god can do that

so how long did you have this until you

begin to start getting relief

so i had no relief for 13 and a half

years

and you stayed employed i said it is

that’s a miracle in itself absolutely i

know my friend carla’s here

and carla always does that she goes you

gotta tell them about work because she

thinks that’s just an

amazing miracle because i had co-worker

i had people reporting to me i had and

the gentleman that you saw he was a

consultant he was a concert consultant

that we paid and he just stepped up he

he helped me prioritize things and they

i just everybody stepped up i mean

people knew at this point like i

couldn’t stand up for any length of time

i had i didn’t have the ability to stand

up so if we were in a meeting or if they

ever saw me somewhere they were like

they would get me a chair you know and

make sure i sat down or and we had we

didn’t have computers like everybody has

computers so i had we had binders well i

literally could not even lift this this

would be too heavy for me to carry so

someone always carried my books my

binders i mean people were always there

i have one woman who’s one of my best

friends now she knew that if there were

f you know how you have fire drills in

the in a company

she knew where i was

every at any moment and if there was a

fire drill she would literally come get

me

and escort me out of the building

because she knew if a fire drill a bell

went off i would have no idea what to do

man god gave you faith he absolutely

favor praise god carrie i want to do i

am god’s favorite

so how did you begin to get over this

obviously you’re over i am completely

100 percent healed and whole

yes

so um first so for 13 and a half years

as you saw the thing i lived with severe

pain

um you know i had four different types

of pain one felt like my head was a

pumpkin and somebody was taking a

machete knife and you know one felt like

my head was full of a pin push like a

pincushion and thousands of pins were

pricked in my head another pen felt like

my head was in a vice and it was just

being squished and another pain i would

get these electrical zaps and at for 20

24 hours a day seven days a week

thirteen and a half years that’s how i

lived my life that’s amazing that you

didn’t lose your mind over there you

know

you know and that’s it’s just god’s

grace because most people with the

injury that i have um actually commit

suicide

so what was your i mean um

how are you spiritually coping with all

of this where were you emotionally

spiritually so it’s good and bad news

like i feel like what what kerry just

went through i was the opposite of all

those six points i was absolutely

opposite i didn’t know god loved me um i

didn’t my my whole identity was wrapped

up in my in the brain in first it was in

my job i was absolutely a workaholic

i thought it was a good thing because i

loved my job i couldn’t believe people

actually paid me to work i would have

done it for free i absolutely loved my

job but my whole identity was wrapped up

in my job until the brain injury once

the brain injury hit my entire identity

wrapped up in the brain injury but when

the doctor told me that i was

permanently disabled and i would never

live in mainstream society again i would

never be able to go back to school

because i was going to go for my

master’s i would never learn anything

again the only words out of my mouth

were that’s okay god has a plan for me

and the doctor looked at me and he’s

like okay if you want to believe in that

but i thought the plan was because i

didn’t know any of your teaching

and i just thought well god obviously

must have known that i was going to have

this accident and god obviously wanted

me to live with this brain injury so i

was determined to be the best brain

injury person

ever seen this is that sovereignty of

god again that andrew mullins was

talking about that carly was talking

about yeah so i thought well if god

wanted me to walk like this you know i

was going to be a spokesperson for brain

injuries because there are more people

living with a brain injury than any

other disease or disability put together

there are 50 now this is statistics back

in the day here’s some of your brain

injury advocacy yeah there were 53

million americans living with a brain

injury and i thought no one’s speaking

on behalf of brain injuries so i really

thought god chose me to do that that was

going to be so my whole identity was

wrapped up into there until

you know god is just so amazing you know

i think daniel had talked about

the faith of four friends and the story

in the bible where the four friends

you know what it it only has to take one

the faith of one friend and i had a

co-worker her name is elisa she’s

actually in the the long video and elisa

brought me to a women’s conference which

would be unheard of because i actually

couldn’t be around lights i couldn’t be

around people i couldn’t be around noise

i couldn’t even sit hold myself up

and we went to this you know i said yes

and we went to this conference and there

was a woman her name is kathy and she

was teaching

on biblical healing

and in that meeting my girlfriend elisa

just leaps out of her chair screaming

did you hear that did you hear that and

i didn’t because i couldn’t process when

people were talking to me um the only

way i can describe it is if you’re

familiar with the peanuts charlie brown

and when the kids are around adults they

hear what

that’s what i heard i heard sound so i

heard nothing but my girlfriend got the

revelation knowledge through that

teaching that i could be healed

i mean she was fully persuaded

and she was determined for us you know

we went to meet kathy and kathy said you

know well of course she can be healed of

the brain injury because kathy had been

listening to a lot of your teaching

so she was then taking that teaching and

teaching other people so we she was my

girlfriend was determined and she said

no you’re going to be healed from this

so now

now we have these two women who have to

teach someone whose brain

is has five to nine percent capacity to

learn

so they i don’t know how they did it but

you know so they started to teach me uh

you know and isaiah 53 kind of came

alive for me you know and and god you

know god knows exactly the person to put

into your life because i’m a very in my

head type person um and they were more

feelers you know they were more that

they could they could actually paint a

picture for me of who jesus was so

isaiah 53 came alive for me and you know

they would say you know by his stripes

you were healed you know you were healed

2 000 years ago at the cross and they

and i remember lisa saying you know

donald your birthday’s coming and you

know we bought i already bought your

birthday gift it’s already been put

bought and paid for it’s wrapped and

it’s sitting on my table but you don’t

have it yet because you haven’t taken it

