This week on Sid Roth’s It’s Supernatural, Carlos Sarmiento was caught up to heaven to hear God the Father speak to Messiah Jesus about the end times — with instructions for us on how to prepare for the coming of the Lord.
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Sid: Hello. Welcome
to my world where
it’s naturally supernatural.
I just so love breathing in the
rarified air of Heaven.
My guest did it better than most
people.
You see, he was caught up out of
his body unexpectedly to Heaven
and he was granted the privilege
to see the God of Abraham, Isaac
and Jacob speaking to the
Messiah of Israel about the End
Times, and you must, I say you
must hear what he came back to
report.
So let me ask you this question.
My guest Carlos is a, he was at
Benny Hinn’s church.
You were picked out by him.
Tell me real briefly, what
happened.
You just show up and what
happened?
Carlos: First time I attended
church there, the ushers, for
whatever reason, sit me at the
third row, aisle seat, dead
center from the platform where
he’s preaching.
And in the middle of his
preaching, he stops, points his
finger at me, he says, “I don’t
know who you are, young man, but
the call of God is all over your
life.
The anointing is upon you and
from this day forward, usher,
when this young man comes into
this church building, I want you
to make sure he gets a seat up
front.”
That was my introduction to
Benny Hinn and to his church.
Sid: And then he starts working
on the team, and then he starts
his own congregation, and then
it’s hugely successful, and then
everything that’s supposed to
happen is happening, and he
feels that he’s arrived.
And then he goes to a
meeting and a prophet says:
“Who here does this city
mean anything to?”
And he knows it’s him.
He stands up.
And what does this prophet Kim
Clement say to you?
Carlos: Well the prophet said
that there’s somebody here
connected to Indiana.
And so he goes through a process
of elimination.
Twelve people raise their hands
and he goes, “No, it’s not you,
not you, not you.”
When finally I was forced to
lift up my hand because he goes,
“It’s somebody on the right side
of the platform.”
So I raise my hand and the
moment I did, he goes,
“It’s you.”
And he says, “I want you to take
four large steps towards this
podium, this platform.”
And so I did, and as I did he
was counting them: 1, 2, 3, 4.
Finally when gets to 4 he says,
“Stop.”
And he goes, “Thus saith the
Lord.
You’ve taken four major steps in
ministry, related to ministry.
But the fifth step, the next
step will be the biggest step
ever you’ve ever taken.
It will take you to places
you’ve dreamed about.
It will take you to places of a
greater glory, greater
manifestation.”
And so of course, I interpret
that in a totally different way
to how it turned out.
But nonetheless, it was that
prophetic word that really
almost catapulted me to really
seek the Lord in a more sincere
way, in a more deeper way, in a
more consecrated way.
Sid: So you know what?
It says in the Bible that if you
draw close to God, He’s going to
draw close to you.
That’s what happened to Carlos.
Because on May 8, 2005, he’s
minding his own business,
sleeping. What happened?
Carlos: And all of a sudden in
the middle of the night, my
spirit begins to rise up out of
my body.
And at first, I was just like
hovering, hanging over the bed.
I could see my physical body
laying there.
I could see my wife laying next
to me.
I thought to myself, what in the
world is going on.
I thought I passed away.
That thought went through my
mind.
Sid: I can understand.
Carlos: And then all of a
sudden, I feel these two massive
arms and I knew it was an angel.
And I could see myself.
He was cradling me, holding me
between his two arms.
And the moment I saw that, we
began to rise.
And I remember looking at the
roof and I ducked my head
because I thought I was going to
hit my head against the roof,
and to my surprise, we go right
through the roof of the house.
And so that’s when I thought,
oh, Lord, I passed away.
And I began to pray for my wife,
my kids.
So for a brief moment, my mind
and my thoughts, my emotions
were on earthly matters.
And then all of a sudden from
one instant to another instant,
a moment, my emotions were
flooded with this incredible
joy, joy I had never felt before
because I knew that I was about
to go see Jesus, the Son of God.
And so I remember just closing
my eyes and thinking to myself,
I’m ready.
And then we shoot through the
atmosphere going through the
clouds.
And then in an instant I find
myself in this big open expanse
of a place of, for lack of a
better word, a large opening, a
room.
I didn’t see any buildings.
I didn’t see any angels.
I didn’t see anybody.
I just saw, in the natural I’m
color blind, so I saw these
incredible colors, massive,
beautiful colors.
And the neat thing about that,
Sid, was the colors were
actually breathing.
There was life, like if it was
lungs.
It was expanding and inhaling.
I could see the colors actually
breathe and full of life.
Sid: You know, I had heard
reports like this before.
Everything is alive in Heaven.
I have heard that the grass is
even alive.
