On this week’s episode of Sid Roth’s It’s Supernatural! 2017: God literally thundered when He spoke to Karen Schatzline. He said, “I desire supernatural encounters with My people and here’s how.” Anybody listening?
Karen Schatzline Takes You from Dry to Overflowing
Are you filled to overflowing? That is God’s measure of spiritual health.
Your physical body can go without water for only three days before it starts shutting down. At that point your mind starts playing tricks on you!
Karen Schatzline says there is only one way to avoid the spiritual parallel. Be filled regularly. Or risk being unable to function properly as a Christian. Karen’s Spiritual Hydration Package includes her book, Dehydrated, and 4-CD set, God’s Supernatural Wellspring. It will help you stay thirsty AND stay filled!
SHOULD YOU LOSE your thirst, Karen says spiritual dehydration will follow soon enough, but you must recognize the problem. Lost focus, diminishing hopes, low motivation and the like. Karen learned from her own challenges that God is THE WELLSPRING, who gives the Spirit without measure. Her experiences have birthed a “Spiritual Hydration 101” for the rest of us, a direct path to the rivers of living water we need. Karen’s reminders and keys include:
• Circumstances do not dictate your destiny • Find your secret place of prayer ASAP • Drought leads to famine…seek God’s latter rain (places the Holy Spirit is moving corporately) • Be humble: re-visit your spiritual wells • Believe God’s Word and embrace transformation
If you find yourself spiritually dry, remember that it is more common than you think. Just don’t stay there! Quench your spiritual thirst before you find yourself…with no thirst at all.
Karen Schatzline ministers to people of all ages. She and her husband, evangelist/author Pat Schatzline, are co-founders of Remnant Ministries International. They are proud parents and grandparents, and reside in Birmingham, AL.
Sid: Hello.
Sid Roth here.
Welcome to my world where
it’s naturally supernatural.
Are you dry?
Are you dehydrated?
Have you lost your first love?
My guest had an
amazing experience.
She heard audible thunder
and then God spoke to her,
and he said, “I desire for my
people to have supernatural
experiences with
me and here’s how.”
You ready?
[Applause]
Is there a
supernatural dimension,
a world beyond the one we know?
Is there life after death?
Do angels exist?
Can our dreams contain
messages from Heaven?
Can we tap into ancient
secrets of the supernatural?
Are healing miracles real?
Sid Roth has spent over 35 years
researching the strange world of
the supernatural.
Join Sid for this
edition of It’s Supernatural!
[Applause]
Sid: You know, you look at me,
you look at my guest and she
told me she just
got back from Brazil,
with some 14,000 people.
She’s speaking
all over the world.
She’s an author.
But it wasn’t always that way.
I want to take you back to your
first day in the seventh grade.
Karen Schatzline: The first day
in seventh grade was traumatic
for me because in
seventh grade I was so shy.
And I remember getting off the
school bus and walking into this
seventh grade, what
appeared to be a prison,
and I went all the way to the
far corner of the courtyard
where we had to wait
until the school bell rang.
And I didn’t realize that that
moment was going to be a moment
in my life that
would change me forever.
And I walked over to
the concrete bench,
and I sat down, and I began to
look through my book bag because
I didn’t want to
look so awkward.
And I began to, I could feel
the tears welling up in my eyes.
No one wants to be labeled the
crier the first day
of seventh grade.
And I remember just
trying to hold that in.
And in that moment I
felt a tap on my shoulder.
And I turned around really quick
because I thought I’m going to
be bullied on the
first day of school.
I’m going to be picked on the
first day of school and had all
this fear built up in my life.
And there was no one there.
I turned around and
there was no one there.
And so I went back to looking
through my
backpack because I was fearful.
And in that moment, I felt
the same tap on my shoulder,
and I turned around because I
wanted to catch
who was bullying me.
Sid: Of course.
Karen Schatzline: But
there was no one there.
And in that moment,
that very moment,
I felt the amazing all-consuming
presence of a loving God that I
grew up in church, but I
had never felt it before.
And I felt as if his presence
sat down right next to me on
that bench, and put
his arms around me.
And when he did all I
heard were these words,
and it began a journey with God
that would show me that he still
speaks to us today.
He still walks with us.
He’s still right there with us.
And I heard him
say to me,
“Karen, I know your name.
I know you.
I knew you first
and you’re not alone.
You’ll never be alone.”
And he said, “If
you allow me to,
I’ll walk this
journey with you.”
And that began a
transformation in my life,
removing fear,
anxiety, just worthlessness,
and I’d love to say that
it happened instantly.
But it was a journey for me that
no matter what I faced through
school, no matter
what I faced growing up,
and I faced many things
throughout the school,
that the difference was I
knew I was never alone,
that he would never leave me
and that he was right there.
[Applause]
Sid: You know, the message God
said to you is the same message
God is saying to you.