so that’s a great isn’t that amazing

so that became so real to me and it it

like clicked inside of me and then they

had been um so my timings are always off

in a sense because you know not having

short-term memories but you know god is

kind of piecing things together but what

they were doing is you know it says

faith comes by hearing and hearing by

the word so i actually couldn’t read my

bible because my vision was impaired and

even if i tried to read the words that

they wouldn’t make any sense to me but i

could hear i could use my hearing but i

could also use my spirit

and even though i have no recollection

so i have no idea what you were teaching

on um but they kept sending me links and

i would listen to stuff so i don’t know

all the stuff i was listening to but i’m

i’m pretty sure it was like spirit soul

and body god wants you well that type of

thing and i would listen 24 hours a day

that’s all i did i was pumping the word

of god inside of me were you still

working at that time yep so i would work

i would cut you know this and while you

were at work i would do sometimes yeah i

would listen to different things you

know we didn’t have the fancy gadgets

they have today

but you know what i did is i separated

myself out from everything

because i you know i needed to just

focus on that and i just focused on the

word so what was the timing on this you

said 95 is when you had the injury and

it was 13 years so that would have been

what 2008 yeah and this is when you got

hold of that teaching and started trying

to renew your mind yeah so may of 2008

is when you know we got the word and i

remember um kathy saying to me um you

know you identify as someone with a

brain injury and i thought yeah i do you

know like how do you live without

identifying that’s what

carrie was talking about you had an

identity that wasn’t in christ it was it

wasn’t physical it was wrong yeah it was

definitely a wrong yeah wrong

understanding but you know it’s just how

i survived you know just you know and i

but you know god knows what i love about

god is right he knows us so individually

right so he knew me and he knew what

would get to me and what got to me is

what someone said well if you identify

and you could be healed and i thought no

you don’t understand this is permanent

you know and you know this is a

permanent but you know god knows me and

i just kept mulling it over and i said

my identity my identity and then they

just kept feeding me the word as best

they could and i truly believe while my

brain my natural brain didn’t understand

my spirit heard every single word

and the

amen i’ve heard that people uh in coma

as a matter of fact i think scott was

saying that even though he couldn’t

communicate and he was in a coma you

could hear

things that were going on and hear what

people were saying all the unbelief i

truly believe it because while i wasn’t

in like a coma state i was still trapped

i knew i was inside there and it was

that was really tough to handle you know

um but you know like what’s so fun is

like you know there’s so many over the

13 and a half years there’s so many

funny stories you know like what i did

oh my gosh funny things that i did you

know one thing i remember is um we were

having a party of them we have a pizza

party at work and you know pizza comes

in a square box

well the garbage can was round

and i was trying to take the square box

and put it in a round figure to turn

itself i had no idea and i just kept

trying because i really wanted to help

people you know you just see somebody

come up and go squash it and put it in

so i mean so how did you finally get

healed was it did you get hold of the

word or was it the faith of your

friends well it was their faith that was

carrying me during that time

but it was me listening to the word it

was just listening constantly to the

word and um and you know what it was

like

it’s hard to it’s hard to explain but it

literally came alive inside of me isaiah

53 5

by his stripes i was healed literally

exploded inside of me and i went i’m

healed i still had every single symptom

i still had the pain in my head i still

had the difficulty walking i still have

every every single symptom but i

believed the word of god over my

symptoms you know this is a reoccurring

theme that’s what the mullins were

saying

everybody they have to get fully

persuaded and they’re healed it doesn’t

matter what the physical looks like it’s

it’s so strange you can’t it’s hard to

explain that how could like how could i

be wobbling and you know doing things

and stuff but i knew i was healed that’s

what the bible calls faith it is

so uh put this in perspective for me

because according to your video

you were improving but then you had a

second accident hit your head

so i have three oh

we didn’t somebody needs to help you

learn how to drive or something no you

know what i want to be per i want the

truth to come out i was perfectly

stopped every time and someone hit me

so so the accident i am really a good

driver and i have co-workers there’s

some people here that can

testify um so in 95 was the accident um

2006

um in march of 2006 um

my doctor found a mass on my thyroid

and

they they were afraid to operate because

they said they weren’t sure if i would

wake up from the from the anesthesia but

the mass was choking me to death and i

couldn’t breathe and i couldn’t swallow

so i had to go in for surgery so as we

went in for surgery um as i woke up

um they said they damaged my vocal cords

and they said the probability is i might

not talk

so uh so you’re like wait a minute what

looks like everybody’s problem all

wrapped up in one yeah you know what i

think i’m making up for lost time

because i never was sick a day in my

life prior to this so then three months

after that um you know you know after

the surgery

i was coming home from my god daughter’s

13th birthday party and i can see a

woman um

you know driving right erratically and i

pulled off to the side of the road i’m

literally up against the guardrail and

she because you’re such a good driver

you were watching in the rear view

mirror no i saw she was in front of me i

remember my driver’s ed teacher identify

predict decide and execute

17 years old and i still remember that

and so i i could see and i knew she was

out of control because

it had rained and i knew the road was a

little slippery and uh so i my car was

up against the guardrail and she hit me

head-on totaled my car and i ended up

back in the hospital with a brain injury

on top of a brain injury

i mean how does you know you’re just

like really this is crazy

so then so that was 2006. so now i have

two brain injuries 2008 is when i get

radically healed

and then um you know just studying on

the word i you know just believed and

you know it was just amazing that

something went whoosh off the top of my

head and the brain injury was completely

