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talking about the coronavirus before I
get into exactly what the scripture says
I just want to put a context to this
because I think this is something that
is not being done some people feel like
this is the worst plague to ever hit the
world and this is taken from the world
World Health Organization’s website that
coronaviruses is a large family of
viruses that cause illness ranging from
the common cold to more severe diseases
such as the Middle East respiratory
syndrome that’s mirrors and the severe
acute respiratory certain drum that SARS
that we had back I think ten years ago
and so anyway this coronavirus Cova 19
is a new strain but it’s really no
different than any of these other
strains the reason it’s caused so much
fear is because it’s new nobody has an
immunity to it and there isn’t any
antidote or any treatment for it and so
that’s what’s causing a lot of the fear
it all comes from animals SARS came from
cats and mirrors came from drama Dori
dromedary camels and so anyway that’s
the background of it and the vast
majority of people I forgot the exact
number but it’s 95 or more percent of
all of the people recover from this some
people even have it with very little
symptoms but it’s specifically hard on
people who have respiratory problems
pre-existing conditions and stuff so
anyway I think that if people would have
just presented this that this is another
strain of like the cold that just
doesn’t nobody has an immunity to it yet
and there isn’t an antidote for it I
might have lessened some people’s fear
about the effects that’s going to have
so again I’m not going to deal with all
of the specific things that people are
doing I’ll make some comments on it but
what I want to deal with
is the fear that has been associated
with this and I’m going to deal with
this in two ways because as an
individual who is standing on the Word
of God and believing God I have
absolutely zero zilch not a fear about
this and I ministered to my staff
yesterday matter of fact you can go on
our website and we have this whole thing
recorded I think I ministered for over
30 minutes on it and we’ve got the whole
thing recorded and you can listen to it
it’s in its entirety but I have zero
fear and let me just give you some of
the scriptures that cause this this is
just a few because there’s a lot of
scriptures but Psalms 46 one through
three says God is our refuge and
strength a very present help in trouble
well I would say that this is a time of
trouble a lot of people are troubled
about this the whole world is troubled
about it says therefore will not we fear
though the earth be removed and though
the mountains be carried into the midst
of the sea though the waters thereof
roar and be troubled though the
mountains shake with the swelling
thereof and then it says Selah the word
Selah means you need to stop and think
about this think about this you aren’t
going to be in fear even if the
mountains were removed you know we got
Pikes Peak out here I’m not sure that
you can see it at this time and I but
Pikes Peak is still there but what would
happen if Pikes Peak and all of the
mountains were removed and cast into the
sea most people would be panicking and
yet this says that if you’re trusting in
the Lord you wouldn’t fear even if the
mountains were removed first John
chapter 4 verse 18 says there is no fear
in love but perfect love casteth out
fear because fear hath torment he that
feareth is not made perfect in love and
I could spend the entire night just
talking about this but you know first on
Galatians chapter 5 verse 6 says faith
works by love if we really understood
the love that God has for us it’s you
it’d have zero fear about this yeah
because God is going to take care of you
and I know we’ve got people watching
this from all over the world from every
different background and because of the
way they advertise
this tonight saying that I was going to
be talking about this coronavirus
situation we may have people that this
is your very first time to watch and you
may come from a totally different
background but I’m telling you the Bible
promises you protection and healing and
I’m going to be getting into some more
of those scriptures but second
Corinthians ekend Timothy chapter 1
verse 7 for God hath not given us the
spirit of fear but of power and of love
and of a sound mind you know anything
that causes you to respond in fear the
very first thing you need to do is get
rid of this fear mm-hmm you need to quit
making any of your decisions that you
make based on fear and I don’t know how
many of you remember but in 2000 when
they were talking about y2k I was
wondering what was gonna happen and they
were predicting the end of the world one
day where but you know people in Russia
they weren’t as hooked on computers as
we are here it was people who were
looking at the worst-case scenario not
thinking about things in any way I went
on record back in 98 and then in 99 real
strongly I stood against this because
the whole thing that people were saying
was all fear-based and I am NOT gonna do
anything based on fear now this doesn’t
mean that because you’re in faith you
don’t use your brain and that you don’t
take practical steps but the things that
we’re being said about y2k and I mean
literally I had a friend that was
preaching that was the beginning of the
