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the art of life is to make sure

that you don’t get out of trouble

and be left with trauma

because trouble has an expiration date

but trauma can last for 30 years

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and so i had sat on a plane

for about 12 hours

left the beautiful city of dallas

flew to london

got out in heathrow

walked the corridors made the change

and then flew another nine or ten hours

to lagos nigeria

and then by car i traveled out somewhere

i had never been before

to speak to over a million people

i was in the hotel getting ready for the

event

pastor adeboye had invited me to

one of the biggest meetings he does

during the year

he’s huge all over the world but in

africa

it’s unexplainable

and i was getting ready to go

when i got a call

the phone rang

my son jamar had had a heart attack

and the doctors were trying to stabilize

him

and while they were telling me about it

he’d had a second one

and the airport was shut down for the

evening

and we had to pull all kind of strings

to get out of there

and i never got to preach to the crowd

one because

under battle you always have to keep

your priorities straight

don’t let the seduction of the crowd or

the allurement of the masses

make you forget about the commitment to

the few

jamar was my son

and i had to be there

and i wondered lord how in the world

could this be

happening had rushed him into surgery

and it didn’t look good

and i said this is a 20-something year

old young man

who’s vibrant healthy in good shape not

overweight

how could this happen

you we we want to understand

everything

but we don’t

so i flew for hours and hours and all

the while i stayed awake the whole time

saying god spare my son

because i don’t want to know the pain of

losing my child

and we want to understand why

and i got to the hospital i came down

the hall and he’s laying in the hospital

bed and he said i hear my daddy coming

and i walked in the room

i shaved his chest

i talked to him

i tried to get him ready for this this

surgery they were going to do

because they had to try to figure out

where this was coming from and the first

one hadn’t proven it

and i wanted answers and i learned

something

you don’t get answers because you want

them

that god doesn’t explain himself

for that matter the doctors don’t

explain themselves

i would’ve took an answer from anybody

they weren’t explaining much because

they weren’t sure why he had the heart

attack they couldn’t give me answers and

when i prayed and asked god why did i

have to go through this he chose to be

silent and the real issue becomes can

you trust god

when he doesn’t answer

because we want answers and we’re raised

in school to seek answers and then if

you get the answer right we reward you

and it makes us think that there’s an

answer

but sometimes life hands you stuff where

there is

no answer

now he recovered

and i’m happy about that he really

recovered but my point in talking to you

about seeking answers is that it’s a

dangerous thing

to seek answers

while you’re suffering that’s like

trying to diagnose a storm in the middle

of a tsunami

you have to get to the other side of it

and look back at it and see it in

retrospect because if you ask too many

questions at the wrong time you’re not

going to come up with healthy answers or

no answers at all

and the frustration becomes a

distraction because what difference does

it make why

you’re still dealing with what

and if you’re dealing with what you

can’t worry about why

so you’re dealing with what and

surviving what must take preeminence

over understanding why

i grew up in a little baptist church in

the hills of west virginia on the

mountain top and we used to sing an old

