Priscilla Shirer, Tony Evans: Family Pain & God’s Divine Disruption | FULL TEACHING ​| Praise on TBN

Priscilla Shirer sits down with Dr. Tony Evans, Chrystal Evans Hurst, Jonathan Evans, and Anthony Evans on TBN’s Praise. Listen in as this inspiring family shares their testimonies of God’s divine disruption in the midst of family pain, loss, and grief.

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he makes a powerful statement he says

i’ve heard about you with the hearing of

the ear i’ve been to bible study been

the church been the small group all that

been to sunday school

but now i have seen you with my own eyes

so ask god when your world falls apart

to make himself visible to you in a new

way and he wants to do it

because of what he allowed to disrupt

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a couple of years ago now 2018

is that correct 2018 where

our cousin she was one of our close she

was really more like a sibling than a

cousin

but winter unexpectedly

just her heart just gave out so she was

38 years old

and um literally she was fine one day

and the next day her heart stopped and

so that started a string of losses

over the next

two years every four to six months

another family member passed away um and

the reason why we’re acknowledging

um dad’s loss in this is because every

single person was directly connected to

daddy

so and obviously to all of us but really

directly to dad so he lost his niece

that was winter

and then shortly thereafter your brother

passed away

then your sister passed away then your

sister’s wife passed away so all our

aunts and uncles on that side of the

family

and

and then we had another cousin pass away

and then to daddy your dad

in the same month as mom

and then shockingly as well actually an

eighth person passed away because then

my mother-in-law eight months after mom

my mother-in-law passed away who was

very close to all of us as well

um so we had eight losses in the course

of two years just back-to-back losses so

it has been

quite a journey emotionally yeah it’s

been it’s been a lot and a lot of people

you know

don’t up until mommy maybe they didn’t

really know all of that right yeah

because winter exactly winter and mommy

but didn’t really know about all of that

and wouldn’t really think

about it because of how daddy operates

yeah he continues to preach he continues

to keep rolling he continues to build he

continues to encourage

and all of those different things

so how do you uh one of my thoughts is

as your son is man this guy keeps going

yeah even while it seems like things are

falling around him yeah

and so how do you keep that up do that

how are you able to

to be that faithful in a season

like that

well i mean

it starts with your view of god if if

god is sovereign if god is in control

if you’re going to trust him if you

believe that there is life to come

and if we’re still here and therefore

have a job to do

then while we should

while we should

be struggling with loss

we should be struggling hopefully and

not hopelessly

that’s two different perspectives and

struggle

and so when the hope is there then you

keep going even if you’re going slower

than you used to even if you’re going

with sadness or tears or

struggles or uh you know sleepless

nights you still

you still go because god is still true

to his word he’s true to his promises

he’s true to his provisions and he’s

true to our our future so

so and there’s still people other people

are grieving too yeah so you know during

this season of covert and race and

politics and economics and

all the global crisis we’re facing we’re

not the only ones grieving so they need

they need they need ministry too so you

got to keep ministering to our local

flock first of all at old cliff but then

nationally through the urban alternative

we we we wanted to

to let what god was doing with us and

through us and in our pain be a ministry

to others as well as we walk this

journey together because everybody is

going to walk this journey at some point

in their lives

and speaking of continuing to do

ministry that is why we are all sitting

here together is because we we

collectively made a decision to

try to figure out a way to use what

we’ve been facing and how we’ve dealt

with it to to minister to people so we

did something very unique um

we we have a it’s a it’s a book but it’s

like this it’s the conversation it’s a

family conversation we all have

different crazy different personalities

i’m the hyper-emotional one uh crystal

is

the she’s the smart like logical she’s

really super smart so right here you may

think she’s being quiet but she’s

formulating things that she’s going to

say in a minute that are going to change

your life no pressure

priscilla’s missed personality as you’ve

seen and very opposed to the smart one

absolutely i mean she’s also smart and

dynamic but she’s growing up she got in

trouble for talking a lot but now it

god’s used all things for good you know

what i mean he’s worked out i showed you

god is the miracle worker

yes because

that’s this personality and then

jonathan’s the the athlete the the

self-proclaimed favorite um but that’s

true but no he he makes a decision and