gone praise the lord amen

amen

you know it was like to me god just

lifted it off when you know when the

manifestation happened but i had

believed you know i just believed so now

i’m five years into now trying to get my

body back because my body had completely

atrophied so it was very difficult to

move my arms and legs and stuff so five

years i’m trying to you know get my body

stronger and trying to now live a life

out in the world because i was isolated

you know you know so isolated during

that time and i’m driving to work i’m

stopped at a traffic light and someone

decided they wanted to go before me and

full full accelerate right into the back

of the car and totaled my car and i

ended up back in the hospital again with

another traumatic brain injury and this

was after you’d received your healing so

it’s after i received so at this time i

only knew that god wanted me well

that was it that there was no way god

wanted me to live with this by stripes

so i remember sitting in um

you know the hospital and you know

during the 13 and a half years i was i

was really good i you know i never

really did get depressed and i you know

because i was going to be that best

brain injury person

this this last one was tough you know

and i remember sitting in there and you

know when you’ve experienced these you

know dizziness disorientation all that

stuff

it becomes very familiar you know

anybody that has sickness for a long

time it becomes your identity but it’s

so familiar to you so i recognize the

symptoms right away so the doctors

didn’t even have to tell me and i

remember sitting there and i’m going no

god wants me well god wants me well but

this time it took an emotional it really

hit me emotionally and you know i went

home so all i know is god wants me to i

don’t know i have authority to speak to

those symptoms i i don’t know anything

else because you know i just didn’t

learn anything yet i didn’t come to

karis bible college yet

so i didn’t have a lot of um i didn’t

have authority i didn’t understand my

authority but you know we were i was

just you know kind of just surviving

trying to survive because now the pain

was almost like even worse and at this

point my my vision was so impaired and

that’s when you saw that when they said

you know she was going to dial 9-1-1 and

i literally every night just sat there

and i go i’m a woman of faith when do i

call after your third injury yeah this

was the third brain injury yeah and um

you know i’m like a woman of faith i

should be able to you know like handle

this and you know god just brings the

right people and there was another woman

at this particular church that also

taught you know biblical healing and she

god told on me because god called her

because i didn’t help anybody you know i

want one of the negatives about me is i

won’t tell people that i’m struggling or

hurt maureen’s daughter i’m a marine

daughter

i am tough i am very tough

and so i wasn’t telling anybody what was

really happening because i thought well

this is just between me and god god’s

going to heal me i never asked anybody

pray for me

so but god tells so god pull you know

must have told you know this woman she

called me up and she said you know i

don’t think you’re telling us everything

and i go and then i just lost it and i

was like oh my god i’m in so much pain

you know and i can’t move like i

couldn’t even move it like an eyelash

without being in just excruciating pain

and she just said to me keep your eyes

on jesus

and i just so i laid there and i just

said you know lord my eyes are in you my

eyes are in you and i fell asleep and i

remember waking up the next day and uh

you know i always had i wish you had

gospel truth back there or wish i knew

about it but i had i always had

something christian playing you know

just because i wanted the word of god

pumping through my house

and i remember it was like 11 40

and um joyce meyers i i believe it was

just myers that was on and it’s so funny

because you it’s funny how you remember

certain things and i called out to jesus

i just i said jesus jesus jesus and

something physically fell off me to the

fact that i thought it was cloaked my

clothes i thought i like lost my clothes

and i was trying to catch it and uh

brain woke completely up pain completely

left everything gone

and i sat there and i said god what was

that like what happened and god said

fear fell off you

amen

so fear is a spirit it is definitely a

spirit and you know so i was trying to

figure out what happened and i believe

you know this was three and a half weeks

now and i feel like as every day was

progressing i was just like oh my god i

don’t want to live like this again for

13 and a half years so i really feel

like you know that jesus just took that

fear broke that fear off but i do think

i i must have opened the door to that

yeah i mean the third time you thought

man all of this effort i’ve put in and

i’m going to have to go through this

yeah that

hope deferred makes a heart sick it was

tough yeah yeah and that’s the scripture

proverbs 13 12. and once you’ve got this

is something we talked about in the

panel but if you put your hope out there

and don’t see something come to pass

it’s just a normal reaction to become

disappointed depressed

and you have to fight against it yeah i

didn’t have the tools yet so

i do apparently when did you get hold of

the word and really get strong

so when so let’s see so 2013 the

accident was 2013.

um so i would say probably i remember

2014 because i had to look all the stuff

up i looked um kathy and i had went to

new york you were i’m from new jersey so

we took a ferry and you were actually

teaching in new york so i think i would

say probably only 2014 is when i started

watching you know your stuff and knowing

i was watching it

you know watching you you’re teaching

and you know it’s just slowly but you

know it’s what’s so amazing so i did

come to charis bible college and when

did you come in 2019 so i just graduated

in may

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and you’re coming back for a third year

i am coming back for third year what

what track yeah ministry track yeah

yes

that’s awesome so yeah how’s it been are

you totally back to normal now are you

still yeah completely yeah totally back

to normal to the fact that you know you

know god is you know he’s so amazing

because not only does he restore

everything he makes it even better so

you know when i you know hear where the

doctor’s saying that i would never learn

again and you know i think in the video

it talked about like you know just

cognitive tests i mean you know doctors

would sit there and say fill in the

blank and they would say the blank went

to school well you could say the boy the

girl the door you could have it i could

not even answer that

um the doctors would say count back from

count backwards from 100.

