Did you know Priscilla’s sister and two brothers all serve in ministry, too? When your dad is Dr. Tony Evans, one of the nation’s most respected evangelical leaders, though, are you really surprised? Chrystal Hurst, Priscilla’s sister, is a writer, speaker, and worship leader that has learned a thing or two about how to love your life even when it’s not easy. Her new book dives into how to rescue that girl inside you that you thought you lost. Anthony Evans is one of Christian Music’s premiere male vocalists and songwriters, and worship leaders. He leads worship for Priscilla Shirer Live, The Fervent Tour, and other leading Christian events. Jonathan Evans, former NFL fullback, is now a mentor, author, and speaker serving alongside his father in the local church and with the national ministry.

have you ever had a conversation with

somebody and you’re excited about the

conversation but you’re also a little

nervous at the same time because that

person knows you I mean like for real

really knows you and you know they know

all your business you know all their

business so you’re not exactly sure how

the conversation is gonna go this is

going to be one of those conversations

because I’m talking to my siblings today

members of my own family it’s going to

be a good one

so stay tuned

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I’ve been waiting on this one looking so

forward to talking to a few people that

have known reasons you know I was born

I’ve known them since they were born you

know we’ve just had lots of lots of

years together together lots of history

lots of memories and we’re looking

toward the future now as adults I’m

talking about my brothers and my sister

we’re gonna be talking to them over the

next hour but first I just wanted to

spend a little time with my older sister

all by herself just so I can you know

put the spotlight on her just a little

bit because for most of my life I’ve

been under her shadow

cuz she’s my older sister she’s my sweet

older sister and I can’t wait to

introduce you to her would you please

help me to welcome Krystal Hurst to the

program

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my sister okay let’s clear it up mm you