song we are tossed and driven

on the mighty seas of time

summer times and summer tempest off

succeed a bright sunshine in the land of

perfect day when the mists have rolled

away

we will understand it better

by and by

sometimes you have to realize

that you have to settle

to walk in the dark

to walk by faith and not by sight

to not

ask god to appeal to your intellect

because when you ask god to appeal to

your intellect you ask him to come down

to your level

when his thoughts are above your

thoughts and his ways are above your

ways he has to come down to your level

to explain himself and sometimes god is

not interested in your intellect he is

interested in your obedience

do you hear what i’m saying to you

because obedience is proven best when

you don’t understand

if i tell my child clean up the room you

don’t get to ask me why

i don’t have to explain to you we got

company coming over and we got this no

no no i said clean the room obedience is

better than sacrifice obedience is

better than understanding and god is

trying to teach us to obey him and to

trust in the fact get this that pruning

is not punishment

that you are not cursed because you had

a bad day

that god is not punishing you just

because you’re going through suffering

they feel the same but they’re not the

same the intention is quite different

between pruning and punishment

pruning is the reward of having

something of value

it’s how god lets you know that you’re

valuable he he wouldn’t prune you if you

were a dying bush

nobody prunes a dying bush

he prunes you because you’re fruitful

but pruning feels like punishment and if

you’re not careful you will feel like

you’re punished and if you will by that

you’re punished then you will believe

that you’re cursed

god doesn’t cut to kill us

he cuts to heal us

i had to trust god when they cut in my

back four inches

and operated on my back and i had to

learn how to walk again

i had to trust god as i preached on

sunday mornings and couldn’t walk

i went to washington dc and preached i

had to lay on the floor in the back of

the church

the pain was so great

and then when they got ready to

introduce me i came out

and i preached because when the

anointing was on me and the spirit

started moving and the energy got up it

was like i had no pain i only made one

mistake i sat down after i got through

preaching instead of leaving and when i

sat down i couldn’t get up and there in

front of everybody they they had to help

me up out of my seat the one who

preached

power and anointing and glory couldn’t

get out of his chair

and this oxamoron between strength and

weakness between victory

and being paralyzed

it’s the human experience

truth and trust

hold hands they hang out together we

need both to see the the crushing from

god’s divine perspective

we have to look at it from god’s

perspective to avoid our limited view

we cannot see what god can see

we can see to the corner but god can see

around the corner

and if you just trust him

when all hell is breaking loose

if you trust him with tears running down

your face

if you trust him through a bad season

and a storm and i and it’s okay to be

scared you can have fear and faith at

the same time

i was afraid for my son and yet i had

faith for my son

you can have fear and faith at the same

time

jesus said which of you if your son asks

for bread will give him a stone or if he

asks for a fish would you give him a

snake if you then through all of your

evil ways know how to give good gifts to

your children how much more will the

father

give what you need

to his children

god knows what you need

even when you don’t

like what you need

that is crushing

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my brother and i decided to go into