It’s like we haven’t even
experienced life on this dead
earth until we have the life of
God inside of us.
But how would you like to be in
a place where everything is
alive, no death. I like it.
Carlos: Yes.
And so from that room, all of a
sudden in an instant I was back
into this other room.
And in this room, I saw two
figures and they were standing
at an angle like this, maybe
from here to the camera, maybe
10 feet.
And then I heard a voice and the
voice said: “To you, it’s been
granted to stand here and
listen.”
Because I immediately recognized
it was the Father and the Son.
At first, I didn’t know who it
was, but when I, as I got a
little closer, than I heard the
voice.
I recognized it was Jesus and
the Father, and they were having
a conversation.
And so when I heard the voice it
told me, “You’ve been granted
permission to stand here and
listen,” I remember turning my
ear this way to listen to their
conversation, and to my
surprise, they were talking
about the End Times.
Sid: Hold that thought.
When we come back, I don’t have
to tell you to be sure to come
back, you will be
back. I know that.
Don’t go away.
We’ll be right back to
It’s Supernatural!
We now return to
It’s Supernatural!
Sid: Now how would you like to
have been caught up out of your
body, go right through the roof
of your house as if it wasn’t
there, escorted by angels into
Heaven and be chosen to hear a
discussion between God and the
Messiah about the End Times.
Carlos, tell me one thing you
eavesdropped on.
Carlos: I remember hearing
clearly that they talked about
the difficult hour that lay
ahead and how the church would,
given the opportunity, to be
purged and the opportunity to
really experience the greatness
of what still lays ahead, the
greatest outpouring of the
Spirit of God.
But clearly, the way the
download I was receiving is I
heard all that, reminded me very
much of the readings that, you
know, you do on an annual basis
as a regular Christian on the
End Times Book of Revelation,
the Book of Daniel.
So I remember listening to this
conversation and I was brought
to my memory was all the
judgments that are coming based
upon the Book of Revelation and
also Joel, Book of Daniel.
But I received and I felt like
this is an hour, an opportunity
for the church to be stronger
and to understand the importance
to be ready and alert.
Because my sense is, for the
most part, the body of Christ
for the most part is not
prepared for what is about to
take place.
Sid: Okay.
Do you think you’ll be alive
when all this happens?
Carlos: I firmly believe that I
will be alive.
I believe that my eyes will
physically see the coming of the
Lord.
And when you study church
history, those who remain on
fire for the Lord, even the
Apostle Paul and Peter, they
believed in their day, in their
hour that they would see the
coming of the Messiah, the
coming of the Lord.
And I feel like the church must
understand once again End Time
eschatology.
We must be students, we must
understand the signs, the
seasons, the hour that we’re
living in so that we can live an
urgent life.
And when we have that
understanding of sense of
urgency our hearts, our lives,
are completely given to the
Lord.
I feel that there’s a greater
surrender as a result of
understanding the hour that
we’re living in.
Sid: Okay.
But then the most terrifying
thing that ever happened to
Carlos happened to him in
Heaven.
What happened?
Carlos: What happened is they
went from discussing about the
urgency of the hour, they went
from discussing about the
greatest outpouring of the Holy
Spirit, the greatest miracles,
not all gloom and doom, there’s
great hope.
But then the hope culminates in
this incredible manifestation
that I believe the Spirit of God
is doing right now, and that is
this.
I heard the Father
say to Jesus:
“It’s time, Son, go
get your bride.”
Sid: What did that mean to you?
Carlos: At first, I was shocked
and stunned.
But I had this doubt and this
understanding, and revelation
that I as part of the Church of
Christ, in that moment, I was
not prepared and I was not ready
to really see him come back.
Even though we may have the
right confession, we may have
the right lingo, we may say the
right words, but in reality for
the most part, many of us in the
church, including myself at that
time, I was not ready, was not
prepared.
And so when those words came out
of the Father to the Son, I
remember this, it was the most
horrible fear.
I call it the terror of the
Lord, the most horrible fear and
terror that I had ever felt.
It was like those words rolled
out of his mouth like a ball, a
ball of fire.
And I remember those words just
rolling towards me, and I knew
it was going to hit my
midsection.
And when it hit my body, I
remember trembling violently and
I couldn’t contain myself, and I
felt that these words, something
was going to come out my mouth.
I tried to hold myself back and
I couldn’t.
I remember yelling out loud and
feeling the condition of my
heart when I cried out, “No!
We’re not ready!”
That’s what I did.
I raised my fists.
Sid: You weren’t even thinking
this.
It came out from your innermost,
this man is not ready.
What about us?
I’ll tell you what.
He was downloaded from Heaven
how to be ready.
Now when he says “ready”, he
doesn’t mean repenting of sins.