then he goes after it but we get to talk

about how from all these different

personality types how we held on to

to to faith in these moments so i i want

to know just just a kind of a blanket

statement a blanket question for

everybody is how specifically given all

the things that we face collectively and

things you’ve faced in your life as an

individual how have you what are some

practical steps you’ve taken to hold on

to faith when life was shaking

you up chrissy

i think

when we talk about

um

you dad and how you

have continued to do ministry i think

that that is a big part of it

us as children watching you

us as children our whole lives watching

you and mommy because the truth be told

while this is definitely

a major major loss for our family

there have been

lots of things over the years that have

happened that have been hard

that you all have had to walk through

and what we’ve seen you do and seeing

you do consistently

and faithfully

is stay the course

we didn’t just see you and mom do that

we saw our grandparents do that on both

sides

so there’s this legacy of

faithfulness that has been

deposited in us generationally as a

legacy we are not

when people ask me how i’m doing

or they ask any of us how we’re doing i

think to say that we’re able to do that

because of our wiring

that’s just a small part of

the the design is also something that

has been gifted

to us and granted to us and blessed us

by generational faithfulness

and so while it’s hard it’s not hard

while it has been uphill

it’s been at a pace that’s been doable

and i think at the end of the day

what we have done individually

and what i have done individually

is

you know the bible says we look to jesus

who is the author of the finisher of our

faith

and if i can take a little liberty with

that you know i look to dad you know i

look at mom i look at her example and i

say okay if they can do it i can do it

you know

and i think that

the good thing is when i share that and

say okay it’s because of family and

because of legacy and because of support

and because i can go to daddy and say

okay dad this is hard like i have these

questions

and i have that relationship with my dad

to do that

the the good news is for somebody who

listens and says but that’s not my story

well then dad always tells the story of

course of his dad who didn’t have that

that wasn’t his so any of us get to

start anywhere and if you don’t have a

dad to look at like i’ve been able to

look at my dad or look at our aunt you

know auntie or look at her siblings or

look at each other

for support you do have somebody to look

at you know someone who is the author

and the finisher of your faith so

my ability to keep it going is not

because i got some juice to keep it

going

it’s because there is faithfulness to

stand on from legacy that i’ve inherited

that ultimately traces its way back to

jesus christ that’s correct but that

faithfulness

that we’ve watched him

you know

live out

has come through like this setup is not

a representation of what we’ve been

through right okay this this is this is

nice what we went through with crocodile

tears yeah we went through was the

lowest of the low

when daddy told us the news and ran to

the other side of the room and was

bawling crying and and then anthony and

priscilla chased after him and they were

bawling crying and then

i felt like somebody rubbed icy hot all

over my body and didn’t even know what

to do i mean you’re talking about going

all the way to the low of the low

and

in crystal talking about those examples

um that obviously being the lowest in my

in my view um but

them holding on to faith

through the lowest of the low like

people need to know that the evans

family ain’t sitting up here this this

is nice

that’s not what it looked like

um this is this is you know a year and a

half later or however long we’re able to

take use that time um it could know i

wrestled with god big time yeah i was

like man we prayed

your word says this that i was you know

based on the scriptures good dad always

taught take the scripture and throw it

back into god’s face because god is is

you know what i’m saying obligated to

his word his word is obligated to him so

we did all of that um where two or three

gather we had the whole world praying we

had so we did it

by the book

and we had an expectation

um that god is going to come through

and

it felt like he didn’t it felt like we

just we were just like

yeah like we got it there’s a lot of

people feel like that a lot of people

are like yeah

you know so

you know is he god or not yeah you know

what i mean and um and so people need to

realize that that’s what it really

looked like it didn’t look like this and

so when we’re watching mom and dad hold

on to faith through those times

it was some hard times that looked like

hard times

um

that that we had to go through and so

yeah there’s definitely been a wrestle

yeah well the the book is called divine

disruption um

and i

having trying really hard you have to

try really hard for me an emotional

person if you’re anything like

me i know i’m hoping a lot of the

viewers are like me because it’s

sometimes the lonely world out here in

this family but everybody’s so so strong