and i’d look at them like i don’t know

what you’re saying they were like well

yeah not 199

and i go okay and they’re like

and and they would get annoyed with you

you know but i really had no idea i

can’t even imagine what that would have

been like you know if i was to lose my

memory and couldn’t remember scripture i

think i might just say jesus take me

home

because this is how i live i mean well

and i think for me you know i put my

whole emphasis on school i was a

straight a student my whole life i was

one of those strange people that went to

summer school just because i wanted to

go to school

that is weird that is weird

i must admit that’s a little weird you

had a little bit of brain injury before

but you know what it actually

served me well because of the level of

knowledge i had and the accident it

brought me down

but it didn’t diminish me completely so

i still had stuff in there and you know

god gave me a very creative brain so

being creative i am the doctor said i

was a master at disguising my disability

so he gave me and i was able to keep my

job so i mean i actually did something

just about out of time what would you

say to people you’ve suffered through uh

that was originally 13 years but much

more than that two decades you’ve been

through pain like almost 20 years yeah

so

what do you say to people i would say

get the word inside of you

you know however you can if you can’t

read the word listen to the word you

know however get it inside you know

kathy always would say and i would

always steal this because i think it’s

such a great visual you know if

someone’s in the hospital and they’re

getting intravenous you know it’s

getting pumped inside of them whether

it’s medicine or food or whatever

i say get the word of god intravenously

inside of you because it it is alive

because it was in a live a person whose

brain wasn’t functioning well that’d be

awesome if we could just put an

intravenous thing and pump the word into

yeah

yeah

so that’s awesome has your time at uh

kara’s been good it is you know um it’s

you know what’s so amazing what god has

showed me is i you know i had not really

learned anything you know my whole life

and i would sit in class and you know

the teachers would teach stuff and i was

like i know that how do i know that i

know that how do i know that you know

and it was just kind of so surprising

and god showed me as i’ve been here he

showed me he said you know during that

period of time

i was downloading the information into

you you know just like paul when paul

after his conversion and he went out

into the desert and god like you know

was teaching him so i really believe god

was teaching me so much and then

charis has confirmed it you know charis

has taught me i have a lot of people

when i teach something they’ll say i

knew that but until you get it uh

to where you can point and say here is

my authority and stuff you don’t have

the confidence in it and stuff so and i

think the other thing i would leave

people with is you especially if you’re

struggling with healing get a revelation

knowledge of what i think carrie was

talking about head versus my everything

was in my head it wasn’t in my heart and

it’s until you get that revelation

knowledge um that that’s just

life-altering for you because that’s

what so you were living out of your

brain and satan attacked your brain

my brain and my voice and so now you’re

living out of your heart he can’t have

your body or anything can’t stop me from

talking anymore

well praise god for what god did for you

daughter that’s just awesome amen amen

amen

all right well i think

daniel and caro carly are up all right

all right praise god man this has been

awesome i’m sorry that we’ve gone so

long but

it is what it is

so uh

it’s easier to ask forgiveness and it is

permission so you guys come on up let’s

welcome daniel and carly

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wow look these guys are pros they even