You matter.
You matter.
I’m going to now take you
a number of years later.
You’re married
and you’re asleep,
and all of a sudden, you
literally hear thunder.
What happened?
Karen Schatzline: Yes.
And in that time, God
always speaks to me.
He speaks to me through
dreams, through visions.
And in that moment, I knew
that God was birthing something
inside of me, a message that he
had inside of me because he had
rescued me, literally rescued me
from a life of fear and anxiety.
And in that moment, my husband
had wrote books and he had told
me that God had a
book inside of me.
And I said, “No, I
think you’re the writer.
I’m going to let
you be the writer,
and I’m going to do
whatever God wants me to do.”
And I looked at
him in that moment,
and I said, “If God wants me to
write a book then he will speak
to me himself and tell
me to write a book.”
That was my first mistake.
And so I went to bed that
night and I woke up about 2 a.m.
to the sound of the loudest
thunder I had ever heard,
and in the midst of the
thunder, I heard my name.
And I thought my husband had
yelled my name in the middle of
the night, so I
woke him and I said,
“Why did you yell at me?”
And so, and he said,
“I didn’t say anything.
What is wrong?”
So I laid back down and the
moment I dozed back off I heard
the same thunder and my name
in the midst of the thunder.
And I got up out of bed and
ran to the window to see this,
we must be having a storm, and
I looked at the most beautiful
night sky.
I could see the stars.
There was not a
cloud in the sky.
And in that moment, I heard that
same voice that I heard at
13 years old,
sitting on that bench,
and I heard God say, “I’ve
called you with a message.
I rescued you at 13, took
you on a journey to freedom,
giving you hope, giving
you a purpose in life,
transforming your
life, not just for you,
but for those out there
who are lost and hurting,
and without hope and need
to be resurrected as well.”
[Applause]
Sid: Now you heard a word.
What was the word?
Karen Schatzline: The one
word that I heard him say was
“dehydrated”.
Sid: Now there is parallel
between dehydration in the
physical and
dehydration in the spiritual.
Explain that.
Karen Schatzline: That’s right.
Well there is because so many
time we get so busy in life when
we’re doing our own thing, and
we get so busy even thinking
that we’re doing the work of God
that we forget that there is an
actual relationship that
he wants to have with us,
an actual one-on-one
relationship with us
as his children.
And so we get so busy
that everywhere I would go,
everywhere I would be speaking,
everyone who would come up to me
after the message
would say one word to me.
They would say, “I’m so dry.
I’m so weary.
I’m dehydrated.
I’m at a loss of
hope in my life.”
And God spoke to
me, and he said,
“That is the one place that
the enemy is trying to keep my
people is in a place of
dehydration without
fresh living water.
But if they’ll come to me
I’ll give them water that will
sustain them that they
will never thirst again.”
[Applause]
When we are physically
dehydrated and we lose that
sense of hydration in our
bodies we become confused,
we become
disillusioned and frantic.
We start, everything we do is
irrational and everything we do
becomes out of
sense of survival.
And that same thing happens
to us when we’re
dehydrated spiritually.
When we don’t keep going to
well we can’t think clearly.
We can’t be effective in life
when we’re not filled up with
his presence.
Sid: Karen has a gift from God.
She hears from God in dreams.
She had a dream that no
mother should ever have.
She saw her son dead.
We’ll talk about it
when I come back.
[Applause]
We’ll be right back
to It’s Supernatural!
We now return to
It’s Supernatural!
[Applause]
Sid: Karen, you had a
dream no mother should have.
You saw your son dead.
You knew that God
speaks to you very,
very clearly in dreams.
Karen Schatzline: Well actually,
my husband and I both had the
same dream on the same night.
And we went out to a track to
walk the next morning and began
to share with each other
the dream that we had,
and both of us dreamed that
our son was killed
by a car accident.
And at the time, he was about 17
years old and we knew he drove,
and he had a sports
car, and everything.
And so we were immediately
began to pray and begin to pray
protection over him, and begin
to pray that God would keep his
hand on him, that
he would guide him,
and lead him, and
prepare the path for him.
But over the next two weeks, we
began to realize that it was not
a physical death at all, that
the enemy had been attacking
him, had been drawing him
away into areas of life that he
should not have been in.
Our son actually came to us
and began to tell us that he had
been doing things
that he shouldn’t do.
And in the moment that he
began to share with us that,
God took us back to that dream
and showed us that he had been
preparing us for this battle
that we were about to go into,
and just pushing through and
bringing Nate back into a place
of relationship with God.
Because Nate had come to a place
of dehydration in his life where
he had stopped pursuing God and
started being pulled away by the
things of the world that the
world was enticing him with.