but um

it’s called divine disruption so i i

want to know

finding

god in disruptions what do you need to

do

to change to get your perspective to

where

you can see god pass because disruption

is such a it’s such a thing for an

emotional person like me

how do you see god when when there’s so

much disturbance how do you get that

that that clear daddy or priscilla or

anybody but i well you know what

there are many times in the bible where

people are struggling with god yes

rebecca wants to know why how long

job’s big question is why did the

righteous suffer

you know so

it is

fake news to assume

that to be committed to christ means

that you will not suffer

in this world you will have tribulations

john

16 33 says

but then he says be of good cheer i have

overcome the world so the circumstances

are never to have the final say-so

although they are real that you have to

deal with so the question is how do you

deal with them well a lot of times what

people do

is they want to find god in the midst of

it when they have been built a

relationship with god before it came

and it’s hard to pour a foundation in

the storm you you that’s a hard thing to

do

the idea is to increasingly build

your confidence in a sovereign god god

has two wills he has a unconditional

will a conditional will his

unconditional will means he’s going to

do it whether you

like it or not because he’s decided to

do it his conditional will means he’s

going to do it if you meet the

conditions

well obviously it was god’s

unconditional will to take mom home at

70 years old

when he did because

we met the conditions and he still did

it so that’s his unconditional will but

if you only believe god has a

conditional will

then you’re going to be disappointed

when you when you’ve met the conditions

and the opposite thing happens but when

you know he has unconditional will that

his sovereign plan overrides

our desires

for his glory and our good and maybe

what god wanted to do was to use our

loss

which was in his will

to help others in their loss

and their grief and their hurt and their

struggle

because god never wastes

bad times on us

he uses them for good times for others

and just to your point dad about

building your confidence and your

relationship with the lord before the

storm comes i think one of the

ways that people can do that i know it’s

been helpful for me i didn’t even

realize i was doing it but actually

writing down and keeping a track record

of when you see the fingerprints of god

in your life

i look back now and realize i was

probably just keeping a little journal

i’m not one of those people that

journals like every day or you know even

every you know religiously every week or

anything like that but just when

something happens that i see the

fingerprints of god opening a door or

closing a door that in hindsight i

realize was his best plan for me

or i see something happening where it’s

just what some would consider ordinary

but there’s the traces of god’s

handiwork just moving things around i

write that down because you won’t

remember what happened a decade ago

but when you open up this little book

you’ve scribbled some notes about what

god has done and then you look back and

you begin to actually see how things

that seemed disconnected at the time or

just seemed like it wasn’t going your

way how you’re working god work watching

god work that out then it helps to build

your confidence when you’re going

through something now because you

realize wait a minute if he sustained me

in my 20s and my 30s and even in my

teenage years when i look back and see

little things i wrote down and i go oh

my gosh the lord was

the lord was moving even then to derail

me into into a particular direction

that track record becomes a booster for

you

in the current things that you’re facing

in your life

so i’ve even done that with my sons i’ve

kept a little journal for each of the

boys i bought a little journal when i

started when my oldest was five i went

to ross dress for less in the back

corner there they’ve got these little

journals for 5.99 and i’ve had the same

ones for i guess now 15 years and every

now and then when i just see just a

little hint

in a question they’ve asked or a

conversation we’ve had or some way i can

see god working and moving and something

he’s lined up for them

i write it down because i want to be

able to give it to them and say look

if if he did this for you then when you

hit the bumps of life which we all are

then you can trust him because he’s

already proven to you that he’s going to

be faithful yeah and jonathan you

mentioned wrestling with god which we

all watched you do firsthand because you

are the athlete of the family like you

you do this and then you end up here you

work out and you end up doing but like

that’s just kind of how your mind works

but as we talk about as as we’ve heard

these things that were said i remember i

think chapter nine of the book you

basically talk about getting the place

where you realized that god’s answer was

yes or yes and you had to get yourself

there can you can you elaborate on that

when it comes to yeah absolutely uh just

thinking about you know what dad is