changed the cup awesome thank you so

much

i just i just wanted to come up here and

let you know i know that as when carly

came up here and she was just you know

she felt this pull on her heart to talk

about partners i know when they passed

out the envelopes these envelopes it

didn’t have anything on there about

partnership

how you can partner there but some of

you may have just wanted to give

if you go out to our apartment our

partner booth it’s right out this door

right up this aisle you’ll get an

envelope like this

and there you can see how to give

monthly and how you can partner but this

little gift that you get that’s inside

is power pack because you can share

with other people what you’ve learned

here and everything point them to awm

ministries and also they too can be

partners with the ministry amen so don’t

forget to go there today you can put

this in the envelope tonight at

tonight’s session thank you

also i want to say on our healing

university curriculum we were talking

about these healing journeys every one

of our healing journeys are attached to

that healing university curriculum so

if you buy that particular

set called healing university all of

those healing journeys are in that as

well so and i also just want to say real

quickly where’s donna at there you are

donna is one of our prayer ministers

and

i just think this is so awesome to rub

this in the devil’s face

amen because not only has she been

healed from these traumatic brain

injuries but she is a powerful prayer

minister when she was on their missions

trip just recently after her second

during her second year uh some of her

fellow students were kind of you know in

a good way kind of freaking out because

everybody who she prayed for received a

manifestation of their healing

now this is what the devil intends for

harm this is a great picture of how god

turns around for good amen so donna we

applaud you

that’s so awesome

amen

and uh carly and i you know

share with them what you’ve got to give

away here because this is pretty cool

and if we don’t do it now we’re going to

forget we’re really yeah we’re not great

at that but um because we’re both

horrible at this we’re both horrible at

this yeah probably our spouses would do

a better job but um this is a a booklet

that we put together and we want to make

sure everyone has access to one of these

healing booklets 39 reasons healing is

yours and donald did a great job of

explaining why we need to have the word

of god on the inside of us when we’re

standing for a challenge you know for a

battle of healing or whatever it is we

don’t have the word of god inside of us

for it to bear fruit right and so this

is um healing scriptures that beat

sickness to death there’s scriptures in

here and then little activities that you

can do as well

everyone can get one for free it’s just

as a gift and they’re going to have them

right there ready for you at the table

just outside after this session and you

can get them online as well i think

there’s some kind of link i’m not quite

sure what it is our house how really

smart people oh that just put it up see

look at that amazing that’s the link if

you’re watching online territories

ministries.com healing is here and you

can get it on there as well if you want

a digital one yeah and several of you

been asking about the song my body is

the temple of the holy ghost we’re

actually going to be doing this tonight

but it is on our cd and the cd is back

at our table daniel

limestonescollective.com

and in this particular cd is a qr code

to where you can take your smartphone

and hover over the code and it’ll bring

up all the charts for those of you who

are musicians so the lead sheets and the

chord charts and all that stuff is

inside of here so if i go in there will

i be able to sing yes you can see and

here’s

it is a miracle but what’s really cool

about this is after you hear me doing

the song on the cd we put the track on

there without the lead vocal

to where you can literally sing along

like karaoke it’s like karaoke yeah it’s

a party on a cd and we know when you put

this in your car you’re going to be that

person that’s going to be jamming along

with them

yeah so who doesn’t have this cd yet

jeremy be my runner here real quick and

this is my grandson

and

he’s modeling a t-shirt right now by the

way and we have another we have a whole

bunch of t-shirts out at our table that

have expressions of like for instance

this one is god wants what he paid for

and on the back it says you

so come on give that away jaren to

somebody and this cd great

that’s awesome

they’re pretty excited about that man

guys i i don’t know if you’re feeling

what we’re feeling but the passion of

god the compassion of god in this place

and the lives that have been touched

carly i mean just your story alone

moves me to tears over and over and over

again and with hannah and seeing now the

kids growing up and being teenagers and

josh just graduated from second year and

is going to be interning down in texas

and i mean

all of these lives these stories it’s

not just you that gets transformed but

it’s families it’s generations

generations are being changed

and

guys like we were saying earlier all of

this is first of all because andrew and

jamie said yes

amen

and second of all because all of you

being partners and we said yes to what

god is doing and when you give god your

yes i’m telling you powerful things

begin to happen it’s true it’s true

it’s been fun been fun we’ve got so many

testimonies you guys i wish we had time

to share some of these but i asked tracy

my assistant to

give us some of these testimonies and

carly and i were talking about this i

mean we literally have hundreds of

testimonies that have come in in here

from uh the internet as well as from

people here who have been healed of

every kind of thing you can imagine

and you know i just love the fact that

jesus is the name above every name

whatever it is that you have

his name is higher and his name he’s

been given we’ve been given authority in

his name amen so now as we use this

authority as kerry was teaching this

morning knowing who we are in christ we

begin to see all these other things just

begin to fall off there’s nothing

impossible jesus said to the one who

believes and he’s just looking to show

himself strong on behalf of those who

will believe him who will believe the

report of the lord

and so i’m just so blessed i i

sit there and have to wipe my eyes over

and over again at these stories just

because they’re so emotional they’re so

life impacting and the fact that we all

get to be a part of this amen

you know one of our employees was just

healed uh of a brain tumor uh through

the healing school just a few weeks ago

i didn’t even realize this but he had an

inoperable brain tumor and

during healing school

he’s working here he works for i.t and

avl

and

come backstage and he’s just ecstatic

and he’s like i’m healed and i’m like

well praise god i am too you know

he said no you don’t understand anybody

has to share with me i’ve had a

traumatic brain a tumor

in my brain

well of course we’re all rejoicing and

crying in the back and thanking god for

his goodness and then several weeks

later he went to have an mri and a

checkup and there’s absolutely no

trace of a tumor in his brain come on

that’s awesome pretty awesome that’s

awesome so this is the goodness of god

that’s being expressed all over and

listen you know how can you not tell

your testimony how can you not share

what it is that god has done when god

has done so much we literally are living

in the overflow we are yeah so carly and

i want to just take a very few minutes

20 minutes of our time this morning to

be able to share a few things and you

know what it’s okay because we don’t

really care if we have 10 minutes what

we’re going to give you is what god

wants to give and our time together

isn’t about me and carly our time

together is about the agenda of the holy

ghost amen

and what the holy ghost has done this

morning let alone this week has been

incredible so can we just tell god thank

you for how he has orchestrated today

he’s been good to us it’s been awesome

come on

now this conference um you know that it

started i don’t know how many have many

years ago it’s evolved 2014 was our

first 2014. yeah we had a little more

hair and we’re a little younger there

well you know you know you know the

glory goddess but anyway you know this

conference isn’t just focused on helping

us to receive what god has for us even

though that’s awesome it’s not just

about us right it’s about what are we

going to do with what god has given us

yeah and now you all have a problem

because you’ve been sitting here for

four days almost under the word of god

and some of you know you’ve been changed

how many of you been touched this week

changed forever right look around keep

your hand up and look around okay so now

we have no excuse do we

right because we’re changed we have been

transformed by the word of god the

question is what are we going to do with

what we have received yeah we have been

talking all week many people have

mentioned this we have the dead raising

power of jesus on the inside of us amen

we are filled with power with the holy

ghost we’ve got authority as believers

when we speak i tell you what mountains

move out of the way right no weapon

formed against us is gonna prosper we’ve

been in a bubble this week right we have

been in this cocoon of faith where it’s

easy to receive and p and the

expectation is high and that’s awesome