Tribulation Period and to go out and buy
you know large stockpiles of food people
are doing that now they even told you to
buy guns he was selling guns in his
church so that if people came after your
food after y2k that you could kill him
in the name of the Lord he’s a preacher
okay and so anyway I stood up against
all of that stuff because God didn’t
give us a spirit of fear yeah so if you
are just fearful and terrified about
this I’m gonna be getting into a lot of
other things and showing you why you
shouldn’t be but I’m just first of all
saying that you should never ever ever
do anything out of fear you never panic
God is going to take care of us
I am gonna survive I don’t care what
happens and I know a lot of people may
disagree with that but that is what
these verses are saying even if this
mountain gets removed and cast into the
sea I’m not gonna be upset about it even
if anything happens God didn’t give me
his spirit of fear in Psalms chapter 91
verse 5 it says thou shalt not be afraid
for the terror by night nor for the
arrow that flies by day nor for the
pestilence that walketh in darkness nor
for the destruction that wasteth at
noonday you know this is specifically
talking about a plague a pestilence and
it says that you don’t have to be afraid
of this why not
because there are provisions and I’m
going to be dealing with that more in
just a second but let me say that I am
NOT saying that we should be ignorant of
what’s going on around us but what is
called news today is not news you know
by the very definition the word news
means something that has already
happened but today I can guarantee if
you have watched the news today if
you’ve been on the internet if you’ve
been on your phone if you’ve been living
and listening to any of these things
they are not only talking about what’s
happening they are talking about what’s
going to happen they are painting the
worst-case scenario and there’s nobody
except somebody who has specifically got
a word from God who can tell you what
the future is going to be like and
especially these ungodly people I think
that this I think that the news cycle
begin to start making
worst-case-scenario out of this because
of political advantage they saw it as an
opportunity to push back against the
current administration and so they
started pushing worst-case-scenario and
saying if we don’t do something right
now that this is going to be devastating
but it was picked up by the news media
and people very few people in this
country are walking in faith and letting
their heart not be troubled and stuff
and so it played into this hysteria and
people have you know embraced this and
have amplified it and there is just a
lot of panic going on yep so
I am not denying that there is a
pandemic I mean the stats show that this
is spreading like wildfire but again did
you know that coals I bet you that this
coronavirus has not outstripped the
number of people that have coals in the
world yet
the flu has already killed many more
people than the coronavirus has now that
again the coronavirus if it continues to
escalate escalate then you know it could
change but I’m saying at this moment the
flu has killed more people this year
have died from the flu than have died I
mean by a huge percentage there’s a
higher number of people that have died
from that so I’m not saying that there’s
not a problem but I do think that in
some ways we’re overreacting so on a
personal level here’s the way that I
respond and that is that I have promises
that no plague is going to come nigh my
dwelling
you know that’s out of psalms chapter 91
and i’m not sure that i’m gonna take
time tonight because i’m gonna break
this up in probably next week i’ll go
into the promises but we’ve already read
a couple of those verses out of Psalms
91 that no pestilence we don’t have to
be afraid of the pestilence and if you
go on down in verses 6 through 10 it
talks about that no plague will come
nigh our dwelling only with our eyes
will we behold and see the reward of the
wicked he’ll give his angels charge over
you and specifically it was talking
about to protect you in the midst of a
plague and so I really believe that on a
personal level I have zero fear that I
can reach out and touch anybody who’s
got sickness or something on him matter
of fact when I was sharing this with my
staff yesterday I actually put up a
picture somebody who is you know looking
like Jesus the way that we imagine Jesus
to be and he was laying hands on
somebody in praying for him but he had
on a surgical mask and can you imagine
that can you imagine Jesus you know not
touching somebody because they were
infectious matter of fact in the eighth
chapter of Matthew
it says in verse one it says when he was
come down from the mountain great
multitudes followed him and behold there
came a leper and worshipped him saying
lord if thou wilt thou canst make me
clean and Jesus put forth his hand and
touched him saying I will be thou clean
and immediately his leprosy was cleansed
and so I can guarantee you right here is
a scriptural example of Jesus reaching
out and touching a leper which was
highly contagious matter of fact a
scripture in the Book of Leviticus even
talked about that a leper could not they
had to isolate themselves exactly what
people are doing today and a leper if he
came out into the public he had to yell
and say unclean and let people know
because they had to keep this distance