are my older sister but that’s not what

everybody thinks that is not what

everybody thinks what’s up with that

what do most people think they think I’m

younger why do you think that is is it

because I’m more mature no why do you

think it is that people think I’m older

than you I think there’s a lot of

reasons I think one of them is because

you seem to have a more outgoing

personality so they just figure maybe

I’m the one that grew up kind of in your

shadow maybe I don’t know I think that’s

one reason I don’t I don’t know yeah

that better be the only yeah that’s it

the reality is though Chris all my

siblings and I we are three years apart

almost literally so you’re three years

older than I that I’m second and my two

brothers who will talk to just a little

bit later on they’re just kind of

stair-step right after us but you came

first named crystal because she was the

crystal the light in everyone’s eyes yes

in the family the first grandchild

on either side of the family so there

was crystal and you just lit up

everybody’s life and I did really grow

up in your shadow quite a bit because

you’re quite an achiever that’s your

personality yes to the firstborn typical

firstborn so it just kind of described

yourself as a young person if you tell

me that the perfect score is a hundred

and it’s possible for me to get extra

credit I’m gonna get the extra credit

she made it so easy for you to come

behind me in school I’m sure no I would

study y’all I would study and study and

I might pull off at 88

I might get and crystal would kind of

not really think about it and make the

105 so she wouldn’t mess up the curve

for everybody not just in a class but in

our house because then mom and dad were

like well where’s your hundred because

Chrissy got a hundred yeah yeah it’s

okay

you were also extremely have always been

you still are extremely beautiful so I

spent my life sort of just kind of

looking up to you and wanting to be

crystal Evans at the time

crystal heavens yeah you have quite a

story actually you have quite a story

and it’s been one that has been it

really has sort of kind of become the

trajectory of your life in terms of

ministry in terms of what you’re doing

with in connection with with other women

right now and really pouring into their

lives so I just sort of tell us a little

bit about you and what parts of your

life have sort of made up the journey of

your life which you’ve chronicled in

she’s still there returning to the girl

in you so sort of just give us some

backstory on crystal Evans

so basically I just was the typical good

girl and I actually wanted to be but in

high school there was a guy that went to

our church and over some time he was

interested in me I wasn’t interested in

him but after a while it was kind of

like we were friends and he kind of got

grafted into our family too and when we

went off to school he had a football

scholarship and I had an academic

scholarship and we wound up at the same

school so my freshman year I got

pregnant and so that whole good girl

thing was just really it was a shock to

everybody it was a shock to me too

because that wasn’t you always hear the

thing about preachers kids being the

ones that are always in trouble and I

wasn’t but by the way were preachers

kids they didn’t know that yeah so

that’s that and so that was 19 I had my

oldest child my sophomore the fall of my

sophomore year and then spent the next

ten years of my life I graduated from

college went into the workforce as a

single mom

my husband and I now together we have

five children and but that season of my

life the season of my life where I was

making decisions that were not in

character for me also that were not

necessarily with full intentionality or

consciousness about how I was impacting

or hurting other people the season of my

life or even after making the decision

to keep my daughter going into those ten

years as a single parent and struggling

through trying to achieve trying to have

a job and do well and make money and

make a life but wanting to also yank my

hair out because it was really hard that

whole season of my life where I where I

can vividly recall just thinking you’ve

got to be kidding me

is this is this my life because this

certainly wasn’t what I had intended or

aimed for but Here I am trying to make

the best of it and say let’s back up

just a little bit because I want to ask

you when you’re 19 and you’ve got you’ve

got this baby coming and you happen to

be in the pocket of family that you’re

in so it was a it’s it’s a little bit of

a not that it’s any more unique in one

family than another but you’ve got mom

and dad who were pastoring this church

and they’re their reach is sort of broad

and wide what would you say that mom and

dad did well and what would you say that

maybe even they would admit they didn’t

do as well as maybe they should have

they do it differently now what do I

think they did well I think they were

very supportive my dad said well you’ll

still be able to climb the ladder you’re

just gonna have to climb with a backpack

I mean it was just kind of like it

doesn’t ruin your life a baby born a

baby Jorn you know or a Maya rap you

know there’s all kind of wraps when you

have babies but anyway but but it was

just the idea that you can keep going

there’s never a question about can you

keep going or is your life gonna be okay

it was it’ll be okay he’s got to find

another way yeah I mean also they let us

be we were so excited do you remember

I remember the day that we found out

that you’re gonna have a baby and I

remember right after we kind of had this

family conversation yeah you were like

we went back crystal and I shared a room

our whole upbringing olai so we went

into our room and I remember just

looking at your stomach like there’s a

sweet niece or nephew in there I could