He repented of his sins.
He doesn’t mean having the
Messiah live inside of him.
The Messiah lives inside of him.
When he said, “I’m not ready,”
he meant, “I am not prepared to
be involved in the next, in the
greatest and perhaps the last
move of the presence of God, of
the mercy of God on Planet
Earth.”
And he was commissioned on what
he had to do to be ready and
what you have to do to be ready.
By the way, I heard something
about you.
Someone has pain in their neck
and their back, and I tell you,
in the Messiah of Israel’s name,
if you have a pain in your neck,
move your head.
You’ll see the pain is gone.
Or stand up and bend over,
you’ll see the pain is gone.
And I’m going to be right back
and tell you how you will not
miss the moment of your
visitation.
We now return to
It’s Supernatural!
Sid: The most terrifying words
my guest Carlos heard in Heaven
is that he was not ready.
After thinking about this,
pondering and taking time,
why were you not ready?
Carlos: So I come out of this
encounter and I find myself back
in my physical body.
I’m on the floor weeping,
totally distraught and disturbed
by the encounter.
And those words haunted me, Sid,
for two hours.
I lay there weeping, saying,
haunted by those words, “No
we’re not ready, no we’re not
ready.”
So I asked the Lord, “Well why
am I not ready?”
Was I talking about myself, the
ministry, my family, the church
in general?
And after two hours I heard the
Holy Spirit say this to me, he
said, “Son, if I took you home
right now, you are ready to meet
me for eternity.”
And he said this: “But in the
condition that your heart is in
right now, you are not ready for
the next great move of the Holy
Spirit.”
Sid: But wait a second now.
Did you see miracles in your
congregation?
Carlos: Absolutely.
Sid: Did you see people coming
to know the Messiah?
Carlos: Absolutely.
Sid: Were you growing?
Carlos: Absolutely.
Sid: Did you have financial
problems?
Carlos: Not at all.
Sid: And he wasn’t ready.
And so here’s what the Lord
began to reveal to my heart.
He began to reveal to my heart
that I had become a professional
minister.
In other words, I had become,
grown so comfortable in my
calling that the ministry was
routine.
I mean, you can get up behind a
platform.
And you know, my heart was still
for the Lord.
Don’t get me wrong.
I still love the Lord.
But in other words, my heart was
no longer on the edge, a
prophetic edge.
And the Holy Spirit began to
reveal to me, he said, “Son,
you’ve left your first love.”
He reminded me of the Church of
Ephesus.
Remember Revelation 2, where the
Spirit of the Lord rebuked the
church for leaving her first
love.
Although they had great
ministry, they had great
doctrine, great miracles, but
they left their first love.
And the Spirit of God began to
reveal to me, “Son, because you
left your first love, therefore,
there’s a lack of humility.”
And the lack of humility, which
I believe is a major component
that we have to have restored in
the preachers of America, the
preachers of the Western church,
the preachers in the Body of
Christ, so because the true
spirit of humility is a pure
dependence upon God where there
is no glory for man.
Sid: I like that.
Carlos: There is no glory for
the church, a specific local
church.
There is no glory for the
ministry.
But He gets all the glory.
And the true spirit of humility
is that what John the Baptist
said: “I must decrease, but he
must increase.”
And so I really believe this is
an area that the Spirit of God
is honing in on so that the
church can understand if we
truly are humble, He will exalt
this.
And there’s many that are
watching right now by television
that the Holy Spirit, I saw
earlier the Spirit of God almost
like take His hand and turn a
spigot and I saw fresh release
of affections.
I saw a fresh release of love.
And those of you that are
watching me now, just be
sensitive and ask the Lord, say,
“Lord, would you please open up
the portal of my heart.
Open up the portal of my soul,”
because the Lord wants to
download love and affection.
He wants you to feel how much He
feels about you.
And the reason why many of us
are stuck, we’re not
progressive, we don’t feel the
presence of the Lord or we’re
not happy, I mean some of the
saddest Christians are
Christians who are bored, and
they’re bored because fully
realize how God feels about
them.
And so for those of you that are
watching right now, in Jesus’
name, receive that fresh turning
of the affections of God for
your life even right now in
Jesus’ name.
And so I just felt from the Lord
that the Spirit of God was
asking me to focus on two
things: Son, become more
dependent on me, seek my face,
and the number two, turn to your
first love.
Sid: You know what I’m reminded
of and I’d like to have your
reaction to this, our country is
so wonderful.
You don’t have to believe God to
be physically healed.
You got to the best doctors in
the world.
That’s what our medical system
is.
You have money to buy anything
you want.
You have media, you have
Internet, you have TV, you have
entertainment, you have sports.
You’re busy, busy, busy, busy.