saying in his conditional and

unconditional will like we met the

conditions

so i’m like uh i’m just waiting i did it

the whole time i’m hopeful yeah the

whole time yeah we all were and i’m

watching mommy kind of decline but i’m

like uh it’s okay because he’s gonna

it’s gonna be a greater you know what i

mean like yeah so i’ve done that in my

mind and and the the the effort that we

had put forward just calling on the name

of the lord and and i felt like this was

a great opportunity for him

god this is a great opportunity for you

now no you need to take advantage of

this one this is a that’s right

everybody’s watching yeah um and so i

kind of got to a place where i really

felt was hopeful about it and when he

basically said no

that’s how i received it initially

that we did all of this

and you just didn’t come through right

um you didn’t make a way out of out of

no way you know you didn’t do those

things

but then god you know in my quiet time

in silence silence and solitude i got

clarity just spending time with god and

he just said you know you don’t

understand my victory you’re complaining

because you don’t really understand what

jesus christ has done it was hard for

you to watch your mother die but how

much harder was it to me to watch my son

die so your mother can actually live and

when i thought about the life that has

been given

in his unconditional will that his

unconditional will even meeting his

conditions

was better than what i prayed for trying

to meet his conditional will

um you asked for healing she’s got it

you asked her to be with family she’s

got it you asked her to be well taken

care of she’s got it you don’t

understand i’ve given you everything you

asked for on a higher level than you ask

for it and you don’t understand it

because you’re a kid

you’re not

you know i’m saying the same thing with

my kids they just don’t get it

until they get to a point of maturity

where they’re able to say oh dad his

will is just best

and and now we can do what my mom always

said with my mom like she’s not yours we

can do it our mom always said your

greatest ministry will come right out of

your greatest misery

and

and keep on going you know one of the

ways me and daddy encourage each other

you know through football

is you know in in football every player

has to retire

it happens every time and the players

that are still on the field are sad you

know because that’s the that’s their guy

right

but all you can do is put your head down

and keep playing until you retire too

because you want to hear the coach say

the same thing to you that he said to

him well done you played hard here’s

your gold jacket

enjoy retirement and that’s what mommy’s

doing she retired she’s enjoying

that retirement in his rest and we’re

gonna put our heads down we’ll keep

playing hard that’s great all the way to

the finish yeah there are so many things

that we

had had to to learn i mean i didn’t

realize i think daddy told me this he

thought that when we were going through

this

and and mommy thought this too she would

look at me and be like are you okay but

it wasn’t a normal are you okay it was

kind of like

uh this is the kid that could fall apart

with this much weight on him emotionally

that it was that kind of are you okay

and i

all the things that we’ve talked about

all the lessons that i learned along the

way even in the hard moments of my life

i didn’t realize were training me for

this moment in the book um i can’t

remember what what chapter but we tell

the story of of the karate kid which i

won’t tell the whole thing now priscilla

tells it a lot um do you want to just

hit on that real quick i mean well just

that there was a lot of training i mean

the karate kid you know the the one with

daniel’s son and mr me yeah the original

the original one

although that was good too yes but the

original one you know danielson wants

training

and in karate so he goes to mr miyagi

and mr miyagi basically has him managing

his house cleaning cars painting fences

sanding the floor

and he just daniel becomes extremely

frustrated he’s like you this is not

what i’m fighting for yeah i came here

to train to be able to be excellent at

the craft of karate and so mr miyagi

sees his frustration and he starts

throwing punches

and daniel without thinking about it

begins to block all of these punches and

kicks that are coming his direction he

did not know that all of that training

that seemed unnecessary and seemed

mundane and just like he was actually

accomplishing nothing

in that mundane training was actually

everything that he needed to be prepared

for the fight he was learning he was

becoming masterful at the craft it just

didn’t look like it in the moment

even as a worship leader and traveling

around and all of us in our different we

collectively do things a lot together

but for me

even as a worship leader and stuff i

didn’t know and being in full-time

ministry i didn’t know that i was

capable of that fight of the fight we

have gone through

collectively i did not know i was

capable of that and

the punches that got the blocks that

came out of me naturally

i was like oh i really do believe this i

really

i didn’t know that i believed it this