not wait and then Karras was born and

Karras has been she is 26 96 she’s 26

she is now having her second child so

crystal is is it is a meemaw

stop it Karras is now on daughter yes

you have a granddaughter and a grandson

a grandson or daughter that’s coming

soon yeah and it’s just it’s so exciting

because here you are sitting on this

side of it you know this end of all of

those years of like you said it was just

hard just hard but now you’re getting to

just enjoy some of the fruit of all of

that hardship in all of us a favor but I

kind of cut you off because you said mom

and dad did that part well and I was

just saying they also let us enjoy it

like we just enjoyed that baby as a

family yeah she’s like our sister

actually I know she’s the she’s the

fifth child of the for Evans kids I know

and we keep trying to remind her that

she’s not who are not I know yeah you

can’t tell her and you know I know it’s

okay so what do you think mom and dad

cuz I’m thinking about parents who might

be in this situation right now

mm-hmm so they did that well what do you

think that then maybe they would have

done differently if they had a chance to

do it again in response a reaction to

the baby coming I mean when you asked me

that I was I have to tackle the other

one first because I don’t know don’t

know I don’t know I don’t know what they

wish they would have done differently

I do remember that my dad asked me or

our dad asked me is there something we

did wrong I do remember he asked me that

because I’m thinking they were trying to

figure out like how did this how did

this and I honestly told him I said I’d

you know nothing yeah I don’t you know I

think and I always say this Adam and Eve

had the perfect parent and they messed

up so we have to we do what we can and

then we have to know that just like we

get to choose so do our kids yeah that’s

scary isn’t it but it is scary yeah

because you I was talking to some

friends of mine the older couple their

kids are now in their upper 20s and I

mean y’all they just raised their kids

as best as they possibly could

rooted in the church at all the right

youth group over their house devotions

at the table you know two-parent home

all the stuff that textbook looks great

yeah and both of her children right now

we’re just breaking her heart

they have just chosen lifestyles that

are so completely out of alignment with

the way that they poured their life into

raising them she just she was just

talking to me about just how heartbroken

she is devastated it’s devastating

because you pour your life into doing it

the right way but still your kid has to

make their own choices you know yeah I

mean I mean he’s a sidebar I had a

conversation with my daughter and looked

her in the face and said this is this is

all of the hard things that I’ve done

all of the hard places where I’ve done

my best to love you and raise you well

you need to understand that it is

killing me to see how you’re choosing to

live your life we had at one of those

hard conversations but I say but you

know what I realize it’s your life I’m

here to love you I’m here to pray for

you I’m here to give you guidance but at

the end of the day you need to know that

I know that these are your choices and I

think we have to kind of love people

love our children but take ourselves off

the hook a little bit because as much as

it hurts you can’t fix it

mm you know release them but you can’t

yep

yeah you just have to yep release until

the Lord okay so you got this you got

this baby sophomore year of college and

you went back to school right cuz it

never occurred to me not to it never

because of you or because you’re just an

achiever well but you know people said

so are your parents gonna keep the baby

and I was like why would they do that

it’s my baby like I don’t know it never

occurred to me I don’t know it just

didn’t so I just figured it out so

you’re in college full time yes and you

have a baby yes and then you’ve got

these 10 years as a single parent if you

graduated you’ve got all these years as

a single parent you’re working okay talk

to us about that because really the the

point of she’s still there when you’re

driving down the freeway

lord please break my legs both of them

so I can be in the hospital long enough

to take a break from work and figure out

my life and listen y’all are laughing

but I remember that day yes when my

sister literally was driving down the

road and this was like Lord oh if I just

take me out for a hot just an accident

don’t kill me don’t kill the car don’t

blow up the car mark up my face so mark

up my peg yeah I mean come on y’all how

many of you have ever had that day Lord

just take me out for a little while I

just need a break

I just need a break so talk so just

describe those 10 years as a single

parent and you had supportive family but

still yeah you’re the one pulling the

weight so talk to subscribers I think

anytime you end up in a place where

you’re doing it a way you didn’t

envision you ask yourself the question

how did I get here and and and how do I

fix this

yeah and when you don’t see a way to fix

it you can you feel stuck nobody wants

to feel stuck yeah so I did I felt stuck

because I have to work cuz I’m a single

parent I can’t you know I can’t just

decide I’m gonna take a year and find my

life that didn’t work that way

yeah there was an account financed it

was an accounting okay so you had an

accounting kind of job a number punching

job and I still loved numbers I didn’t

like that job yeah well I remember you

had to be there at like 7:00 in the

morning or something yeah and then it

was a really really late you’ve got

school work with Karras and so your life

was just crowded on all sides mm-hmm and

this is for year after year after yeah

and I was just trying to figure out how