between them so it’s the exact same
thing that we are dealing with right now
and yet how did Jesus respond to it
Jesus put forth his hand and touched him
and said I will be thou clean I can
guarantee you we should not be
withdrawing from people out of fear now
there’s a secondary reason that you do
things because we live in a community
and if you know if everybody else is
under this I’m gonna if I can talk
quickly enough I’m gonna deal with this
in more detail from first Corinthians
chapter 8 but first of all you should
have zero fear about you reaching out
and contacting a person because again
Jesus did it Jesus said the works that
we did he did should we do also and I
believe that I am just as protected as
Jesus is instead of having this fear
about everybody contaminating me man I
look at it this way that I’ve got the
supernatural power of God living on the
inside of me and if I come in with
sickness I can reach out and touch them
yes my healing will be transmitted
instead of their sickness amen I tell
you I think this is wrong the way so
many Christians are panicking but we
also live in a community of people and
let me share this with you out of first
Corinthians chapter 8 I believe that
this is a perfect parallel to exactly
what’s happening in our nation and in
our world right now and just four times
like I’m gonna paraphrase as much of
this as I can and just read a few verses
but in the 8th chapter of 1st
Corinthians is where Paul begin to
address people eating meat that had been
sacrificed to idols this was a real
source of contention in the early church
and the logic behind it is that in those
days people had idols they would come
bring them meat offerings and offer it
under the idol and of course the idol
didn’t need it mm-hmm
and so what do you do with the meat
after you’ve offered it well they would
take it and they would sell it in the
marketplace and it was customary that
people would buy this meat but when they
got born again the people who were born
again we’re saying you can’t eat that
meat that’s been sacrificed and unto
idols because it’s now a part of
idolatry you were participating in
idolatry and Paul said that we know that
an idol is nothing and that because the
meat has been placed on this Idol it
didn’t contaminate the meat so
technically speaking there is nothing
wrong with eating this meat that has
been offered unto an idol but then he
says this let me just read this in verse
7 first Corinthians chapter 8 verse 7
howbeit there is not in every man that
knowledge for some with conscience of
the idol unto this hour eat it as a
thing offered into the idol and their
conscience being weak is defiled but
meat commendeth this not to God for
neither if we eat or the we the better
or if we eat not are we the worst again
this is a perfect parallel because see
there are some people like me who know
that no plague is gonna come nigh my
dwelling if a germ touches me it’s gonna
die and I believe that a hundred percent
and so because of that I don’t have any
desire to withdraw from social
gatherings to not contact people
it is a non-issue with me because I am
healed and I am staying healed but there
isn’t in every person that knowledge and
he goes on and talks about this and he
says in verse he says in verse 10 for if
a man see thee which hast knowledge sit
at meat in the idols temple shall not
the conscience of him which is weak be
emboldened to
those things which are offered unto
idols and through thy knowledge shall
the weak brother perish for whom Christ
died but when you sin against the
Brethren and wound their weak conscience
you sin against Christ wherefore if meat
make my brother to offend
I will eat no meat while the world
standeth lest I make my brother to
offend and say this is the same thing I
have zero fear about this I’m not gonna
get sick I don’t believe in getting sick
and some of you think well you can’t
live that way that’s the way I’ve lived
I’ve been sick twice in 50 years and I
could give you reasons but that was
because of stupidity I just depleted
myself and I got a cold but I don’t get
sick I don’t believe in being sick and I
have no fear about it but if I just
impose that like say for instance we
have 500 and I think it’s 42 student
staff right here in Woodland Park and
then we have another hundred and
something scattered around the world and
if because I have no fear about it I
just say we’re keeping everything going
everything is business as usual
everybody come well if everybody was
believing like me I believe we would be
just fine but not everybody is and I’m
not condemning anybody who isn’t because
you know when I first got turned on to
the Lord I didn’t understand healing and
I got sick a long time ago and finances
is an area I wasn’t as strong in
finances as I was in healing and it’s
not because I was a bad person I just
didn’t have a revelation on him so I’m
not trying to condemn anybody and say
that if you believe that you could catch
this virus and become sick that you’re a
bad person that’s not what I’m saying
but I am saying that just like this is
not every man has the knowledge not
every man has developed their faith the
way that mine is and if I just continue
to have all of our meetings and invite
people in we’re gonna have some people
that don’t have any faith whatsoever and
they are just completely susceptible and
they’re gonna bring the virus in we’ve