but really the test happens when you

leave here yeah what happens because i

don’t know about you but i went to

conferences and um it was like but you

could become a conference junkie where

you go for that mountaintop experience

this literally is a mountaintop

experience i’ve decided that on the

stage this is mountain top time yeah

right you’re in mountain time this is

mountain top time that’s right because

it goes quicker but then you go home and

you hit like the valley you go back to

everyday life with the things around you

and your regular schedule and it’s

really easy to forget that god has a

plan he has a mission and he’s put his

power on the inside of you and it needs

to come out somewhere amen and so we we

just for the next few minutes we just

want to encourage you and and give you

some practical tips really of how to

learn to step out in boldness without

timidity and minister to others what

you’ve learned this week amen

so let’s go to second peter chapter one

and i want to just share verse three and

four here ii peter chapter one it says

as his divine nature has given to us all

things everybody say all things all

things all things that pertain to life

and godliness notice how here through

the knowledge of him

who called us by glory and virtue by

which have been given to us

exceedingly great and precious promises

that through these these promises you

may be partakers of the divine nature

having escaped the corruption that is in

the world through lust so when we know

what we have what we have on the inside

it’s like it’s been said several times

this week freely we have received now

freely give well if you don’t know what

you have you can’t give anybody anything

but see when you know what you’ve been

freely given then you’re able to freely

give that to somebody else

and we see that example in scripture so

many times you know the lame man who was

at the gate beautiful you know such as i

have give i unto you and boom there was

a supernatural manifestation of the

power of god and that man’s life was

forever changed but if peter and john

had known what they had they would never

have been able to give it to somebody

else they could have just met him and

said you know what i’m just not feeling

it today right i’m just not feeling

particularly anointed i don’t know i

just haven’t been fasting and praying

enough i just i don’t know i’m just not

in the mood yeah right but we don’t know

what’s in us necessarily until we go to

share it until we take it a step and

really this is being obedient right this

is part of the great commission

believers lay hands on the sick and they

recover we need to go into all the world

and make disciples amen and i think

there are some things that actually stop

us from doing that and the verse that

you just read there you know it’s

interesting because it says we have

great and precious promises

but that we we access those through

relationship

all of this week we’ve been learning

it’s been hammered over and over again

relationship with god understand how

much god loves you amen i understand

what you have and who you are in christ

but then we’ve got a responsibility to

do something with that yeah and we

really get to see what’s on the inside

of us when we start to become partakers

yeah you know the word partake it means

to take part

i know it’s deep right it’s really deep

i know some of you are expecting

something glorious in the seventies we

call that a heavy review that’s a heavy

rabbit sailor yeah so we need to

cooperate with what god is doing amen

and we are the best shot he has in this

world that’s right okay we’re it there

ain’t no b plan there’s no earth plan b

okay right how many of you want to see

jesus come back soon

okay then he says occupy till i come

yeah let’s get busy with the father’s

business

because i don’t know how long it is

before jesus is going to come back or if

he’s going to come back in our lifetime

but my personal mission is to get to

heaven with as many people as possible

come on great i want to take people with

me yes i want them to go i want them to

see the healing power of god and the

thing about healing is a dinner bell for

the gospel that’s right right i mean

we’ve had people in healing school that

didn’t know jesus yeah and they came and

said do you know do you want to join or

receive jesus and they’re like nope i

just want us i just want this pain to go

we’ve we’ve prayed for them pain has

left their body they’ve been so blown

away by what’s happened then we’re like

do you want to receive jesus well yeah

yeah yeah of course right i want to

learn to live in what you’ve got i want

to understand this yeah so we can we can

become partakers and i think the number

one thing that stops people from taking

this word that they’ve heard this week

and really stepping out and ministering

to other people is they just don’t feel

equipped they don’t feel adequate they

may be in fear that’s right we often

look to ourselves as our source thinking

that it’s about what i possess inside

instead of realizing no it’s his divine

power that’s given us all things that

pertain unto life and godliness it’s not

by us but it’s by him you know carly and

i have seen thousands literally i’m not

exaggerating

thousands of healings but we have never

healed a single person right

isn’t that amazing

the spirit of god the life of god jesus

is the healer and we’ve been saying that

all week long but many times when we see

ourselves as the source instead of

realizing like kerry was talking about

this morning who we are in christ right

we’ve got to know what we have in order

to give it somebody else that’s awesome

you mean give it away give it away come

on yeah so in the sharing is caring

what sharing is caring

okay

that was deep too that must be something

i know sometimes stuff comes out my

mouth and i’m like carly just that must

have been something english yes we yeah

so i think first of all carly what do

you think of this we have to be honest

with ourselves yeah it’s good you know

we really have to be honest with

ourselves where are we instead of trying

to be someplace where we think we should

be

you know a lot of people want to be

something but they really don’t believe

that

right they want to like for instance

prosperity a lot of people want to be

prosperous but they really don’t believe

they are

they don’t see themselves that way so

certainly in our heart what we believe

about healing or actually about anything

about a promise in the word of god is

the first step to enabling us to um

really get truth in us and that the holy

spirit takes that truth and makes it

revelation yeah and you know the thing

about the word of god we’ve been saying

this all week but the word of god is so

amazing on so many levels but it’s alive

and it’s powerful

and so

this word is different than any other

book in the universe in that we don’t

have to try to make the word of god come

true

see you don’t have to use your faith

quote unquote to make the word of god

come true the word of god is already

true amen john 17 verse 17. the word of

god is already alive and the word of god

is already powerful so when we stop

trying to be powerful and be all that in

a bag of chips and we realize that it’s

the word of god that’s alive and

powerful then the word of god begins to

flow through us not just be in us but

flow through us to bring the

supernatural transformation that we’re

talking about amen and this takes an

element of humility you know i talked a

bit about this yesterday but submitting

ourselves to god and saying god you know

what we don’t have all that together we

don’t we just we don’t know everything

we don’t have

we don’t have full complete revelation

on the word of god but we’re gonna we’re

gonna believe you and we’re gonna be

bold and we’re gonna stand up for

what is right and we are gonna we’re

gonna step beyond our comfort zones and

even beyond our own fears and anxieties

and inadequacies

one of the things that people say a lot

is how can i minister to somebody when i

have something going on in my own body

yeah in fact we often think we have to

be in this place of quote perfection

really which is just a lie of the enemy

in fact andrew encourages you if you’re

struggling in an area physically you

know the best thing you can do is go

pray for somebody right right the best

thing you can do is give it away because

what you believe you’re putting into

action regardless of what’s happening in

your own body amen what you’re believing

you’re putting into action you’re

putting faith to that so instead of

being limited by your lack or what’s the

worst that could happen you’re actually

looking at the full potential the

expectation and what’s the best that

could happen right right i mean the

truth is all of us are in we know in

part

right and we’re starting with where we

are with what we know and i think one of

the biggest lies of the enemy is you’re

not ready yet

you know you got to do this you got to

get your degree you got to go to

seminary you got to blah blah blah no

you know what what you got to do is

start where you are with what you have

yeah and when you put that seed in the

ground i guarantee you just like i

guarantee you yeah

right i guarantee you that that seed

that you plant is going to produce when

it’s the word of god because again it’s

alive and powerful god just needs you to

start where you are you need that

cooperation you need that cooperation it

says in second corinthians he says um

corinthians 3 verse 5.