to hit the reset button in fact I’d said

I’m gonna work for five years I’m gonna

get vested and then I’m gonna you know

Bank all of my retirement stuff and I’m

gonna get on a plane I’m gonna go to

London we have an aunt who lives in

London and I wasn’t gonna work at

Starbucks until I figure out my next

step like I had it all planned out it’s

like I’m gonna take a break and live

with somebody so I can and I never got

there I met my husband before I did that

but the but the point is I was trying to

figure out of London I was gonna go to

London you did not tell me about the

plan to go to London London with you

yeah well I didn’t make it I didn’t make

it I just I’m just mad right now that

you planned a trip to London without me

well I didn’t plan it you did plan it

you were saving money I was yes but I

gotten them yet she was about to skip

town without her sister a little bit

okay so yeah so I I spent a lot of time

and energy trying to figure out what’s

next I literally the first job that I

had I quit it with no job and I worked

him because I was like I can’t yeah if

I’m wishing myself into a hospital this

is not healthy yeah so I quit that in

work temp then found another job making

a lot less money but I had peace and

then I went from there into another job

that that I worked out until I until I

later decided to stay home with kids

okay and in the midst of all that yes

you lost yourself like crystal is gone

there’s no time for crystal there’s no

bargain yeah your health yeah your goals

the ambitions that yeah you kind of

putting stuff on the side cuz you got to

just do the thing that’s in front of you

to do today so you’re forgetting the

girl in you like she’s you’re wondering

where she is where’s that 18 year old

girl that had dreams and aspirations and

was you know pointed towards specific

tasks you’ve kind of lose and losing her

along the way and it wasn’t just this

single parent situation because then you

got married mm-hmm you got married to a

wonderful guy named Jesse that you’ve

been married to now for 17 years almost

okay 17 years but those 17 years haven’t

just been you know I gotta change

diapers and make dinner and like you

like to say chicken a million different

ways how can I cook it again tonight

Lord yes they don’t know about your

other children so after you guys got

married we okay so we each brought a

girl to our wedding and gave each other

the gift of a girl on a wedding day then

we added three boys after that yes so

there’s his mine and ours and so I still

have a nine year old at home so there’s

14 12 and 9 at home yes in a home school

and there’s that

so this is just so y’all are clear on

this achievement situation in her life

crystal is the kind of mom that when she

had babies you know she didn’t buy them

the the organic Gerber option off the

shelf because she was gonna puree all of

their baby food from scratch that’s just

the way she wanted she’s the kind of mom

who doesn’t want to go to a hospital to

have the baby just in case there is a

more natural shaking utilized so she’s

had all three of her while all of her

four children four pregnancies she’s had

them all without an epidural which I

don’t understand that at all but then

three of them she had at home so home

burst so she did that which is switches

awesome

praise the Lord but just that’s you just

kind of if you tell me there’s a hundred

yes I’m gonna try to get to 105 you’re

gonna try to get to 105 okay but that

has taken its toll in the sense that you

kind of lost yourself along the way tell

us what that look yeah and I think for

for I don’t even think you have to be

wired like that I think life is like

that regardless of your design if you’re

not careful you get lost

in doing you get lost in being for other

people you get lost in doing what you

thought you wanted to do and then

realize 15 years later actually time is

passing this is not what I wanted to do

even the things that you really want to

do means you have to put other things on

the Shelf so for me choosing to be at

home with children during that season I

wanted to do that that didn’t mean that

I didn’t look up and see friends or

family members and go well that’d be

nice if I could do that that didn’t mean

I didn’t have those feelings it didn’t

mean that I had to you know I didn’t I

mean I used to tell my husband this is

this is the truth and I love Jesus this

is true but this is the reality when I

looked at my husband has said I need a

bible study this is what I was really

thinking I need a break from y’all and

if I have to use Jesus and a Bible study

to do it

Soviet cuz really not same I love Jesus

but really what I loved the most was

going to Starbucks after the Bible study

and getting a drink with it with extra

room for whipped cream enjoyed it by

myself yeah that was what that was about

so I just needed space and time to be by

myself yes and so even in the season

where I wanted to be with my children I

still was craving time for me yeah so I

think we just have to I had to and I

think all of us girls at some point we

asked that question how did I get here

and what do I do to shift it and so this

is just kind of my my offering ok so but

what point and what was the catalyst to

you kind of looking up one day and going

wait a minute I have lost myself I’m

gonna go find her where is she what was

the catalyst that made you sort of wake

up out of that slumber of realizing ok

it’s really two questions I want to ask

that question but I also want to ask

what parts of you slipped enough that

you were just tired of watching them

sort of fritter away and you wanted to

kind of get the reins on those things

again in your life well this happens all

the time it happened it happens all the

time so it’s there’s multiple one was

not having the job you know hating the

job and another time it was babies and I