deep mm-hmm so a lot of my faith through

that time came through from you

which you never knew it wild yeah

because you were coming to me and say

i mean you were

settled in i’m not even worried about it

i already know it’s going to work out

and you would say do you think it’s

weird that i’m so hopeful

and i would say no i’m right there with

you i mean that’s what we were so so the

greater the disappointment you know that

we felt but that’s

that’s the training that you had because

i believed i guess i believed kind of

along the lines of what you’re saying

like mommy even though i don’t want to

see her in pain i don’t ever want to

experience that on any level i don’t

want anybody to ever have to experience

watching a family member

go through that but i think i just knew

i cognitively and in my heart knew like

this is our faith will play itself out

that’s the bottom line and you were

right

yeah it’s it’s so wild to me um i didn’t

a chapter was at chapter 15 we talk

about well crystal mostly talks about

doing the right thing along the way as

you are

um all the things we talked about your

understanding that god is is divine our

god is um has a conditional

unconditional will you’re learning about

what it means to really be hopeful but

what about the day-to-day like what do i

do next the right thing along the way

even when you’re hurting can you speak

to that

yeah you know

i think

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i was literally

just recently talking to my daughter

who’s 30 years old and whatever she was

asking me

um my answer as i answered her

you know i heard mommy’s voice

because it was

the same thing you know it’s it’s a new

problem to her but it’s not to me but

one of the things we know mommy would

say all the time is this too shall pass

when you have

a history

with god and you know that the thing

that seems the most difficult for you in

a moment

that you’ll get past it so one way or

another you’ll you’ll get past it you’ll

learn from it you’ll grow from it you’ll

experience god in a new way

um

that is

often just the next right thing you

don’t have

you don’t and i keep talking about our

history but i even remember our

grandmother saying because you know

daddy’s a doctorate of theology and our

uncle was a doctor of sociology he had a

doctor of sociology and i said

did people ask you how did you do that

like how did you have these kids that

were so highly educated and she said i

just kept doing the next right thing to

have children who were law-abiding

citizens and were good people like i

wasn’t trying to achieve that right and

i think when people would ask mommy and

daddy about us how do you do that like

how do you get four kids who are all

still involved in your church or

involved in ministry what they were

doing was the next right thing and for

mommy that was fixing dinner

and making goulash and putting cheese on

we don’t know what it was but it tasted

good because cheese was on it

and and the and the idea that this was

not necessarily the specific thing i

don’t think you could correct me that

you had in mind

it was just that we would love god

love each other

and be faithful

so i think the next right thing is look

at where you are

and what i was saying to my daughter

today is often we’re looking at the big

thing and thinking how do we get through

the big thing

uh moses asked god the same question

when god stopped by the burning bush and

said all right so it’s time i need you

to tell pharaoh to let my people go

and moses was like how am i going to do

that

and god said what do you have in your

hand

so we’re often looking purpose and

calling and what am i supposed to do and

how’s god going to get me through this

and we walked with mommy through that

season one day at a time

getting her what she wanted to drink

trying to make her comfortable

being there for each other

and so the next right thing is not the

next right big thing

it’s usually the next right small thing

and because it’s the next right small

thing it’s usually something that’s

obvious to you to do right and it’s easy

it’s right there

so i think if i could say anything to

encourage everybody from my experience

it’s

stop trying to get over the mountain

and just make sure you don’t stumble on

that one rock that’s in front of you and

just keep going forward that’s great

that’s amazing yeah that’s amazing

you’re a beast she is i was actually

about to say that and i thought maybe i

shouldn’t say you’re a beast that’s a

good thing that’s a love a beast is a

good that’s a loving word in our family

um

somehow some had a lot of loving word in

our family and yes for those of you

watching who are thinking are they

saying daddy and mommy of we still call

our parents daddy daddy just so you know

that’s

i’m that’s yeah i’m proud of that yes

the daddy you mentioned daddy you

mentioned

disruption

i i always get weird when i’m quoting

you because you’re tony evans and i’m

tony evans jr and it feels weird because

you’re such an amazing communicator

because you’re such a beast

divine reset a lot of times i mean sorry

divine disruption disruptions in our

life are god’s um

god is wanting to reset us and uses the

disruption do that can you talk about