So we began to have to go in
and begin to reestablish those
relationships in our home, and
reestablish basically re-digging
the wells that had
been dug for our family,
and in essence,
pushing through the dirt,
pushing through the junk,
pushing through the things that
the enemy had slowly
just seeped into our lives.
And so spiritually in a sense,
we had to grab our spiritual
shovels and start digging
out the garbage that had been
allowed to come into our
home and into our family.
[Applause]
Sid: You know,
what she’s saying,
she’s saying to you it’s time to
take back what belongs to you.
Now, you saw the future of your
son and it didn’t look good.
Karen Schatzline: That’s right.
Sid: What happened with
him after you took him back?
Karen Schatzline: Yes,
because he began to change.
His life began to change.
He came to us and he told us he
wanted to pursue God’s call in
his life and he wanted to do
whatever God wanted him to do.
We were able, by going
into the presence of God,
by leading him into
the presence of God,
to get him back to a place
where he could hear God’s voice,
where he could sense
what God wanted to do.
And now, our son
is 25 years old,
married out in California.
He’s leading an
amazing youth group,
leading thousands of young
people into the presence of God.
[Applause]
Sid: You know, you like to
say God will not leave you.
He will find you.
Karen Schatzline: That’s right.
Sid: Isn’t that good news?
He’s not going to
leave you where you’re at.
Karen Schatzline: Yes.
And that’s true because no
matter what you’re going
through, and I just want to say
to whoever is watching today,
no matter what you walk through,
no matter what you’re facing,
no matter what
you’ve done in your past,
no matter what’s
been done to you,
whether you’ve been hurt or
whether you’ve been abused,
it doesn’t matter.
God knows where you’re at and he
wants to meet you there
in that place.
The good thing about it is that
when God meets you there he’ll
never leave you there.
He takes you on a
journey to freedom.
Just like there was a Samaritan
woman in the Bible and she went
to a well, and this
woman had five husbands.
The Bible tells us
the story of her life.
And so she was living
with the sixth man.
But the cool thing was
on this particular day,
she would meet the
seventh man in her life.
Sid: I love that.
Karen Schatzline: And the number
seven means spiritual perfection
and resurrection.
So while her grace had run out
and she tried to do it on her
own strength, she had
come to the end of herself,
which is where you find
God, in that moment God said,
“You know what, I’m going to
meet you here because you’re
worth my time, because I
care about you and I’m going to
resurrect those things in
your life that you
thought were dead.”
Sid: You know, you talk
about, it ain’t over.
Talk to someone right now and
tell this person it ain’t over.
Karen Schatzline: Well I just
want you to know you may be at
the end today.
You may be in a place and
you may be saying to us today,
you don’t know where I’m at.
You don’t know where I’ve been.
You don’t know what
I’ve done in my past.
But you know what the
cool thing about that is,
that God does know where you’re
at and he does know what you’ve
walked through, and he
knows what you’ve been through,
and he knows what’s
been done to you.
But he says to you
today, it’s not over.
He has the final say.
He has the final word.
He knows the end
from the beginning,
and he has
already won the battle.
And so if you’re
tired and weary,
and dehydrated today, I
challenge you to just look up,
to open your eyes, to open your
arms and to receive the free
gift of living
water that he has,
and that living water is his
presence that he wants to give
you in your life.
[Applause]
Sid: Now, you
talked about your son,
and for the next some eight
years you wanted to have another
child, and you thought
that part of your life,
I don’t know, I’m not
going to have another child.
And then I believe it was,
was it a dream about China?
Karen Schatzline:
It was a vision.
Sid: A vision.
Tell me.
Karen Schatzline: God gave me
a vision because after eight
years, after our son was born,
he was just such
a blessing to us.
But I knew that I had this
longing to have another child
that God had promised me.
I felt like in my spirit that
he had promised me that I would
have another child.
And so one day I had dropped my
son off at school and I was just
at the end.
I was done.
I was discouraged.
I was depressed basically and I
was thinking it’s all about me.
And so I remember driving home
from dropping him off at school,
and I remember
pulling into the garage,
and I said, “God, I give up.
I give up.
I can’t do this anymore.
I don’t know why I
can’t have another child.
I don’t know why you
won’t allow me to do this.”
And so in that moment
when I said I give up,
I heard his voice
audibly, in the car.
I had not even gotten out
of the car in the garage,
and all I heard
him say was, “Good.”
And in that
moment it woke me up,
and he said, “Because now
maybe I can do
a miracle in your life.”
I heard him say to me,
“Karen, if you were in an ocean,
because right now you
feel like you’re sinking,
you feel like you’re in
an abyss of despair.”
And he said, “If you were in
the ocean and you were sinking,
what would keep you
alive right in this moment?”
And I said, “God, I don’t know
if I would want to stay alive.
I’m so discouraged.”
But then in that
picture that he gave me,
he showed me that my son was in
the middle of the ocean with me
and I said, “I would stay
alive to keep him alive.”