remember the night that the kid took off

the diaper and I had to clean up the

carpet god save me please there have

been other I mean looking in the mirror

and going where who is that you oh

you’re just covered up with fat I fear

now you know that’s a moment having

moments where it just even even now like

I life is totally different my kids are

older I’m able to do a few things but I

still sometimes have to sit down and say

I’ve got to carve out some time to

breathe in a minute to breathe yeah and

to communicate that to my husband and

kids and say I love y’all but I need a

minute yeah give me a minute I’m in the

bathroom leave me alone

this is holy ground in here stop

knocking on the door I’ll be out in a

minute you know what I mean it is just

little things it could just be that the

day has been crazy and so as I’m cooking

dinner I turn on music I want to hear

until everybody else to be quiet I just

need I just need a minute to enjoy this

part of my day yeah

so it comes and it comes it comes but I

think what I’ve learned is that when you

when you realize that you have a need

that it’s okay to meet it it’s it’s okay

to say I want to honor the people in my

life but there’s a gift in me God gave

me the gift of life and I want to honor

the gift that he’s given me by honoring

me and how can I have anything to pour

out in other people in ministry at work

in my neighborhood in my community if

I’m not taking the time to honor me okay

give us some more practical examples cuz

I think this is very helpful for women

that are either saying I don’t see where

I have the time yeah or number two I

don’t have a supportive environment like

my husband doesn’t care that I want to

honor the little girl in me he’s not

going to support that hour that I need

away from home he’s I don’t live in a

place where where I’ve got people

applauding that mm-hmm so how what are

some practical ways that that we can do

that when life is so full and maybe our

environment is not supportive so just

being super super creative so like I

miss time with friends and I would say

because I really didn’t have my husband

at one point traveled a lot so I was

with the kids a lot by myself and at one

point my daughter was old enough to at

least my home to be safe if I wasn’t

there and some of our girlfriends I was

like I’m dying for some time with y’all

but I can’t do it between here and here

but I can meet you at 5:00 a.m. at the

Waffle House like will you meet me at

5:00 a.m. at the Waffle House your kids

are asleep my kids are asleep let’s look

at each other and have a conversation

again

just having putting my kids to bed that

was a thing watching the movies that I

want to watch with with my kids but

saying y’all go stab and watch this

movie with me or go to bed or go to bed

but y’all have to be

quiet but this was me getting in me so

just finding these you know these

reactive ways I didn’t save this because

this is so great this is what I’m

basically hearing you say they are not

the parent no I am so you get to decide

this is the music that feeds me it

doesn’t really matter us you guys like

the music right now this is my time to

listen to this music so we’re watching

this movie as a family you’re the parent

DirecTV has a great classical channel

and I could care less whether y’all

enjoy this or not I enjoy it and the

China like my my my special glasses I

bring down pull out some apple that

sparkling apple cider and they’re like

oh mom that’s for me I’ll give you all

some at Christmastime but here during

the rest of the year this is for me so

he’s so just treasuring and I ain’t cuz

it’s me time sometimes it gets a bad rap

and it can be a bad thing yeah you

overdo it but all I’m saying is like

even when you’ll call me and say us

girls the family girls were going to the

mall I’ll come but what am I gonna do

while we’re at the mall she doesn’t like

to shop I hate shopping she’s gonna come

but she’s gonna have a boner hand she’s

gonna sit in the middle of the mall with

whatever store were in she’ll be right

outside just like this reading the book

but she wants us to shop to her if you

so now if you see something just call me

in I just don’t want to go through the I

don’t want it’s too much it’s too much

Amazon works just fine for me you’ve

gotten some cute things off Amazon too

I’m so grateful yes I’m so good by the

way this is something else I think

people do you know because for a long

time there you also did not you just

didn’t buy any clothes you didn’t

nothing you weren’t concerned about it

you still kind of not consistent yeah

but it’s okay cuz look I only did this

for you I know what you you look good

girl like your converse you got on and

everything yes that’s good I’m good

happy medium yes it’d be cute but I tell

them about the website you found that

will get some close to you so you don’t

have to shop stitch fix stitch six six

Finch stay come buddies attach fixed I

paid twenty bucks a month and I get a

box every month and I can keep it or not

but it keeps me out of the store and

keeps new things coming into my house

and probably every third month

I’ll keep something yeah most of the

time it just lets me try on things that

never pick so so it’s something just and

then you come and clean out my closet

yeah yeah because y’all she has this

sweater I’m not throwing it away you

gotta throw it on me I’m gonna do it let

it go I’m not gonna do it let it go no

it’s time it’s not well it’s just time

what would you say are the main things

you’ve learned about finding yourself

again why like personally not further

people why it’s important but what has

happened in your life over you know

writing this book really having to dig

deep into your past again and think

through it and what you’ve learned and

what you’ve gained what is it what is it