got other people who will have the
sickness already but they’ll say I’m a
faith person and they’re gonna go and
infect everybody else and god forbid
if I allowed that and some people get
sick and die I would in a sense have
been the one that was responsible
because I was assuming that everybody
was going to operate on my faith so
because of this here’s an application
and then we’re going to try and take
some questions and I’ll go into Psalms
chapter 91 next week and deal a lot more
in this but because of this we cancelled
our men’s advance this last weekend we
with the government officials here says
it’s fine to allow people who are
already here to come and so we had
around four or five hundred maximum with
our students but we had thirteen to
fourteen hundred people that were gonna
come that didn’t come and I didn’t do
that for me but I did that because I
live in a community and not everybody is
where I am and stuff and so I honored
that we’ve now canceled our school
because all of the government has
canceled all of the schools in Colorado
or at least on the Front Range and has
canceled them for two weeks and we had
spring break coming up anyway we had
pictures being made so we’re only two or
three days that we’re cancelling school
other than what we were already doing so
I’m complying to a degree not because
I’m fearful I could go out in the midst
of a hundred thousand people in a hug
every one of them and I’m not gonna get
sick and sometimes you think well I
don’t believe that well that’s the
reason that I canceled other stuff is
because of usual and I have zero fear
but we live in a community and you know
if I was to just violate these things
and then people come to my meetings and
stuff and get sick and it would it would
affect the way the community views me
and just like it said right here it says
for each per neither if you eat are you
the better nor if you don’t eat are you
the worse I believe that if I don’t hold
the meetings and I go along with what
the government is saying I’m not worse
and if I go ahead and hold the meetings
I don’t believe that I’m better than
anybody else this isn’t about me yeah
personally I am
and I have zero problems with it but I
am NOT an individual I not everybody’s
like me I’ve got to learn how to get
along with people so because of that we
are observing the instructions we
haven’t closed our ministry down and of
course Kerry is one of our leaders in
our ministry and she’s been meeting with
people all weekend and we’ve taken some
fairly drastic steps so that people that
can work at home are working at home
we’ve cancelled school we’ve cancelled
some of these things short term not out
of fear but just out of trying to get
along with the rest of the community and
recognizing not everybody believes the
way that we did yeah yeah I like what
you said the other day you said you said
I may not be in the same state of panic
or belief as everybody else but I will
do my part to stop the spread of virus
as much as possible so it doesn’t hit as
many people that don’t have the faith
because they are not operating in faith
the vast majority of people and I hadn’t
got time to say it today I want to take
your questions I know we probably got
some questions here but next week I’ll
try and go into more detail on this but
this has exposed a real weakness in most
people and I’m just going to talk right
now about Christians that most
Christians have not been trusting God
for their healing
they don’t believe these scriptures that
no play will even come nard well and I
mean it’s a promise it says surely he
will deliver thee from the snare of the
Fowler it didn’t say that maybe ours for
some people we have promises that you do
not have to be afraid of any sickness or
any disease and yet I would say the vast
majority of Christians are panicking
close to as much as the unbelievers in a
sense I can understand the unbelievers
but there’s no reasons for Christians to
be operating in the fear that they’re
operating in so at the very least this
has exposed a major problem and I can
guarantee you the bible does prophesy
that in the last days there will be
things happening that they can’t
overcome that 95% of the people don’t
overcome and if we don’t learn how to
appropriate what God’s Word said and
start operating in faith I think that in
the future there’s going to be a
Christian’s hurtin yeah so this is an
opportunity it’s a wake-up call for you
to begin to start receiving these
promises and operating in it amen amen
well we’ve got a number of questions
you’re storing it through as many as
possible tonight so how do we so this is
like I’m gonna ask this from a mini cut
people are asking how do we encourage
non-believers during this time without
sounding obnoxious and so I probably got
half a dozen questions on that that
they’re trying to share with other
people not to be in fear but it how did
they share it so that doesn’t sound
obnoxious well I don’t know that I have
a real good answer to that because
people when they’re in fear they’re
gonna look if you say that I’m not
afraid then they’re immediately gonna
take offense
yeah they’re gonna think that you’re
condemning them so one of the things
that I thought of I was talking to
somebody and I just said you know I’ve
seen my son and my wife raised from the
dead and if you’ve overcome death well
then the coronavirus is not a big deal