it says not that we are sufficient of

ourselves to think of anything as being

of ourselves but our sufficiency is from

god who makes us sufficient as ministers

of the new covenant so good he makes you

sufficient as a minister whether you

feel like it or not that’s right there’s

many times when you you can ask any of

the speakers that have been up here

there’s many times we don’t feel like it

right when we don’t get up in the

morning you know feeling completely

anointed right you know we’ve got to

move past our feelings we haven’t got

time to sit there dwelling on those

things and understand that god makes you

sufficient whether you feel like it or

not yeah and because because he’s the

healer or we’re not that actually gives

us a place of freedom to know that we

don’t really have any responsibility for

the results

think about this some of the reasons

that people do not step out and take

opportunities that maybe god gives you

maybe you see somebody that you and you

feel compassion for them you feel drawn

to them but you hold back and you don’t

go and offer to pray for them there’s a

little part the voice on the inside

right that says well maybe i’ve got

something wrong with you know my body

and i feel inadequate we start listening

to those insecurities or what if the

person rejects me or what if i pray

nothing happens right what if they die

what do i do then and we let all this

negative self-talk hinder us from what

god has calling us to do

right but we could we can get past that

and and one of the things i always want

to say is it’s much easier

to pray for somebody else than it is to

believe god for yourself it’s true yeah

and there’s there’s a one major reason

for that is you don’t have any of the

symptoms in your own body when you pray

for somebody else

you don’t have their pain you don’t have

their their trauma and their past

negative experiences you know when we

really get down on the inside we’ve got

jesus the dead raising power

resurrection life on the inside of us

and when we lay hands on the sick

they’re going to recover because the

minute we open our mouth we release that

power that’s on the inside of us yeah

all that god needs us to be is willing

yeah he makes us sufficient we’re

already sufficient whether we feel

sufficient or not he already makes us

sufficient he’s just waiting for us to

be willing yeah that’s right he just

needs our yes yeah and you know the

thing about god is he’s given us his yes

already every promise in christ is yes

and amen not maybe or if you pray hard

enough it’s going to come to pass or you

know if you give enough no every promise

is already a yes in christ so he’s given

us his yes he’s just waiting for us to

give us give him ours kim it’s powerful

his promise is a yes and amen so can i

ask this this morning how many of you

are going to make a commitment today to

say you know what i may not be where i

want to be but thank god i’ve left i’m

going to make a commitment to start

right where i am with what i have today

everybody who’s going to make that

commitment let me see your hands yeah

amen come on

yeah

all over this place so father i just

thank you for starting faith right now

we release faith to begin this journey

lord god that that this is

us giving you our yes this is us saying

yes to you we’re not going to wait till

tomorrow we’re not going to wait till

next week we’re not going to wait till

next year we’re gonna put this into

operation in our lives in our families

and we’re gonna see destinies change

we’re gonna see generations transformed

and we’re gonna see nations come to

jesus as a result and we give you all

the glory for it in jesus name amen amen

thank you lord

so um

man that’s powerful listen if you’ve

really said that from your heart god is

going to give you opportunities

right so be ready be ready in the least

likely of places i think we can probably

do eight hours or so of prayer training

in about five minutes would you reckon i

think so i think we can do this we’re

into the miracle business that’s not a

big deal the number one skill when

praying for somebody else practical tips

right here is learning to listen to the

holy spirit that’s it

we understand that jesus is the healer

that he’s deposited all the power on the

inside of us we know that he’s he’s the

one that’s doing the healing and

therefore we not we aren’t responsible

for the results we’re merely the

delivery system

and when we understand that when we lay

hands on somebody power enters into them

we’re not responsible for those results

man that that takes all the pressure off

if we see something happening i’m

telling you it’s true but the skill

that’s really going to help you in

ministry situations is learning to

listen to the holy spirit that’s why

this week that we’ve given you

opportunities to receive the baptism of

the holy spirit and if you’re if you

still haven’t we’re going to have

premises in a moment that can help you

do that yeah but as you minister you see

in the scriptures any time that jesus

ministered to people he didn’t minister

it wasn’t cookie cutter yeah he did it

differently every time and he was led by

this spirit because we when we lay hands

on someone and we learn to listen to the

spirit leading us he’ll tell us exactly

what’s wrong with them that’s right

remember god made them and so if they’re

broken he knows how to fix them god

knows right he knows him and he’ll help

you to pray effectively yeah so

listening is an important skill it’s so

true and you know the enemy is one of

the biggest lies of the enemy is that

you don’t know the voice of the lord you

know so everybody else knows the voice

of god better but you don’t

and i’m amazed at how many people have

been told that same line over and over

and over again but look at this out of

john chapter 10 and i believe it’s verse

27

that says my sheep hear my voice

so if you’re a believer guess what

you’ve got the ability to hear the voice

of god

so don’t believe the lie because if you

are a believer you can hear his voice

and the bible says here my sheep hear my

voice and i know them and they follow me

so carly you’re absolutely right i mean

the most important skill here is not

just turning something like this into a

formula but it’s really listening to

what the spirit of god is saying and

putting that into operation you say yes

and you listen yeah and then you obey

they hear by voice they know me and they

obey they follow me yeah so then you

just listen and you do what he tells you

to do yeah right you speak to whatever

it is that that comes up yeah we like to

say we speak to the mountain swiftly

that’s right or just literally speak to

the mountain about your god yeah you

know this sometimes this is revelation

to people when we when we disesteem the

problem and we magnify the answer so in

ministry situations we want to create an

atmosphere of faith where people come in

and we place an expectation on the

inside of them they might tell you

everything that’s wrong and it’s been

going on for years but you said but have

you met my god have you seen my jesus

yet let me tell you what’s gonna happen

the minute i lay hands on you life and

power from the inside of my spirit is

gonna hit you on the inside it’s gonna

touch every single cell in your body and

you’re not gonna be the same yeah when

you start to exude that boldness when

you start to speak directly to the

problem and use the authority that god

has given you in christ i tell you the

devil’s not going to want to hang around

that’s right

and you know when you start where you

are it may not look pretty last night

there was a gentleman who uh began to

walk

and