done for you to find yourself again to

pay attention to the little longings in

your heart again well I I have just been

reminded of still a reminded because I

was talking to somebody the other day

and I said you know what I could say

this is so much more eloquently if I

would just read you this chapter but I

forgot what I said already so I’ll look

at that if you ever had that happen

where you’d know something and you wrote

it but you don’t remember what you said

so you have to okay you know that never

and never happened of course it doesn’t

because you’re priscilla shirer i’ve

learned that these principles work

because writing what i know i still have

to use it yeah so when I am in that

situation again where I’m feeling lost

or where I realize that I get to choose

to live like this thing right here that

breath mm-hmm it means I’m alive but

choosing to live that’s something I get

to do every moment yeah yeah so if I

start feeling a little under the weather

if I start feeling a little lost if I

start feeling a little misunderstood or

whatever I get to make choices that I

don’t have to walk as a as in reaction

mode all the time mm-hmm I get to

proactively make some decisions and

sometimes I do a good job of it and

sometimes I don’t but I can remember I

remind myself girl you have breath so

choose to live mm-hmm whatever that

looks like today what have you

done let’s see what’s today is today

Monday today’s a Monday today’s the so

today’s a Sunday Sunday what have you

done this previous week to make margin

in your life to have some breathing room

this previous week what what are some

things practically you did this week to

give yourself some space or to just

treat yourself well number one is I had

been walking in the neighborhood had

been a while since I got went to the gym

so yes I’m then girl into the gym went

to the gym and the other thing is I

turned up my heated blanket a notch

because I love a heated blanket and it

makes me so happy so I turned it up a

notch because I can yeah as I can

I like a simple pleasure that’s like a

big deal that’s a big deal yeah and I

bought some mrs. Myers hand soap the one

that smells really good yeah if they had

the so honeysuckle is my favorite and I

was in Target and I was like Target we

don’t need it you know Don would work

just fine but I want mrs. man and I hid

it so I’m the only one that can use it

you’re in so so it’s there in the house

but it’s here just on a special shelf on

a special show they can use the regular

stuff and then when I want everything to

smell or burning a candle burned a

candle a special candle the kids know

not to burn unless I say to burn it yeah

rules at your house no it’s good though

yeah and you know what I appreciate

about sort of what you found in your

journey is that really what she’s still

there does and what you do when you’re

ministering to two people is you really

give people permission to do what they

don’t feel like they have permission to

do they don’t feel like they have

permission to take care of themselves or

honor that little dream that they had

when they were 18 or that little longing

that they have to sit down for 15

minutes with a novel they’d like to sit

down with or burn that candle or buy

that hand soap that that just likes

their fire that they just enjoy you’re

given the permission to find that girl

and that’s that’s in there and honor

find it yeah I have two books that sit

in my car because when I find five

minutes I read those I mean I think

here’s the problem we

that Oh life I’m just she’s just

supposed to be there and if she’s not

there well then oh well no no no no this

is like effort one of my favorite

stories I talk about in the book most of

us remember Jessica McClure being six

feet underneath the ground and she was a

lot a little girl that fell down a well

when CNN it first started we all watched

you know cuz they were trying to get her

out and here’s the thing they would have

gotten her out eventually anyway but

because she was alive and because time

was ticking it was it was super

important yeah to rest me to her rescue

yeah and that’s the thing we have to

understand that if we’re alive and we

feel Six Feet Under

well then you need to get busy about the

business of rescuing that girl because

time is running out mm-hmm that’s good

well you need to get your hands on this

book and listen not just if you’re in a

place where you feel like you’ve already

lost yourself but if you’re 18 19 years

old and you’re just getting going and

let me help you please because life is

going to happen you’re not expecting you

need to be already connected with the

little girl in you the one who’s got

dreams and aspirations who’s headed

somewhere so that you can continue to

make margin in your life to honor that

girl and my sister has done a beautiful

job of chronicling I wanted to say your

first book but you co-authored a book

with dad um called Kingdom woman that is

an incredible book but this is your

first solo this is your first solo book

and I’m and somebody wrote the foreword

you did I was so excited to do it

because I’m excited to see the journey

of your life you’re such a Cheerilee

well I am I’m very excited for you I am

I’m so excited for you and your blessing

a lot of people I enjoy when I hear you

share your story with others your

authenticity your vulnerability and then

the lessons you’re so practical see

that’s the thing a lot of us hear people

speak about stuff and we walk away going

yeah that was so great what am I

supposed to do mm-hmm with all that

stuff I just heard and what you do is

deliver one two three let’s go do this

together together let’s go do it

together we really do need each other

we really do yes so thank you so much

you guys helped me to honor and thank my

sister

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