so if you have a testimony human and
you’ve been healed of things well then
that would be a good way to approach it
is to say look I’ve been healed of
things worse than this
and I’ve trusted God and he’s healed me
and he could do the same thing for you
and you just use that as an opportunity
and approach it kind of from just your
own personal testimony instead of saying
that you should be believing God you
don’t have to be a fearful of this
that’s good calling it son I’m sorry if
I said your name wrong on YouTube said
can we pray for protection for
unbelievers I believe that you can to a
degree but what they believe is going to
affect them more than what you believe
and so like I even dealt with this very
thought about going in ahead and having
our conferences and me just expressing
my faith and commanding the plague to
not even come in here but and I think
that I could influence and affect people
but if a person was just totally bought
into it and was operating in fear I
can’t totally control you the Lord
didn’t give us
the ability to control other people we
can influence them but they would have
to be in agreement and cooperation
they’d have to submit to me so it it
depends on what they had other persons
believing that’s good
so um three or four questions that have
also been like this but they on Facebook
says what do you think about mass prayer
for repentance of America’s sins that
many ministers are now urging and have
been doing for months and years so
another question that goes along with
that is the second Chronicle 715 that a
number of people have asked about that
that talk about if my people who are
called by name by my name will humble
themselves and repent of their wicked
ways then I will hear from heaven and
forgive their sin and heal their land
does this apply to your claim
verse 14 and I thought you were gonna
make another point 7:14 so does this
apply to the coronavirus this scripture
no I do not believe that this is a
plague from God and I have heard some
people say that but Galatians chapter 3
verse 13 says Christ redeemed us from
the curse of the law there are times in
the Bible that God sent plagues
for instance in Egypt when the children
of Israel came out in second Kings I
believe it’s chapter 19 it talks about
that a hundred and eighty-five thousand
people were slain in one night but you
can’t find a single instance where a
person was smitten with anything in the
Old Testament that it was a blessing it
was always a curse
it was a punishment and Christ redeemed
us from the curse of the law it also
says in John chapter 12 verse 32 that he
drew all of God’s judgment unto himself
so God is not striking people with
leprosy and with things like that today
in the Old Testament he did that Christ
changed all of that and somebody says no
I believe that this is from God well if
you really believe that this is a plague
from God why would you go to the doctor
or take medication and try and get over
it yeah if it’s a judgment from God then
it would be hypocritical on your part to
try and get out of it let God do his
work in you let him you know have the
full effect yeah and of course that’s
crazy
got it anybody who had advocated you
letting this disease run its course
and kill as many people as possible with
no resistance that’s wrong and yet
that’s what that logic would lead to if
you thought God is the one that caused
this and I can also say it this way if
God sends a plague you aren’t going to
be able to have 95% of the people get
over it man I guarantee if God wanted to
plague people he could do it and a
matter of fact in the Book of
Revelations it talks about 1/3 of the
Earth’s population dying because of some
plagues again there’s there’s somewhere
around 4% or 5% of the people who get
this who die and they’re people that
already have pre-existing problems the
average person matter of fact I was
reading today and they said that a lot
of people carry this virus and don’t
even realize it because they have zero
symptoms it’s relatively mild unless
you’ve got a pre-existing problem so
again God is not the one doing this if
God was doing it it would be severe yeah
so char on chat asked this so far many
churches are complying with
recommendations suggested by governments
to cancel large gatherings Andrew
understanding Psalms 91 what will you do
if they impose future restrictions for a
long term that’s a good question you
know in the short term we compensated
for our men’s advance I agreed with what
they said we limited the people coming
but we had live stream and so we’re
using technology to overcome some of
these things and so in the short term I
think I would comply because again the
people I’d say the vast majority of
people would not understand it if I went
ahead and had a meeting because they
don’t they don’t understand that there
are you know that you can be healed and
that God will protect you and so they
would just look at it as total
foolishness and I don’t want to leave
that impression with people so short
term I think I would agree with them but
man long term there there are some real
problems with this and we had a man on
our livestream last night II W Jackson
who
a pastor in Virginia and he pointed out
that the Constitution only gives the
United States government limited powers
to do things that we see today and I
think it was I think it’s appropriate to
tell people we discourage mass