Carlos: Yes.
Sid: I wrote a book many years
ago from a song.
The song was, “There Must Be
Something More,” because I work,
eat, sleep, and that’s the way
it goes.
Carlos: Yes.
Sid: Because I work, eat, sleep
and that’s the way it goes.
There must be something more.
Carlos, you have started a 7-day
a week, 24-hour prayer meeting
in Orlando.
A lot of people when they hear
things like that, they say, I am
so glad.
You were called to pray.
I’m not.
I mean, I’ll pray my prayers in
the morning for a couple of
minutes, but that’s your thing,
not my thing.
What would you say to them?
Carlos: I would say to them that
the Bible is very, very clear.
Every one of us are both kings
and priests.
And a king minsters to half of
the king of all kings.
But a priest ministers to the
king, to the priests of all
priests.
So I would say that we must
return back to ministering
faithfully at the altar.
Sid: Like King David.
Carlos: Like King David.
The altar of prayer and the
altar of worship.
The altar of His presence, to be
faithful at that.
That’s what, you mentioned King
David.
He was the most successful
Jewish king.
Why?
Because David understood, if I
can have the Glory, if I can
have the presence, if I can make
sure that he’s being ministered
to, day and night, night and
day, I’m assured of the victory
my God’s presence.
And that’s the missing link, I
believe.
We may have great churches,
great ministers with the power
and the Glory of God.
I don’t knock that.
I’m for that.
But we need to see that resort
to the individual believer, not
just to a service, not just to a
conference, not just to a
seminar, not just to an
outreach.
We need to have every believer
understand, wait a second, it’s
not the pastor, it’s not just
the evangelist.
I’m called as an individual to
return back to minister to the
Lord.
And that’s what I believe the
Lord is saying.
Return back to your first love.
The greatest commandment is not
a suggestion.
It’s a commandment: Thou shalt
the Lord thy God with all thy
heart, mind, soul and strength.
And when you look at the Bible,
Genesis to Revelation, it’s
about one thing, Sid.
Ready?
It’s about a wedding.
Sid: A wedding.
Carlos: It’s a wedding.
In other word… Sid: To be
candid with you, I know what
he’s saying.
But I have never really thought
about it.
Did you hear what he said, from
Genesis to Revelation, it’s
about a wedding.
Explain.
Carlos: History began in
Genesis, Chapter 1, 2 and 3 with
Adam and Eve.
What’s that about?
Man and woman becoming one.
That’s a wedding.
First miracle of Jesus of his
ministry, where?
John, Chapter 2 at the wedding
of Cana in Galilee.
And then one of the greatest
apostles, if not the greatest
apostle, was Paul, and he has
his revelation of the mystery.
Do you know about the mystery,
the Jew and gentile becoming
one.
But he takes it further and the
Lord reveals to him, this
mystery he’s talking about is
the heart of God, the plan of
God having to pass for all of
eternity, which is what?
God and man becoming one.
And he uses the picture of a
husband and a wife.
He says, “I speak to you a
mystery when I’m speaking
concerning Christ and the
church.”
And then we Revelation, Chapter
22 in Verse 17, one of the last
statements the Spirit of God
says about the End Times is
this: “And the spirit and the
bride, they come.”
I believe the greatest identity
that’s about to be released to
the Body of Christ, we know what
it is to be a child of God, we
know what it is to be a son of
God and many of us know what it
is to be a friend of God.
But the greatest revelation and
the greatest identity, the most
intimate relationship on Earth
is that between a man and a
woman, a husband and a wife.
And the Spirit of God is
releasing this revelation that
Christ is the bridegroom and the
church is the bride.
Sid: You know, I’m reminded of
another way.
At this particular wedding, the
very first miracle the Messiah
of Israel demonstrated, he
turned water into wine, the
wedding at Cana.
And this is what
his mother Miriam
said: “Whatever
he says, do it.”
That’s what Carlos is talking
about.
That’s what Carlos heard from
Heaven.
But you don’t what he said if
you’re not reading His Word.
You don’t have a revelation of
what he said, if you’re not
praying, you don’t know anything
if you don’t have intimacy with
God.
If there has ever been a time
that you must have your own
intimacy with God, someone can’t
do it for you.
You’ve been lied to.
You must have your own intimacy
with God.
Believe the Messiah of Israel
died for your sins.
Believe that his blood, the
Pasach blood, the Passover
blood, washed your sins away.
Believe that you are clean and
he lives inside of you and is
your Lord, and start doing
whatever he says.
Do it!
Sid: Next week on
It’s Supernatural!
My guest has prayed for and
equipped hundreds of thousands
believers in the Messiah, of
leaders worldwide and I tell you
that this man wants to equip you
right now to be normal.