what that that means

god creates or allows confusion

trouble

because he’s trying to

get things that

are either out of order back in order or

to take us to a new level hebrews

chapter 12

talks about god shaking things

in the physical because he wants to do

something in the spiritual

so when there is disturbance in the five

senses of our lives

in the environment of our lives and the

chaos of the culture

it is because he is shaking things to

remake something

in its proper order things have gotten

either out of order or there is a new

purpose that he is moving to

and so he will he will allow pharaoh to

get tougher

so that you can leave egypt

and not get comfortable there so he will

create so i i just want to encourage

people if you’re going through

pain struggle grief disappointment

while those feelings are real and you

don’t deny them

also ask god what new thing

what new experience i love job 42 he’s

come through great loss

i mean in 24 hours this whole world

falls apart his business his family his

workers his children his health

everything falls apart and he never even

found out why the book never tells job

about the conversation between god and

satan but in chapter 42 he makes a

powerful statement he says

i’ve heard about you with the hearing of

the ear

i’ve been to bible study been the church

been the small group all that been to

sunday school

but now i have seen you with my own eyes

so ask god when your world falls apart

to make himself visible to you in a new

way and he wants to do it

because of what he allowed to disrupt

your ease

and your comfortable situation right

then

can we can we just go around and i would

love to hear and i don’t i’ve never

asked this either in what way

specifically and as it relates to each

of you has this disruption

reset you like what is a re what is

something that has been reset and i’ll

just say for me

um

the the the purpose behind what i do has

changed drastically

it’s changed drastically um the most

important thing to me has always been

family but now that’s on some other

level

uh the most one of the second things has

been ministry but now it’s it’s very

purposeful and intentional and

if i’m going to

miss something family-wise to do

ministry i won’t do that anymore like

that that is something that reset in me

and

it’s

helped open my eyes to what i

really have and appreciating that and

not the rat race of trying to get more

and and be more and be you know the the

bigger thing um what what about

what about you um

i would say

you all know i love kanika yes

um which is my wife yeah

um

but you know she’ll tell you i don’t

even i don’t know if it’s the way that

i’ve grieved

uh

but she’ll tell you i mean my

appreciation for her tangibly has

skyrocketed

because she’s living our mother’s life

basically another version of the same

basically and um

one of the things that broke my heart

for daddy

is the plans that he had for him and

mommy at 70. yeah

is he talked about having these plans to

travel do you know kind of tone down in

the ministry and ramp up with just him

and mommy just kind of riding off into

the sunset type of idea

and when mommy died at 70

that just spoke volumes to me about time

and people

and treasures

and plans

and just life

and so with my

wife and children um

i i don’t really live on a i’ll do it

later mentality

i live on i’m gonna do it right now

mentality and not take any of that for

granted yeah

i would agree i think that’s it’s along

the same lines that mom said to us

incessantly mom said to us y’all need to

stop and smell the roses that’s what she

would say that was her

sort of encouragement to us and

challenge to us

um mom did that very intentionally she

enjoyed her life she would intentionally

tack on extra time to ministry trips for

the two of you to enjoy each other

sometimes we didn’t know where she was

at we didn’t know where she was at she’s

on a cruise yeah

yeah the dallas theological seminary

would take these ministry cruises and

she would just hop on and enjoy seeing

the world and also the foot the

footsteps of paul or whatever

and so she did that very intentionally

and i remember her saying you know if

she could go back and do her life again

she would have started that mindset

sooner that even as you’re going

throughout raising kids and working and

whatever she would have stopped to smell

the roses sooner enjoy your life

and so you all did that you know she was

always posting pictures hashtagging it

two peas in a pod the two of you

enjoying your life together and so

that’s kind of stuck with me what do i

need to do even as we are continuing in

ministry and raising our boys and all of

that but how can we just pause

and intentionally just enjoy the ride

and there’s nothing non-spiritual about

that exactly people yeah people think

exhaustion is a badge of honor like

they’re just especially working in those

christian sometimes yeah no but

ecclesiastes is clear he’s like enjoy

your life it’s all vanity you know it’s

just like

you know and so that’s a part of the

christian living that we often toss to

the side for christian living that’s

right you can be diligent and faithful

and consistent and all those things and