gatherings and stuff but to actually in
a sense impose martial law and shelter
in place I’m not sure that the
Constitution gives that kind of power
and if the government starts imposing
that long term I think that us giving in
to it would not be a good thing I think
it would it could really set up things
that they could just like I read today
that they gave I think it was in New
York they gave the police the authority
to arrest and detain a person if they
look sick and I can understand the logic
behind it but think of this that all you
have to do is just get the people in
control to say well you look sick carry
and whether you are or not they have the
right to arrest you and detain you
without going through proper channels
this could be used to oppress people to
cause all kinds of problems they could
just take anybody who disagreed with
them and a political opponent and arrest
them and we’re treading on some
dangerous stuff right here so I think
long-term
I would resist it and I would defy it
but short term and again I’m not sure
that that’s the proper reaction but
that’s that’s the approach I’m taking
right now is I’m trying to comply and
trying to stop the spread of this thing
but man if it gets so restrictive that
they start violating all of these rights
and liberties I’m like I don’t know I
would tend not to go along it’s
dangerous
yeah so fluffy F on YouTube says this if
I am sick and go to doctor instead of
praying to get healed does this mean I
don’t have faith no there’s multiple
ways that you can be healed
again I hesitate to say this because
some people will try and operate by my
standard and again I’ve been operating
and seeking God in this area for 50 some
and years and I just do not get sick I
don’t believe in being sick and even
like I had a thing on my ear I’m sure
that you saw this and I had people who
were medical people come up and say
you’ve got a melanoma cancer well I
never worried about I didn’t have to
look at it everybody else had to look at
and so I didn’t do anything with it and
it took five to six years but that thing
is completely healed I never went to a
doctor I do not have to go to a doctor
to get healed but not everybody is to
that place and for instance here’s a
good here’s a example a good friend of
mine John Tesh I just did a Facebook
interview with him yesterday and John
Tesh five years ago had terminal cancer
they said that he had I think six months
or short period of time to live and he
got hold of my teaching and he started
operating in faith but he was brand new
at it and he had so much fear associated
that if he didn’t take the doctors
treatment he had surgery and then
massive chemotherapy and stuff and if he
didn’t take it he just had so much fear
that he told me yesterday he would not
be alive today but after two years or
three years or whatever it was that
cancer came back and they wanted to go
do more surgery and then they wanted to
do what he called carpet-bombing
you know in his pelvic area that would
have totally made him sterile it would
have caused valve problems and on and on
and by that time he had built himself to
a place that he says I’m not gonna do
that I don’t need to do that because God
is gonna heal me and he refused to go
back to the doctor and take their
treatments and it’s now been I’m not
sure over a year maybe two years
he’s completely cancer-free he’s totally
healthy and his own evaluation of it he
says five years ago I wasn’t there now I
am there so it really depends on where
you are you don’t have to go to a doctor
but it’s not necessarily unbelief you
just you know it’s wherever you are I
have people all the time say you know I
pray for them so should I go to the
doctor should I
throw away my medicine and I said I
can’t tell you because I don’t know
where your faith is that’s what the Holy
Spirit is giving you for and it says let
the peace of God rule in your heart so
if you don’t have peace and if you don’t
have confidence standing in believing
God well then I’d say probably you need
to go to the doctor I’m not against
doctors if it wasn’t for doctors all the
Christians would be dead because they
have not been believing God but I do
believe that God’s ability to heal and
preserve is beyond the doctors that’s
good
that’s awesome so ruthian chat message
Isis she said is preparing to be
quarantined such as gathering food and
other products foolish or would you
think it would be wise like how Joseph
prepared for the seven years of famine
well the same thing came up during the
y2k thing and people were buying years
worth of supply now that was foolish I
don’t think that that’s wisdom at all
this is not the same thing as Joseph
went through this wasn’t revealed to a
godly man this is all being done out of
fear and I think that people buying you
know cases of things that you would not
use in months I think that that’s
totally fear based my wife went to the
store today because we needed something
to eat but I guarantee you she didn’t
buy a month’s worth or two months worth
of stuff she bought some stuff so that
we could eat so I think that you just go
about your normal stuff and buy normal
amounts the people who are buying
excessive amounts because they’re
motivated out of fear are actually
causing hardships on other people and
that’s that’s actually selfish mm-hmm I
think that I think you ought to just
operate normally