And he said, “Exactly.
There are times in your life
where I’m going to be right
there to pull you
out of the sea,
but there’s other times in your
life where you’re out in the
ocean and your purpose is
to rescue someone else,
not to think about yourself.”
And he said, “In
your despair, rescue.”
And in that moment, the map of
China came up in front of me,
and there was a star
in the middle of China,
and he said,
“There is your miracle.
There is your daughter.
Go get her and bring her home
to make your family complete.”
[Applause]
Sid: When we come back I’m going
to talk to you about how brave
and how much
courage you really have.
You’re just looking at it wrong.
We’ll be right back.
[Applause]
We’ll be right back
to It’s Supernatural!
We now return to
It’s Supernatural!
[Applause]
Sid: Someone you
know, if you said,
“It ain’t over” and
they said, “Not for me.”
What would you say to them?
Karen Schatzline: Well I think I
would say to you today when the
world looks at you
and says it’s over,
when people say to
give up on your children,
when people say to give up on
your marriage or on your health,
when they say it’s over that’s
when God steps in and he says,
“It’s not over.”
He’s just giving you a launching
pad for your destiny to launch
you into a place of freedom.
Because what you go through is
a good indication of who you’re
called to.
And what you may call
a tombstone on Earth,
God says that’s not a tombstone,
it’s just a mile marker of where
he’s taking you and the
destination he has for you.
[Applause]
Sid: I like what
you say about scars.
Karen Schatzline: Yes.
Because I really believe that
scars on Earth are testimonies
in Heaven, because no
matter what you go through,
don’t let the scars that you
have keep you hidden and bound,
because what we have to realize
is that our scars are proof that
we have survived, that we didn’t
die where the enemy tried to
take us out.
That when I look in the mirror
and I see the scars that the
enemy has tried to
take me out with,
I can say, you know what,
that’s where I survived.
That’s where God
stepped in and took me out.
[Applause]
Sid: Karen, explain
true bravery to me.
Karen Schatzline: Okay.
Well bravery for me was
something that I thought that I
could never attain.
I thought it was something
that was out of my reach.
But true bravery, and what I
had to come to realize is true
bravery is not the
absence of fear.
That’s where most
people misunderstand.
It’s not the absence of fear.
It’s the realization that
fear has no hold on you when you
reside in the presence
of the Almighty God.
[Applause]
Sid: There are a lot of people
that feel totally rejected and
you like to talk about a
woman that felt the same way.
Tell me about her.
Karen Schatzline: Yes.
Well there is the
woman that I mentioned,
the Samaritan woman in the Bible
who every day walked this walk
of shame to the well.
And I find it so amazing
that God met her at a well.
But what I love is
that she was rejected.
She was rejected
by her community.
She was rejected by the people.
She was rejected by other women.
She was rejected by everyone.
But here Jesus was.
He showed up at the well with
nothing to drink the water with
because here’s why.
He wasn’t there for himself.
He purposed and set out that
day to meet her at the well.
He knew there would be a
woman coming who
was rejected by society.
And so many of us, we think we
have to earn our way into the
presence of God.
And God says I’m already
there waiting for you.
I’m waiting for you in that
secret place to meet you.
I’m waiting for you, for you
just to turn around and see me.
So for you that may
feel rejected today,
that you may feel like that the
world has turned their back on
you, I want you to know that
God would never leave you,
never forsake you,
never walk out on you.
And he’s right there in the
midst of whatever you’re going
with, and he will
never leave you.
Sid: Now, that’s what God spoke
to you about his desire for
these intentional
supernatural encounters.
Karen Schatzline:
Yes, that’s right.
Sid: Dig deep and
pray as God directs,
right now.
Karen Schatzline: Lord, I just
pray right now for every viewer,
for every person that
is watching this show,
today I pray that
right where they’re at,
right where they’re
sitting, if they’re at work,
if they’re in a car line, if
they’re at the grocery store,
no matter where
they’re at, Lord,
I pray that you would
touch their life right now.
Make yourself real to them.
Make yourself known to them.
Let them see you.
Let them hear your voice and
let them feel your all-consuming
power and your
love surround them.
Lord, I pray that right now as
they’re sitting there watching,
Lord, that whatever
they’re walking through,
whatever they’re facing, Lord,
that they will hear you call
their name, that
they will hear you say,
I’m right here with you, and
that they will take you by the
hand, and they will walk out a
journey to freedom as you bring
healing and hope, and
fulfillment back
into their life.
Sid: Three more
words: It ain’t over.
[Applause]
Sid: Next week on
It’s Supernatural!
Guest: An experimental drug with
an unknown side effect made me
sick, but the
anecdote killed me.
I went to Heaven.
Five weeks later, I woke up
in intensive care isolation.
What I saw in Heaven will
affect your life here on Earth.
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