business this was like when i was in

west virginia was years ago and it was

always our dream to have a family

business because my father had a family

business so we decided to go into

business together and we opened up a

windows and siding company and we were

going to do windows inside and i didn’t

know anything about windows society but

i learned pretty quickly i knew

something about business and we were

doing okay and west virginia gets cold

you need windows and you need siding and

we were selling and we hit a tough spot

because you do that in business you you

run out of capital you run out of

resources you got to pay your staff you

got to make your payroll you got to pay

for your building you got to pay for

your materials you have to do all of

that kind of stuff and my brother who is

my older brother and could always talk

me into anything including letting him

cut my hair when he didn’t know how to

cut here

he could talk me into anything he talked

me into putting up my car as collateral

to get a loan to sustain the business

and it was kind of like the haircut

when i looked in the mirror i found out

he couldn’t cut hair and when we got

through struggling in business i found

out i didn’t have a car

i literally sat in the living room

looking through the window as they drove

my car away

this is after going through a long

period of being without a car

and i needed a car because i had two

kids

and i thought to myself why

me

why me

i serve you i’m preaching

i’m working i’m laboring i’m loving i’m

trying to take care of this family why

me

and when i finally got an answer back

the answer was why

not me

why not you

what exempts you from suffering

if jesus went to the cross

if paul got locked up in jail

if joseph got thrown into a pit

if the woman was there with the issue of

blood why

not me

so when you face a dilemma and you run

into a crisis and you’re trying to

figure out what in the world is going on

in my life and it feels like you’re

going backwards instead of forward and

you trusted the wrong person or you made

the wrong decision or the business

didn’t turn out like you think and you

have a setback you have to remember a

setback is a set up for a comeback

that’s right

and you can’t go into the valley of

despair and throw yourself a pity party

and and luxuriate in the pain

of your own self-indulgence

and ask god why you

when god spared not his son why would he

spare you

the question is never why me it’s why

not me

i remember our ministry was thriving and

then in 2008 the economy collapsed

i had to lay off 40 people

i thought why me lord

he said why not you

other people are going through the same

thing why not you the lord was teaching

me how to lead

how to make decisions how to make tough

choices anybody can make easy choices as

a leader but in order to make tough

choices and have the spine and the guts

to be able to make a tough choice that

people don’t like and they’re murmuring

about it and they’re complaining about

it but it was necessary to do it and it

failed my lot to be able to make those

kinds of choices

why me

why not me

to him whom much is given

much is required

you can’t have the much given

and then avoid the much required

you have to make the tough decisions and

sometimes they are not popular it’s not

popular but it’s purposeful

and in the midst of seeking god’s

purpose you have to understand

that he has a plan for your life

trouble comes to us all

but what i’m glad about is that trouble

doesn’t last always

trouble doesn’t last

always

the art of life is to make sure

that you don’t get out of trouble

and be left with trauma

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because trouble has an expiration date

but trauma can last for 30 years

i didn’t write crushing just to get you

out of trouble

i wrote crushing to get you out of

trauma

the residue that holds on to you

that threatens to ruin your future

with the incidents from your past

the wind is high the thunder

is roaring the lightning is flashing

and the boat is shaking like something

you have never seen

before and the apostle paul is aboard

the ship with all of the passengers it’s

really a cargo ship and he’s headed

to rome

he thinks

but the storm gets worse and worse and

worse and many in desperation and in

fear they want to get out of the boat

because it’s gotten rough

but paul says save you abide in the ship

you shall not survive when it gets rough

we all want to jump ship

when it gets tough we want to get out of

it we we want to get out of it so to

stop hurting

but the ship was the solution to the

problem

and i know i know i know i know i hear

you saying to me oh bishop you must not

know your bible very well because the

ship fell apart

yes the ship fell apart but the people

didn’t

because some on boards and some unbroken

pieces made it safely to the other side

and had they gotten out of the ship

there wouldn’t have been a board to hold

on to

so we have to make a decision every day

do you stay in the process and submit to

the pruning

or do you jump ship

for your own comfort

only to fall into peril

even jesus had this choice

he taught a lesson that opposed many the

true meaning of the bread and the wine

many followers left

they were pruned from jesus because he

said unless you drink my blood and eat

my flesh you’ll have no part with me and

that was not a sermon they wanted to

hear and they wanted to avoid the

process not even understanding what he

meant

and then he asked peter

will you go away also

or will you stay in the process

and peter responds where shall i go in

your hands are the words of eternal life

for some of us quitting is not an option

we may cry we may why we may groan we

may fuss we may bicker

but we cannot jump ship

we must stay in the process what will

you choose to do when your ship is

tossed to and fro and the lightning is

flashing and the sky goes black and the

wind is high and you’re not sure what

the next turn is going to bring

when people are seasick and falling

apart and men are screaming and women

are in prayer will

you stay on board the boat

or will you jump off and go for

something that seems like it might be

better but could kill you

how you respond to trouble determines

your outcome

to embrace the sorrow of the season and

to trust god to bring you out of it is

what faith is made of

you cannot be comfortable and be

christ-like

in order to be christ-like he always

always calls you out of your comfort

zone

and when you say yes

i will stand

even though the boat is falling apart

there’s more power in the chips

than there is in my disobedience

looking at my life you can tell the

choice i made

i’m 45 years into ministry

i’m 39 years into marriage

i am not the kind of guy

that walks away from a fight

and i challenge you

today if you’re gonna make anything less

you gotta stay when it’s rough

and when it’s tough

and work together as a team

to make it better

i realize you can’t be married by

yourself it takes two to do that

but in every area where your decision

makes the difference

you’ll never be successful if you quit

don’t jump ship

stay in the process at tbn our mission

is to use every available means to reach

as many individuals and families as

possible with the life-changing gospel

of jesus christ thank you for helping

make

the gospel of grace go around the world

without you we couldn’t do it god bless

you

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