you know maybe buy you an extra two or
three cans of soup in case things do get
bad you could live off of soup for a
while hoard and stockpile stuff I think
it’s fear-based and you don’t need to do
that yeah okay Rachel and Facebook says
what are your thoughts about all the
churches closing during this time
well I’m divided on that that’s similar
to a previous question we and I’m
divided because men at all times this is
when we
need to be reaching out and we need the
spiritual input from church a good
pastor friend of mine Pastor Mark coward
he pastors a church for all nations in
Colorado Springs and he also directs our
truth and liberty and our business our
practical government school but anyway
he normally has one or two people a week
that get born again Sunday he preached
and he was countering this fear and he
had 45 people get born again oh well and
so I think that’s awesome that’s some
mean so we need to be getting together
and I am really hesitant to say that you
should cancel your services but again
not everybody that’s going to come to
those services is operating in faith and
I can just guarantee you they are gonna
spread some germs and so I think that
short term if I was pastoring the church
which I’m not but short term I might do
something but I certainly we’ve got a
governor here in Colorado who’s openly
homosexual and he has just told all
churches to cancel and to quit their
meetings and stuff and I think he’s got
an agenda for saying so I don’t and if
they were to extend this just for a long
period of time thinking well man this
will be great this will really do
churches a lot of damage I’m not sure
I’d comply with that so again I can’t I
can’t just say it depends on where the
pastor of the church where those people
are at I don’t know you’d have to pray
and let the Holy Ghost lead you that’s
good
Mandy on chat says I don’t have fear
about myself getting sick but I’m
nervous for my kids who are younger and
my elderly father and family members do
you have Bible verses to pray and
declare over loved ones
absolutely in that Psalms chapter 91 I
think I’ll teach on that next week but
but again this is exactly the dilemma
that I find myself in I have no fear
about me but do i impose my faith on
other people and they go along because
they want to be in faith but they really
aren’t you need to take precautions you
know a week ago Sunday I was at church
and there was a guy sitting in front of
me who is obviously sick he looked bad
he was coughing he was sneezing and
everything and I thought about this and
I thought you know what would Jesus put
on a mask with Jesus not minister to him
because he could get sick and I said
nope so anyway I ministered to the guy I
shook hands with him I laid my hands on
him and pray it over him and his hands
were sweaty so he was transmitting
whatever he had and I prayed for him in
faith and then I went wash my hands
sothere’s I don’t think it’s all just
being spiritual and and foolish at the
same time you can you can you know wash
your hands and take some precautions and
the elderly people in your family and
stuff like that I don’t think it’s wrong
to take some precautions but it is wrong
to operate in fear yeah I know one
minister said you know he gives us we
can resist fear you know we can rebuke
fear but he’s also giving us power love
and a sound mind and so there’s just
just dynamics of just using the wisdom
not being in fear but then also using
wisdom just as we would in everyday
normal life we should use wisdom if kids
are real young I think you can pray for
them because you have a tremendous
amount of authority over them but the
older they get the more independent they
get and if that child say for instance
is a teenager and thinks that you’re the
weirdest most fanatical Christian that
ever was and rejects everything you say
I think you probably ought to have them
take every precaution they can because
they may not be submitted to your
authority and I’ll say for my family
what we’ve done is the kids you know
they were at school and so they’re
hearing about coronavirus so anytime
somebody got sick mom someone has the
coronavirus and so we just started
sitting down and talking about you know
start talking about John G Lake about
any germ when it touched his body it
died the kids were like dad’s awesome
they just got so excited it was really
interesting because I was in the car and
I was actually singing a song that I
learned in pastor Lossless church when I
was growing up about fear not for I am
with you says the Lord so I was singing
this you know to the kids right and
they’re like oh well we know a different
version and they started singing this
fear not song that they’ve been learning
at school man that’s awesome and then
all of a sudden my six-year-old son just
breaks out and he says this he said even
though you walk through the valley of
shadow does
I will fear no evil for him I am with
you says the Lord my rod and my staff
they comfort you he just started quoting
Psalms 23 because he learned it in first
grade and he in kindergarten and it just
came up and he started teaching me I
think you can trust that your prayers
will work yes teacher teach your kids
the word and let that be issued this
could be a great opportunity for you to
teach amen
and and deal with these exact same
things that we’ve been doing well yeah
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