still

have rest have a sense of sabbath about

your life and enjoy the ride

crystal yeah i think um what i’ve heard

over and over again

um

and i said this too at her funeral too

it’s just

mommy was very good about intentionally

seeing people because she was

decisively

moving slower

she took time to remember things to talk

to people so i think

in the spirit of being intentional and

slowing down

both from my family to just

making time to make sure that the people

around me not just that i have time to

enjoy my life which is a part of that

but also having the bandwidth working on

that to have the bandwidth to be present

for

you know the people that god brings

across my path that i don’t expect or i

wasn’t planning on that day

to make room for that too yeah you know

speaking about

mommy always just gets me i just i feel

her all the time just the the

just the love of our mother and i

remember

i think it was me and priscilla were

standing over her bed we were all in and

out of the house so much in those

period but in the last few months we

were just all there and

our mother’s concern was

for

you like our mother’s concern was what

about the people who are praying like

she when she felt like her health was

going a different direction she was like

but all these people are praying what

about the people who are about their

faith what about their faith what about

their faith what are they gonna like

she was concerned about you and that’s

what i said tears about that worried

that the body of christ would would

stumble in their faith potentially if

the lord didn’t answer prayers

because so many people were praying that

way and as i sit here

i’m very like man

this is a message from our mom for you

yeah of what it looks like to hold on to

faith it wasn’t

when she when when i just think about

her saying what about those people

well mom we are here to talk to those

people

the people you were so worried about the

people who wanted to make sure were okay

we’re here to share what it looks like

to hold on to faith and it hurts and it

doesn’t feel good

but there is something to be said about

hurting

but knowing that you’re anchored at the

same time

and that is what it is and i know that

crystal mentioned that everybody may not

have a family like this

but you

you get to start you get to start that

story

you have you have a choice to start that

story you have a choice to have chosen

family around you which sometimes in

some cases it’s like this is my family

but i just i love that we are sitting

here

and i just see her tears and what about

them and we are getting to address those

people yeah that’s right

on behalf of our mom who wants you to

hold on to faith

when life is breaking your heart

um

and in just a few minutes we’re gonna

we’re gonna close we’re so grateful that

we got to spend this time and daddy you

kind of already did it

but

just i want you one more time because

you have so much to say this is one of

the

the he has a well of knowledge like a

deep i’ve never even seen the bottom of

that well i don’t know where it is you

know

but

can you look into that camera

and just give

just give the viewers just one more what

does it look like

what do they need to do for a heart

that’s breaking i know that there’s

somebody there’s a bunch of people on

the other side of this screen with tears

running down their face

please look at them and talk to them

about what else they could do to hold

onto faith in this moment

well one of the things your mom said

as she was getting sick and sicker

she said don’t let my illness

deter you

from god’s word

and proclaiming it

what

she was telling me was

hold on to god’s word and his truth

in spite of the circumstances

that you see us going through

so i just want to challenge

everybody

who’s struggling who’s hurting

who’s going through difficult times

you tether yourself to god’s word you

memorize it you quote it you think about

it you have people telling it to you his

promises his encouragement you

you read you read that upper room

discourse where he’s encouraging his

disciples on his way to the cross

because he kept giving them hope

the holy spirit if you’ve accepted

christ into your life the holy spirit is

there and he’s called the comforter he’s

the paraclete he is the one

who helps you to make it through

during tough times

so allow the holy spirit by requesting

it that you don’t have to go through all

commotions you say lord god holy spirit

because he’s the one that jesus left

here

to represent him inside your heart holy

spirit comfort me because you are the

comforter

encourage me by the word the word is the

truth the holy spirit is the experience

of the truth so he takes the truth of

god and makes it light up in your soul

so ask him to light your soul up to dry

your eyes to comfort your heart to

settle your fears

and he will do it because you’ve come to

the lord through his method based on his

word to get it done

that may not mean your circumstance will

change today or tomorrow

but it means that you will change in

your circumstance and when you change

you’re managing what used to be managing

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