you know it didn’t look pretty

but he was walking and i i just

encouraged him i said you know nobody

said this has to be pretty

right you just you just begin to do what

god’s called you to do i remember the

first time i grew up baptist and in our

church we never ever raised our hands

ever in fact the only time we raised our

hands is if we were hot

if you were hot yeah oh you wanted

coffee yeah

now those charismatic churches right

that’s right so the first time i ever

raised my hands they went this high and

i just told god take it or leave it

they’re not coming any higher it’s as

far as it gets

right i mean i just started where i was

and so

we don’t have time for so many of the

stories that carly and i love to share

but carly tell them about the goldfish

because you know this this this is such

a great picture of starting where you

are so i didn’t know anything about

anything okay but you know um i’d always

looked and said man people being raised

from the dead in the scripture that’s

wild that’s crazy and we’ve seen people

raised from the dead right here on this

stage yeah we had a baby raised from the

dead right here two years ago right here

a lady brought her baby that had died

and we prayed for it and the baby came

back to life but you know that started

with a goldfish but i didn’t know a lot

about a lot of things but i knew that

god had a plan and that he he had he

there was some sort of power in our

words and so our goldfish died because

our two-year-old kept poisoning with

orange juice

right i mean it’s goldfish so the

goldfish was gold it was gold and orange

juice no match for a two-year-old but

you know after three days i’m like this

thing is stinky and floating sideways

and i need to get it out so i put it on

the counter top and there was part of my

nursing training that wanted to do cpr

but i just drew the line

i wasn’t gonna go there

i wasn’t gonna go there but i’m pressing

my finger on it anyway you know this

little distended stomach one eyes

hanging out it looks a bit green around

the gills literally smells really really

bad death has a smell you know and then

and and then i’m like hang in a minute

and i just started speaking life into

that goldfish i said you know fish come

alive come alive and and before i know

the one little flipper started one

little flipper and then i realized

something i have gold rich goldfish

raising fakes

come on

right i have goldfish raising faith come

on you have got to start with the faith

you have right now you don’t have to be

a giant in these areas you just need to

start using what you have start with a

headache start with a symptom start with

an ache start with a pain before you hit

the tylenol yeah start where you’re at

and god will surprise you yes amen and

you’ll start gaining confidence in

ministry like you’ve never seen things

that terrified you before will become

just just another giant just another

giant amen just another one to knock his

head off that’s right and you know god

is so for us if we really just got a

picture of this how for us god really is

he’s not against us he’s our helper did

you know that the whole one of the names

for the holy ghost is the helper amen i

love that help is an effective prayer

biggest prayer of all so when the helper

is helping us all things are possible

and we just want to encourage you

through this conference and and through

the year this year

you know there’s so much impossible

that’s staring at us in the in our

culture and our generation right now

we have the ability to turn impossible

into possible

through the holy ghost through the life

of christ within us and i believe god’s

just looking for those who will say yes

to his word and to his plan amen amen

amen some of you need to take a baby

step

i just really feel like you need to take

a baby step of faith you need to try and

do something that you couldn’t do before

you’ve listened you’ve been in the word

of god you’ve been surrounded by an

atmosphere of faith you don’t even need

us to pray for you you can receive in

your seat right where you’re at right

now yeah right now the power of god’s

already working in your body but there’s

there needs to be a response there needs

to be a start somewhere that’s right

somebody needs to do something check

something bend something taken take a

hearing aid out wiggle a big toe do

something because you know as you as

they went they were healed yeah as they

went they were healed and god’s gonna

meet you in your place of faith

specifically there’s someone with

intestinal disease

that you’ve never been able to eat guess

what you know what we’ve got lunch

coming right there’s a step of faith for

you there is something that you can do

where you can cooperate in faith with

what god is trying to get to you amen so

our point today is is listen hear but be

willing and obedient to take a step

take a step the steps that you take here

you’ll keep taking when you walk out the

door on the way home tonight amen amen

so let’s stand up to our feet we’re

about two minutes over but that’s okay

and uh

i’m telling you if our prayer ministers

can come and and get into place here

this morning again and by the way

tonight uh we’ve got remember we have

our workshops this afternoon and then

tonight andrew womack is going to be

speaking it’s going to be an incredible

night

we’re going to have a choir on stage

with us tonight and it’s going to be

just a great great time in the holy

ghost

but

i just want to say one thing and that is

that the power of god is greater than

your situation

the power of god is greater than

anything we could ever imagine and when

we start where we are with what we have

the lord meets us in our place he said

be it unto you according to your faith

what do you believe do you want to be

made well do you want to be made whole

and i believe god is asking us that very

question this morning do you want to be

made whole be it unto you according to

what you believe amen so as you’re being

honest with god and as you’re saying to

god i know that all things are possible

man i want to encourage you this morning

go for it

start where you are but go for it and

believe god for what you are

what you are desiring what you’re seeing

on the inside of your heart and i

believe we’re going to see the kingdom

of god manifest

right now in powerful powerful ways amen

amen jesus can we give jesus some praise

amen thank you lord amen

come on down and get what you came for

amen

amen we love you so if you’re ready to

receive come down to the isles here and

our ushers will direct you and

those of you who are not going to be

ministered to in this way don’t forget

we’ve got our lunch uh available out in

the uh

lobby area our food trucks are out there

and tracy asia is coming to help wrap up

our morning session here this morning

yes i am don’t forget our workshops our

workshops are from we got two sessions

today from 2 to 2 50 and from 3 10 to 4.

and those you don’t have to sign up you

can just go there the workshops julianne

hartman healing heart trauma

and the us the volunteers will get you

to the room jeremiah class is uh god’s

love brings healing and audrey mack

position yourself in the kingdom of god

to release and receive your healing so

we encourage you to go to those

workshops right now also if anyone is

interested in donna jones she actually

has a table outside and she also has a

book

on amazon as well

we thank you so much and you can are

released for lunch or to come forward

for prayer father we thank you for the

food that has been prepared for our

bodies we thank you that is physical

nourishment it is blessed the hands that

prepared it in jesus name amen